Andy Reid addresses Brian Westbrook's concussion
by JasonB on Nov 16, 2009 12:55 PM EST
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Unfortunately, Andy didn't have much to say...
"We’re going to do everything the right way, and take every precautionary measure to make sure Brian’s OK," Reid told reporters. "In these types of situations, football is secondary. You have to look out for this kid for his future and make sure he is OK before he gets back out there."
Jeff McClane from the Inky noted the play where Westbrook was hit.
Reid said it's "too early" to decide if Westbrook is done for the season. He suffered the blow in the third quarter on a screen play in which he was sandwiched in between a block by Jason Avant and a Chargers defender.
Both Andy Reid & Donovan McNabb stressed that in these situations football in secondary. Head injuries are very serious and obviously their chief concern isn't whether Westbrook can play again this year, it's whether his future health could be affected.
So what's your gut feeling on the situation?
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I voted his career is over but..
Maybe not in the NFL? I think he’s done as an Eagle, as much as I don’t want to admit that. He brought us a lot of great plays over the years and was always a class act.
I hope I’m wrong and he comes back next year but that’s just my gut feeling.
Sadly, I hope that's the case
He has juice left in the tank, sure, but he needs to think about his future health. It would be bitter sweet to see him retire: bitter because he’s gone, but sweet because at least he has a chance at avoiding severe problems down the road.
I'd have preferred the 2nd option to read:
Miss the rest of this season and TRY to come back next year.
‘Cause I think that’s how it’s going to play out. Two concussions in three weeks screams IR. Bring Eckle back (I think he’s still available but I could be wrong) because he knows the pass protection and make Shady the featured RB. Weaver gets more carries in a 2 TE set.
The monster at the end of this blog.
I really hate to say it, but I just can’t see Westbrook coming back next year. It’s very likely he’s going to spend the rest of the year on IR and decide to retire at the end of this season. Honestly, I can’t blame the guy. Concussions are a scary thing and it’s not worth risking his mental health just to play another year or two.
Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever.
Westy's a warriors warrior!
No way his career is over! Folks need to calm down.
Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???
were hoping for his sake
tat he DOESNT go the warriors road…look at bledsoe…THAT did NOT end pretty
f@#K DEM COWBOYZ.....F#%K EM!
by northern eagle on Nov 16, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Of course he is a warrior.
No one is doubting that. But a concussion is WAY WAY WAY more serious than any other injury he has ever sustained. Broken bones, torn ligaments, yeah they hurt and they physically disable you but the effects of multiple concussions can really cause permanent brain damage that could debilitate him for life.
Judging from the market for RBs I’d say that even if he did try to come back next year I’m not sure a running back with a massive history of injury plus concussion worries would be able to get a job.
I hope he just retires instead of harming himself further. The sort of contract he would get just isn’t worth the risk.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
I'm with the other guys.
I have no doubt he’s a warrior, I just hope he doesn’t let that cloud his judgement. He should hang it up. Multiple concussions are nothing to mess with. He has decades of life left to live and it’s not worth risking that to come back.
The idea that a tough guy plays through injuries or doesn’t worry about them is extremely disturbing when the injury being discussed involves head trauma (most football collisions carry the impact of a car crash, so realize I’m not trying to overstating the severity). As stated above, everything else either heals or can be surgically repaired to an extent (all injuries become more susceptible to recurrence, even with surgical repair), the brain is different. Every brain injury can build up plaques and other damage which reduce function. Those can’t be repaired and lead to later life problems with depression, headaches, memory loss, social problems (many subjects with frontal lobe damage lose the ability to comprehend sarcasm, as this skill involves very high function of determining voice tone, context, facial expressions, etc.), diminished cognitive function, etc.
