The future may be now at RB...
All reports are saying that Westbrook has suffered a concussion. This is bad news alone but take into account that he suffered one 2 weeks ago and you get a crap load of problems. Any time you have a brain injury you need to be worried. Normally people come back from a concussion a few weeks later but some very minor damage may be permanent. Now that Westbrook has suffered a 2nd concussion in 3 weeks that leads me to worry if (1) he wasn't ready to return and somehow managed to get back on the field like any athlete would or (2) his first concussion was alot worse than everyone thought and this 2nd one just made it alot worse. And another thing about concussions is that once you have had one you are more susceptible to having another one...
Now that it may be a possibility that Westbrook will be out for an extended amount of time(or even the rest of the season as Matt Mosley of espn.com thinks... here is the link.) we need to look at the RB situation we have minus Westbrook..
First up is LeSean McCoy(pictured below)

McCoy has been doing pretty well so far this season with a limited role. He has 353 rushing yards on 86 carries with an average of 4.1 YPC and 2TD's. He also has another 181 yards on 23 rec, with a 7.9 average. Those are some pretty solid numbers for a pass happy team while playing a small role. Now compare that to Westbrook's 225 rushing yards on 49 carries with only 1TD and an average of 4.8 yards, and his additional 156 rec yards on 19 catches and another TD. In pretty much half of the time McCoy has out done Westbrook. With McCoy getting better and better every day and those few glimpses of we see of Westbrook in him the future looks bright.
Leonard Weaver is next on this list even though he is a fullback. We all saw his ability during the Giants game and have really seen what he can do as a blocker throughout the season. Now all we need to do is see if he can play tailback a bit more than usual. I personally think that Weaver can play RB for us and would be a great compliment to McCoy as he grows. Weaver also helps out due to his ability to do pretty much what Westy can in the passing game, he can block, catch and bust big plays out of nowhere. Although he is a fullback he will see an increased role if Westbrook's out for a while.
Finally we get to Eldra Buckley. This kid showed some promise in the preseason as a RB. He is a between the tackles kinda guy and could be used in packages with Weaver to convert those pesky 3rd/4th and short situations. If I remember correctly He did excel in those 3rd and 1's during the preseason. He isn't anywhere near the level of McCoy, Westy and Weaver but he could really do well in a limited role that takes advantage of his abilities.
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ya know i really am NOT to worried about our RB stch
how ever I am REALLY worried bout Westy…hes one of my favorite players of all time….just hope hes ok …
f@#K DEM COWBOYZ.....F#%K EM!
by northern eagle on Nov 15, 2009 11:45 PM EST reply actions
don't forget about
P.J. Hill , we still have him on the roster after signing him off the saints practice squad. So he’s with the team for the rest of the season.
by hoya03 on Nov 15, 2009 11:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
ah, never heard of him
but he’s a long shot to get any playing time really.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
Poor 36.......
Hope he is Ok………We have got to do a better job @ running the ball whether its with buck, weaver, or shady……hopefully that will change as the oline gels and gets healthy………cuz obviously throwing for 450 yds and 2tds does not = victory.
Mentor!? I wouldn’t let that guy mentor one of those guys selling soft pretzels outside the stadium. Let alone a 2nd round pick. Yeesh
by andyreidswaistline on Nov 16, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
He's not joking
this is the second time he’s posted this drivel… I think he doesn’t know enough about LJ
My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.
by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Nov 16, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
maybe he is actually Larry Johnson trying to lobby for a job.
I would prefer to let Sadam Hussein himself mentor McCoy over Johnson.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Nov 16, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
We can insert many different villains into my post.
If not Hussein, we can go, Dr Evil, Magneto, Joker, etc. Any one but Larry.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Nov 16, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
To be honest I hope Westbrook is done for the year.
He is a valuable player to be sure, but there is no reason for taking the risks associated with multiple concussions. He has been so good to the Eagles I hope they do right by him and sit him down.
As for concern at RB, I’m not terribly worried. Or more to the point, I’m much more concerned about the line in front of the running-backs. Our pass protection has looked better, but run blocking still leaves a lot to be desired.
Of course I want Westy as a weapon on my team
but this is bigger than football. He’s only 30, and if this means retirement, God bless him…he deserves a full and healthy future.
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
i really want to see what pj hill can do.
get a little bit of thunder and lightning action.
"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China
thats news sucks about westy hes the shit..
if westy is a no go the rest of the season ..does anyone think Eldra Buckley will see any playing time ?
why dont the eagles use Leonard Weaver more in the red zone or for the tough short yard situations ?
R.I.P Jim Johnson 1941-2009
we will miss you Jim Johnson, thank you for everything you done to the eagles defense making them the best of the best, RIP JJ...
