The Linc - Michael Vick, Stacy Andrews, & why the country dislikes the Cowboys
by JasonB on Nov 24, 2009 3:00 PM EST
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As it stands today, the whole thing has not been worth the aggravation. But there is time, and there has been a glimmer. For about the last 5 years, these have been the weeks when the Eagles as a team have defined themselves. It is the same thing with Michael Vick. Now, we'll see. *
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I guess the question is
Is Stacy’s injury the reason why he’s not getting time or is he just not playing up to par?
What a disaster the Andrew’s brothers have been to us. My guess is with all of Stacy’s guarantees they’re going to let him play next year. Shawn is definitely going to making rap music elsewhere and not on our dime next year.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
Stacy doesn’t really have any guarantees until next year. He has a $4.1 million roster bonus due next year. So he could be cut with no dead money.
I think they will keep him around though. They had to assume the first year would be a struggle after he had knee surgery earlier this year.
Interesting
I didn’t know that. What’s great about Justice is if he turns out to be a high performer week in week out we got him super damn cheap.
That was a great move on the FO’s part to basically sign him for nothing for the first year (stacy).
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
I wouldn't put it past the Eagles to draft O-line in one of the first two rounds in 2010, making Stacy Andrews expendable
I think the Eagles may be a bit tired of all offensive linemen from the Andrews family after this season.
Sometimes it's just fun to take the family for a spin around the lake in the old boat. Even if it's not your family or your boat, and they're screaming for you to stop.
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Nov 24, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Oh and Vick
I was saying it by pre season that he probably wouldn’t give us much at all until much later in the year. I didn’t think it would be week 12 until he could get a chance for some big plays.. I mean what do you guys really expect when he runs the option play? 40 yard gains? If he gets his mental game back he could’ve had another nice place to Celek. He’s just been out of the NFL so long, going to take awhile. I still doubt his legs are back too.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
Funny thing...
about Vick’s longest run of the year this week is you could tell he doesn’t have the jets he once did. If he did it’s a TD.
Is he still getting his legs back or are they gone for good?
I still say he’s a waste of time.
The road to victory!
I thought the same thing about Vick's run
The Michael Vick of old would have had the speed to turn that into a TD. It seems like he’s lost a step.
Let me throw this out to the board, do you think Vick would be more effective if he was given a full drive to run a package of plays for a full series? Maybe go hurry-up early in the second quarter with that package to throw off the defense a little? I don’t think it’s really fair to judge what he can really do off of one play a game. It also seems like the one play a game kills any continuity with McNabb and Vick shuffling in and out.
As for Rich Hoffman’s article, I think the league played some role in getting Vick to come to the Eagles. It wasn’t the whole factor, but one of several. The league combined with Reid having envisioned using Vick to make the offense more effective in short yardage situations and then trading him at the end of the season to get a pick.
Sometimes it's just fun to take the family for a spin around the lake in the old boat. Even if it's not your family or your boat, and they're screaming for you to stop.
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Nov 24, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
wtf
I guess I hate cowboys fans as much as you do, even though i’ve never met one but….
I have no connection to the city of Philadelphia or the state of pennsylvania
I don’t go to The Linc every homegame, seldom I sit at a bar with a few other fans watching random games in my eagles jersey
Instead, I have fun, sitting at my apartment (like 4000 miles away) watching the eagles
Actually, i don’t even think i know any other eagles fans other than myself
If I’m lucky, one of the morning papers has a small paragraph about an eagles game
(thank god for the internet, and in particular BGN)
I became a fan due to freakin Madden ’01 for christ sake
Am I a bandwagoner, Jason?
If you say so i’ll kill you
by bleedinggreeninDK on Nov 24, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
You've never met a Cowboys fan?
I find that incredibly hard to believe. Those bastards are everywhere. I have lived all over the country and have never gotten away from them. Where is this utopia free from Cowboys fans? I want to go to there.
haha I never met a Cowboy fan either, a REAL cowboy fan I should say. I met plenty of douche bags in romo and aikmen jerseys in pennsylvania though, but they arent real
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by midnitegreen on Nov 24, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
I guess we’d have to find a 9 year old Dallas fan from nj and ask them.
Where exactly are you from btw?
by JasonB on Nov 24, 2009 11:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Me? Currently live in Northeastern PA myself. Grew up in Dallas till I was about 12 or so. Call me a bandwagoner if you want, but hell, I own a damn Quincy Carter jersey…I KNOW I’m a real fan.
But honestly, even if you started following Dallas in the 90s(or any team when they were successful), and still follow them today, then you honestly aren’t a bandwagon fan. Bandwagon fans jump from team to team based on their success. All the random groups of Steelers fans popping up all over the country in the last two years prove this.
If anything, I consider myself more a pessimistic Dallas fan. Went down to the Redskins game this last weekend and I was furious listening to all of the other Cowboy fans who really don’t know anything about football, such as going for it on 4th and 1 from their own 30 with over a quarter left. Maybe it’s the whole PA attitude towards sports teams.
And honestly, I vaguely remember the Super Bowls from the 90s for Dallas anyway. The Bills ones I was only 5 and 6 years old, and the Steelers one is a somewhat more clear, but my memories of the Cowboys growing up are the constant changing of coaches, 5-11 seasons, and a multitude of QB’s. So yeah…
It’s about the motivation far more than the geography. Cowboy fans all around the country became cowboy fans for the same reason.
It’s a unique phenomena with Dallas fans.
by JasonB on Nov 24, 2009 11:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I would like to make the same point as bleedinggreenDK
I live also outside the States and I have no relation to the great city of Philadelphia. I became an Eagles fan in most rediculous way you can ever imagine. But I believe that it was destiny. I’ve been Eagles fan for the past 4 years and Im proud of it. So when I get really emotional while watching games, when I read and write posts her about Eagles, when I stay up to 2.20 am(because of the time difference) at the night and stay up through the whole night watching my Eagles and go to school afterwards, I consider myself a true Eagles fan as any of you guys do.
Besides Jason your point isnt clear at all in your article. It seems that you just make a conclusion by saying that to be a fan of a team one has to have some kind of relation to the area where that particular team belongs and if one doesnt, but still a fan of the team, he is a bandwaggoner. As you guessed I strongly disagree with that point.
Rather skewed view on fandom
So, what I gather from this blog post is that somehow, some fans are more ‘real’ than other fans.
If going to a stadium to watch a game is what qualifies you for being a ‘real’ fan, then I guess I am not a real fan of any team.
I loathe crowds, hate standing in lines and refuse to pay the ridiculous prices for drinks at stadiums.
When the Cowboys had their run in the 90’s, I didn’t attend a single parade.
But come game time, the Sunday Ticket is on the big screen, the house is full of friends and fun, and it’s game on.
and ‘that guy’ can be rooting for any team.
I don’t care for any bandwagon fan, which every team has.
You just don’t like the Cowboys, so that is all you choose to see.
I imagine if the Eagles had played on Thanksgiving every year, they would have more fans across the country. The Cowboys have a far larger geographic area in which they are pretty much the sole pro team.
The next closest team to the west is Arizona, and to the east you have the Saints, north to the Chiefs.
and really, everyone hates the Cowboys? Seems this poll says otherwise.
I am sure every Eagles (and other NFC East teams) fan does, but, that is a small, small segment of the country.
Then again, generalizations such as this are what I expect from a fan base that has the reputation that the Eagles fans do.
that which doesn't kill you, probably hurts like hell.
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