This is so unfortunate
But before this second concussion happened, I was already questioning Westy and his future. I definitely see him on IR for the rest of the season. I think we are gonna be good with RB so we could possibly pick up some more depth elsewhere. I really hope he understand how serious this is and decides to retire. I don’t see him giving up yet though. Players that love the game don’t want to just throw in the towel. I see him trying to come back unless a doctor or his family tell him otherwise.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
I don’t see him giving up yet though. Players that love the game don’t want to just throw in the towel. I see him trying to come back unless a doctor or his family tell him otherwise.
I completely agree with Eaglsgrl. Well said lady.
Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???
i just hope
that if there is good certainty that he is out for the year they place on IR this week. Get someone else in here… rather than the way we handled the situation with Shawn Andrews last year
Dont Disrespect the Level
We already have PJ Hill, and with McCoy, Buckley and Weaver I’m good with our RB situation.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
yeah but we need depth in other areas, especially with all our injuries. It’d be nice to get this done quick so we can get someone else in here and caught up so they can help us with the rest of our games.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
Larry Johnson
not sure if he inked a deal yet with Cincy, but i feel like hed make a good one two punch with Shady. I know, I know, hes a dick, but at this point in the season i think its crucial to get someone with potential like his on the field. I think Edge is also a free agent maybe? not sure
In 20 We Trust
Agreed. On a 1 year contract, how many problems could he cause. Only thing is, hed have to learn the offense, so I dont think hed make too much of a difference anyway.
ITS SHADYS TIME TO SHINE!!!
by philiafan14364 on Nov 16, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
He will be back for the playoffs...
Westy gonna go out strong. I’m not ready to move on from 36 yet. I hope to see him healthy after 2 months off. Will be prayin’ for ya.
World Series- check
NBA Title- check
Stanley Cup- check
Superbowl- In progress...
by Route36 on Nov 16, 2009 3:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
His career is over.
Even if Westbrook sits this year out and tries to come back next year, I think he will be too rusty and a year older on top of it. By then, we will most likely have McCoy (or whoever) firmly entrenched in the starter role.
My point is, even if his career isn’t “officially” over, it’s over in effect because of the circumstances. He’ll be 31 by the start of next season, he’ll probably have a lot of catching up to do in the physical sense, he’s very injury prone in general, and there are young bodies on the roster that will eventually diminish his role completely.
Once again, I might sound blasphemous right now, but I am being as realistic as possible. I love Westbrook and wish nothing but the best for him.
"THIS IS NOT COLLEGE NO MORE. THIS IS THE BIG MAN SPORT." ~Crazy Lady on BGN forums
My point is, even if his career isn’t "officially" over, it’s over in effect because of the circumstances
I think the circumstances are specifically why it is over. The concussions are bad news, but its that mixed with his age, mixed with the fact that we seem to have an adequate heir apparent waiting in the wings.
I’m not saying McCoy is Westbrook, but as little as we run the ball anyway, combined with the fact that we have Weaver, I think we’ll be fine… and i think the Eagles would cut next year anyway
Dont Disrespect the Level
Westy is a free agent next year. He can’t be cut.
World Series- check
NBA Title- check
Stanley Cup- check
Superbowl- In progress...
by Route36 on Nov 16, 2009 5:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
NO
he’s got one more year left I think. I’m pretty sure they signed him to that extension last year and then declined the option, leaving him with just two years remaining. please inform me if I have that wrong.
My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.
by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Nov 16, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure Westbrook signed a 6 year deal in 2008 meaning he’s signed through 2013. Another Link here
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
He’s a free agent after this year or next, not sure which. The deal was 6 years but there were a few options I believe which we had to decide to accept or decline during this year that we chose to decline, sending him into free agency much sooner than 2013. The Eagles front office, while often frustrating, does generally know what they are doing. They weren’t going to pay a RB a lot of money into his mid-30s, especially an injury prone RB.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Well if we are going on his original contract he won’t be a free agent until 2011.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
didn't we decline his option for next year or something
Let's get it Birds.
by homestar2281 on Nov 17, 2009 3:14 AM EST up reply actions
I was wrong...