I imagine we will see a little bit more of Buckley.
he excelled in the 3rd and short type of situations during the preseason so I wouldnt mind seeing him in some sort of a jumbo goal-line/short yardage package.
and weaver will begin to be used alot more if westbrook is out.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
I don’t know why people are just talking about this season, Westbrook’s career may have ended yesterday. It might sound crazy, but multiple concussions are not to be taken lightly. They lead to serious neuropsych and depressive disorders, and Westbrook’s effectiveness on the field has diminished a lot anyway, so I wouldn’t be shocked if he calls it quits. I know there have been plenty of NFL players in the past to sustain more than 5 concussions, but those people now have serious mental health issues, and Westbrook’s 2 concussions were weeks apart, which is even worse.
Not trying to be negative or anything, just stating the realistic possibility. Love the guy as much as everyone else, but long term health should always be a priority.
"THIS IS NOT COLLEGE NO MORE. THIS IS THE BIG MAN SPORT." ~Crazy Lady on BGN forums
Totally agree.
I think he should seriously consider retiring. He has a lot of life left ahead of him. More concussions could make that life very hard down the road.
I just posted that same thought before I saw yours
I agree.
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
Yea. Westy’s a great player and i’m a huge fan of him as a player. I know our chances of winning are less without him, but we have to think of the well being and future of one of our greatest players.
by notfromphilly on Nov 16, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking his career could be over to be honest
but I didnt want to say something to that effect and have someone jump down my throat and try to rape me with there words over stating something like that so I just stuck with the “possibly done for the season” stuff.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
Westbrooks first concussion was serious. When you are black out for awhile, its obviously pretty serious. He shouldn’t of played. He should of sat out. I wouldn’t want him or anyone else left with permanent brain damage and decisions like that shouldn’t be left up to the trainer. He is not a neurologist. The last thing I want to see is BWest career over.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
I honestly think this is all she wrote for Westbrook. I remember after the first concussion I didn’t want him coming back to soon all I keep thinking about is Andre Waters … Post-Concussion syndrome is the real deal and no one should fuck with that
I don’t know how serious this is and I’m not a doctor but what I do know is it’s serious and should be treated that way. Now is not the time to be selfish.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
completely agree. As much as we all love Westy, I think that he should be out for the rest of the season… put him on IR. He needs time to come back from the concussion and maybe even his ankle and see what happens after that.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
yes I agree he should be at least shelved for the year.
2 concussions(serious ones at that) in 3 weeks is very very bad. If he were playing high school or college they wouldve immediately sat him for the year.
I had a concussion a few years back where everything was a blur, I had some bad shit that followed like forgetting math and people, I had to see a neurologist about it… And mine was only a grade 4 concussion and im guessing westy’s is a grade 2-3, but build that up in only 3 weeks and that could cause permenant damage.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
we need Westy
to give everything he knows to Shady. It looks like this is the end for our boy :.(
West must supply Shady with every little minute detail of his game, blocking, hitting the hole, taking what you can get if nothing is there, etc.
by birds'n'raiders on Nov 16, 2009 11:56 AM EST reply actions
fuck that
he should play .. mccoy cant carry the load .. and hes almost done anyways .. in two weeks he should be fine .. we dont even know how severe it is .. JVR had a concussion and played a week later .. its football .. i suspect ray lewis has had over 10 concussions and just never told anyone cuz he wants to play
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 16, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
JIBTA i figured even you would value the quality of another
human beings life… apparently not though.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
haha
dude hes not going to die … he will be fine
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 16, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
how do you know he isnt going to die...
When you have 2 concussions in 3 weeks thats dangerous as hell. If he play’s before he isnt 100% ready it could in fact kill him.
Also if he gets some of the bad shit many ex-football players get then his life becomes very very tough. I know he loves football at when it may kill you or seriously harm you to continue playing thats when you hang up the cleats and focus on your next profession and your family.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
when's the last time uve had 2 concussions in 3 weeks?
let alone where the first one knocked you unconscious. how can u sit there and write off such a injury to someone’s brain with all the studies going on because of the problems with former NFL players suffering multiple concussions, with some even dying.
i am a huge westbrook fan, always have been. yes he has lost a few steps and has had problems staying healthy but he has always given his all to this team and shouldered this team for multiple seasons. the last thing i want to see is watching an interview with westy in 10-20 years and seeing him ‘Muhammad Ali-ized’
you have to shut him down for the season. i dont know if NFL rules allow this, but IR him and keep him on the sidelines during practices and games and have him critiquing everything mccoy does and training him to shoulder the load for the season/foreseeable future. I would absolutely love to see him come back next season and try to light it up again, but if he cant go or decides to call it a career and never takes a snap again, i will support it. in the end, football is a game and paycheck. no one can play forever and injuries have and always will cut careers short.
take the choice out of his hands for the season and let him make up his own mind for the future. it is the least the team could do for leaning so hard on him for so many years now that his future standard of living is at risk.