Westbrook’s contract ends after the 2010 season. They did a revision to that 6 year deal you were talking about.. He is a free agent after next season. In that case, I would shelf him for the year and have him finish his career next season here in Philly. First Dawkins, and next year its Donovan’s and Westy’s time unless Mcnabb leads us to an unlikely Superbowl win this year.
It’s almost the end of a fantastic era…(sniffles)
:(
World Series- check
NBA Title- check
Stanley Cup- check
Superbowl- In progress...
Please Answer
because no one has mentioned it that I’ve read, but how many concussions has Westbrook had in his life? he’s had two in a short time so obviously that’s bad, but if these are his first two then I’m calling it now —> Westbrook as Comeback Player of the Year next year.
Furthermore if these are his first two then I will hold out hope for a playoff return if we make it.
My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.
by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Nov 16, 2009 5:56 PM EST reply actions
It doesn’t matter how many concussions he’s had in his life, he’s had 2 in 3 weeks. That is A LOT when you are talking about a brain injury, just one can leave permanent damage.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
K good
if that’s true then I’m no longer calling it a career. it’s not A LOT as u say, when talking about football players. People walking the streets have had two concussions, I say take more time away and try again, if he gets a third then its “shutdown time” but people are acting like concussions leave you brain-dead. IF that happens it is often with people who have incurred greater than 7 incidents, but two/three concussions are usually not linked to any very bad damage unless the concussions are severe. Apparently the first Westy concussion WAS pretty severe so maybe now that changes everything, but I’ve never heard of a guy hanging them up over two concussions.
My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.
by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Nov 16, 2009 6:28 PM EST reply actions
Concussions alone, probably not the end of his career. Concussions + his other injury history + his age make it seem unlikely he would be able to get another job. Running backs fall hard in the NFL.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Exactly.
"THIS IS NOT COLLEGE NO MORE. THIS IS THE BIG MAN SPORT." ~Crazy Lady on BGN forums
by southjersey89 on Nov 16, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
I guarantee I know far more about head trauma than you and one concussion, if severe enough can ruin someone’s life. Do you have a study showing greater than 7 incidents, or did you just make that up? Number of concussions is no where near as important as severity of the concussions and later score on WAIS-III, MMSE and GDP (along with other testing depending upon MRI/Active MRI results).
Fair point, but he had neurosurgeons looking at his MRI from the last one and they determined it was ok for him to play within two weeks. That would lead me to believe it wasn’t that severe.
Unless it was an active MRI, my guess is they were likely performing cognitive tests and reviewing self reported signs and symptoms. Either way determining severity of head injury may be as much an art as a science. If Westbrook doesn’t mention headaches, blurred vision, insomnia or other signs, he can get cleared to play when he shouldn’t. The MRI can only show so much.
1 and 2
He’ll be back next year but he’s essentially done for… he won’t last very long
"A picture may be worth a thousand words, but a word from Harry Kalas painted a thousand pictures."
-Doug Glanville
Moving on
It really sucks that this has to happen to such a quality player. But, a few weeks ago before all of his injuries there were a lot of discussions about the birds not picking up his option after this season because of his knee and ankle injuries. He’s become a liability. Mccoy looks really good so far. He’s not timid when hitting the hole like Westys become. I hate to see him go but the team is changing. In 2002 the birds were the youngest team in the league so having a lot of younger players isn’t such a bad thing. Reid may being making some odd decisions, but I think there is some sort of plan that we don’t know about.
I'll be praying for him
This has been one of those seasons. It’s astonishing…to lose so many players (and the greatest D Coordinator ever).
Our Eagles will be a completely new team next season.
Pain is just weekness leaving the body, or in this case head.
You can't soar with the Eagles when you're surrounded by turkeys.
by Aeries god of soar on Nov 18, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions
I’m shure that seeing blurry is just as bad as when I stabbed my eye with a pencil.
You can't soar with the Eagles when you're surrounded by turkeys.
by Aeries god of soar on Nov 18, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions
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