RIP JJ & HK
Congrats NYY, it took you 9 years to buy a championship. I would love to see how that series would have went if Cole remembered how to pitch.
I hope your not aiming that comment at me,
Ive been saying exactly what you have.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
he wasn't
it’s lined up as a reply to JIBTA
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
dude
i think zach thomas has had multiple concussions .. ray lewis would just tape up his head and be good to go .. this concussion shit is getting a little bit to much attention .. its a contact sport .. should he have a week or 2 off .. yea thats fine .. but if u have to sit out a whole season thats some bs .. larry johnson would be out there the next week wanting 20 carries
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 16, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
It's not about wanting to play. Of course Westbrook wants to play.
It’s about being smart about future well-being. If you really think concussions are nothing to worry about than you are beyond help. This is serious business no matter what the “warrior mentality” is. We are talking about quality of life here.
yea yea
all im saying is ray lewis would be out there .. take it how ever u want to
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 17, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
and all I’m saying is Ray Lewis would be a vegetable and Westbrook is hopefully smarter than that. You are dead wrong here no question … dead wrong.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
haha
ray lewis is like a brussel sprout than .. cuz hes tough as hell
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 17, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
if ray cant have a coherent thought in 20 yrs
or stop his hand from shaking, im going to think of you. i have never really had a problem with you arguing a less than favorable thesis on here, you need disagreement to grow intellectually, but this shit is nonsense
we are talking about having irreversable damage to one’s brain that could cause drastic health problems in the future or even death, and somehow you are on the ‘fuck it, be a man and get urself killed’ side.
but look at me, who am i kidding, you have never been one to grow from debate, just stick to your guns and watch urself sink. what makes me think ull change now.
RIP JJ & HK
Just fucking win. (as said by LegendKnight22)
I wonder if JIBTA is aware that these football players are actually people.
They exist outside of the football field as well. And they don’t disappear like a Jedi when they retire.
my bad, i was reading to fast
and jumped the gun a bit.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
lol that made no sense but
somehow comforted me greatly…
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
i dont know why
but it has that effect lol
RIP JJ & HK
Just fucking win. (as said by LegendKnight22)
it was a reply to jibta
i think he is the only one who doesnt see the seriousness of westbrooks situation
ive had 2 documented concussions, probably 4 total, and i have problems ive noticed now because of them, and they were all at least 6 months apart and i never lost conciousness. my hand eye coordination is shot to hell, i have problems remembering words when speaking casually, and my memory is not what it used to be.
the thing that scares me is that im only 22. i hope its just me being a little paranoid but its a potential serious issue for me down the road.
RIP JJ & HK
Just fucking win. (as said by LegendKnight22)
yeah I had a very bad one and it took me 2 years to return to normal completely...
I forgot people in my own family and everything… Ive had 3 concussions so far and my doctors said 1 more even slight concussion and im done forever…. Playing football isnt worth ruining your life. If Ray Lewis is that dumb to go out there with a concussion then thats his problem and he will feel the effects of it in 5-10 years. Westbrook needs to pay attention to people who have had multiple Concussions..
Watch trent green.. I bet within the next 3-4 years we see the effects of his 3 or 4 concussions come into the light completely.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
sucks to hear about that man
best of luck in the future with it
and regarding trent green, watch him try to call a game or do pregame, ull sure as hell notice that he has got his bell rung a few too many times
RIP JJ & HK
Just fucking win. (as said by LegendKnight22)
nah I havent had one in 2 years
but they definantly mess you up pretty bad… When you look at the scope of life you realize football is just a game, its not worth ruining your future and forgetting you kids names/faces.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
yea yea
they are over reacting to concusiions no a days .. some are not even that bad .. u can suffer aconcussion and never even know
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 17, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
arguing against the seriousness of concussions
by making an incoherent attempt at a sentence is not the best way to sell ur point.
RIP JJ & HK
Just fucking win. (as said by LegendKnight22)
Not knowing you had one a concussion does not make it a less serious issue.
I’m guessing you’re not a doctor, so you’re hardly qualified to tell us how serious they are. Some people here have already said they have experience with concussions, so I’ll go ahead and take their experience over your random bullshit thoughts.
yea
thats fine .. im saying .. some players would play with it
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 19, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_disease
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemiballismus#Causes
If he wants to avoid these diseases (found to result from repeated traumatic brain injury), he might want to retire.
From what I read earlier, multiple traumatic brain injuries have also been linked to Alzheimer’s, depression, decreased cognitive ability and attention span, and it even increases the likelihood of another concussion down the road.
"THIS IS NOT COLLEGE NO MORE. THIS IS THE BIG MAN SPORT." ~Crazy Lady on BGN forums
by southjersey89 on Nov 16, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
the worst part of it all is that as you get older
as in your early 30’s your chances of getting a concussion’s increase significantly, add to that the fact that once you have had one your are more prone to another and you can pretty much put the trifecta together yourself.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
retire westy's number?
I think hes earned it!
f@#K DEM COWBOYZ.....F#%K EM!
by northern eagle on Nov 16, 2009 11:59 AM EST reply actions
Do they wait until the retire to do that? I was hoping they would do that for BDawk but I remember Lurie saying he wasn’t going to let anyone else wear it but didn’t say anything about retiring it? Either way, I would hope he would do that for both BDawk and Westy.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
hahaha
dude get out of here .. he hasnt earned that .. mcnabb gets 5 retired n thats it from these teams
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 16, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
maybe
dawk .. but im not a fan of retiring anyones number .. i think its a dumb idea
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 16, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Westbrook, dawk and mcnabb
get there #’s retired.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
nah
ill bet u anything westbrook doesnt .. he wasnt that good
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 16, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
Westbrook has done some pretty amazing stuff as an eagle...
he could very well make it. The point is that either way were both fighting a losing battle because the choice whether to elect Westy, McNabb or Dawk to the HOF is completely out of our hands.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
westbrook
hes a glorified dave megget .. the giants rb .. nice little player. . nothing spectacular
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 16, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
"Nice little player"
That’s a slap in the face of a great Eagle if I ever saw one. I’m so glad we root for the same team.
great?
how great was this guy .. is he even top 50 on rushing list?
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 17, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
You can't judge a player like Westbrook purely on rushing yards.
It totally negates over half of what makes him special. His receiving ability and, for a time, his punt return ability were incredibly valuable. He was one of the most feared RBs in the league because of his versatility. You don’t focus in and scheme defenses specifically for “nice little players”, but defensive coordinators schemed for Westbrook all the time because they knew he was likely to kill any team that didn’t. You can’t always fit players into neat little black and white boxes. Westbrook was always much more than simply a runningback, so judging him on rushing yards is a dishonest way to look at his career.
Nice little players
Jerious Norwood comes to mind…
Tim Hightower maybe…
but not Westbrook. He’s been our ENTIRE offense for at least 2 years…and our biggest weapon for about a decade. He’s not a ‘nice little player’…he’s an F-ing MONSTER!!!!
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
ok, lets do a little LJ, BWest comparison
LJ
75 games: 6015yds rushing (4.4 avg) 55 TDs and 15 fumbles
151 receptions for 1369 yds (9 .1 avg) 6TDs
Total yards and TDs: 7384 yds and 61TDs
BWest
105 games: 5946 yds rushing (4.6 avg), 37TDs, 3 fumbles
420 receptions for 3765 yds (9 avg) 29TDs, 5 fumbles
Total yards and TDs: 9711 yds and 66TDs
please note that 4292yds and 40 TDs of LJs total came in 2005 and 2006. Thats 58% of his total yards and 2/3rds of his TDS came in 32 games out of 75 (42% of his games)
Westbrook’s best 3 year span (06-08) is also 42% of his games, and he has 55% of his total yards then and 2/3rds of his TDs.
eerie how close those statistics are for someone who “looooves” LJ and thinks BWest is a nice little player
and also, no punt/kickoff return yards were used in this data
RIP JJ & HK
Just fucking win. (as said by LegendKnight22)
by BadCo'09 on Nov 17, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
thanks, it actually took like 20 mins to do all the math
RIP JJ & HK
Just fucking win. (as said by LegendKnight22)
yep... Westy is just
good I guess…. this is all bs…. Westbrook never did anything for the eagles… He’s bs too… You all should get out of here jackass’s..
<3
JIBTA.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
ok
like i said i doubt either get in .. if terrell davis isnt in than either of them dont get in .. but lj was a better rb than westrbok .. and better in his prime ..but neither are getting in
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 17, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znowCx_y7nU&feature=PlayList&p=281BC73CD64C7926&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=23
RIP JJ & HK
Just fucking win. (as said by LegendKnight22)
yeah
the only one I think any of us are arguing with is Jibta
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
even I though he would value the quality
of another human beings life…
But its not Jack, Jacobs or TO so he doesnt care.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
DAMN and
just about every other has-been in the nfl
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
********
mistake… add that beats women, has 500 kids, gets arrested once every offseason etc
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
cobb'd
i meant to say I may be premie
f@#K DEM COWBOYZ.....F#%K EM!
by northern eagle on Nov 16, 2009 12:06 PM EST reply actions

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