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More of the same: Philadelphia Eagles fall to San Diego Chargers 31-23

The Eagles had a lot working against them today with a crushing amount of injuries and a cross country trip, but in the end what we saw was more of the same. The offense was inconsistent early on and once again the team can't make a play to win a close game. The lack of a play I'm referring to is of course the inability of the defense to stop the Chargers and afford the offense with a real chance to get down the field for a score.

The injuries can't be discounted in this game however. When Sheldon Brown went down with an injury in the 3rd quarter, the Eagles with one member of their regular group of corners. They didn't have one linebacker playing their normal position, they were without their best offensive lineman, and of course Brian Westbrook was lost with yet another concussion. More on what that probably means later.

The offense led a comeback in the second half to get it close and the defense tightened up for a while... but in the end both were too little too late. The team doesn't lack heart and fought until the end, but I don't really think they had the bullets to win this fight.

I suppose if you want to take any solace from this game, Dallas lost and the Eagles lost no ground in the division. Right now, the NFC "beast"(LOL) isn't looking so great. Anyone could still make the postseason.

Headlines after the jump.

Star-divide

Westbrook probably done for the year

I don't have anything official, but I doubt the Eagles or the NFL or pretty much any doctor is going to allow Brian Westbrook to play against this year after suffering his second concussion in 4 weeks. I fully expect him to be shut down for the year, but I hope this isn't the end of his Eagles career. At this point, his future health is what's most important.

Career day for Avant

Avant hauled in 8 passes for 156 yards including one of the most impressive grabs you'll see all year. Facing double coverage on 3rd down he leapt up, bounced the ball off one hand, stayed with it, and ended up pulling off an impressive one handed catch before hitting the ground just beyond the first down marker.  Just a fantastic individual effort and an overall great day for #81.

It wasn't the loss of Peters, it was the loss of Herremans

For me, the worst part of the offense today by far was the interior of the offensive line. I'm not sure I saw them get a push once all day. This is where the loss of Jason Peters had a ripple effect. Todd Herremans did a sold job out at LT, but his absence on the inside was sorely missed. Stacy Andrews was in my opinion by far the worst of the bunch. You could give him the benefit of the doubt since he's less than a year removed from major knee surgery, but whatever the case he kills them out there. No series was it more evident than the first and goal when the Eagles ran up the gut two of the three times and the RB hit a wall each time. No push, no holes, no gain.

Speaking of lines...

The defensive line wasn't a whole lot better. There's no doubt that the decimation of the secondary and the LB corps to injury played a part in the Eagles weakness against the run, but it's also fair to say that Broderick Bunkley and Mike Patterson didn't have their best day. Normally those guys combine to be a pretty force against the run, but I noticed them getting moved around quite a bit today.

No rest for the weary

Next week, it's the Bears in Chicago in prime time.

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Hell of a career B-West. Hopefully he plays one more year but I doubt it.

by Gideon24 on Nov 15, 2009 7:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Amen

Much love Westbrook!

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Nov 15, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

More like NFC Least

And holy crap another LAME ass prime time game.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Nov 15, 2009 7:47 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed...

35-13 Patriots. Brady over 350 and at least 4 tds

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 15, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

how can you guys think pats/colts will be lame?

two good teams squaring off…. brady vs. manning…. so far it’s a good game, how can you think otherwise?

Eagles.

by #1EaglesFan on Nov 15, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Let me think...

Tom Brady facing a depleted Colts secondary. How do you think that will turn out?

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 15, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Good call...

how did it turn out? Pats lose.

by Chad Lewis on Nov 16, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

He wasn't far off of Brady's stateline

He just forgot that some dude name Peyton Manning plays for the Colts. And Belichick made the dumbest call in NFL history helps, too.

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.

by Imp on Nov 16, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Definitely one of the dumbest calls in NFL history...

I could see if it was at Indy’s 35 (too far for a FG, but too close for a punt) but not at their own 30 with more than 2 minutes left. I also got the team needing 35 points to win. Just like I got this weeks game score flipped. I had 31-23 Eagles. I’ve done it a few times before (Super Bowl XLI)

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 17, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

THe Beast may be down

but realistically, we could still get three teams into the playoffs. Probably depends on both you and the Giants beating the Falcons.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Nov 15, 2009 7:51 PM EST reply actions  

Well the saving grace is that the rest of the NFc stinks too. The Falcons aren’t as good as advertised. Neither are the Bears or the Packers…

It’s really wide open thanks to a lot of mediocrity. The Saints and Vikings are good. Beyond that, I don’t know.

by JasonB on Nov 15, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

Weapon X eats babies for breakfast.

by immynimmy on Nov 15, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

true...

yet..how much you wanna bet that neither the Vikings or Saints make the SB?

Who would? No idea…

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 15, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

well...

the saints have been playing funny the past few weeks, i wouldnt be suprised if they blew a game in the playoffs, and a farve collapse in Minnesota seems inevitable at this point

Weapon X eats babies for breakfast.

by immynimmy on Nov 15, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

that's what I'm saying!

I mean..we all know Brett Farve is the QB of the Vikings. What they are doing so far is cute and all…but its Brett Farve.

And the Saints are due.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 15, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you guys

Last year the Titans were 13-3 and the Giants got off to this awesome start and if the NFL used the BCS we would’ve watched those teams in the Super Bowl.

The Panthers were 12-4 and lookin beastly. And you know the whole deal with the 9-7 Cardinals and the 9-6-1 Eagles and the year the Steelers came from the 6 seed to win the SB.

It’s nice to be 9-0 now, and home field helps … but the name of the game is get into the playoffs, be playing well and be healthy then.

The Saints are looking awesome now, but not unbeatable. All it takes is some other good team to play a good game against them when it counts.

(That said, at this point, Saints-Vikings does seem more likely than an NFCCG involving the Eagles)

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Nov 15, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

well...

the saints have been playing funny the past few weeks, i wouldnt be suprised if they blew a game in the playoffs, and a farve collapse in Minnesota seems inevitable at this point

Weapon X eats babies for breakfast.

by immynimmy on Nov 15, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

HONESTLY

i think bwest needs to call it a career.

I love this guy, but it is not worth his mental health later in life.

Bwest, you were a hell of back, and we’ll always love you man

Dont Disrespect the Level

by 700 Level on Nov 15, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

I don’t wanna see him put his future on the line. Each successive concussion comes easier and easier, so he would be at more risk than he was coming into today.

by NOLACuse on Nov 15, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

yah

please retire…I want him to be coherent when he gets inducted into the Eagles Honor Roll, etc.

by eagleyosh on Nov 15, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I think McNabb is 0 and 7 in Sunday Night games. Lovey Smith will be MoNique and Beat the piss out of Fat Andy like he’s the white “Precious.”

by ghostofandrewatters on Nov 15, 2009 7:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

nope

WE WIN NEXT WEEK

PERIOD

Dont Disrespect the Level

by 700 Level on Nov 15, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

It's gonna be REAL Sloppy...

I like the score 17-3. McNabb has about 220 and a TD Pass and we get a pick 6 off Cutler.

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 15, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

It's gonna be REAL Sloppy...

I like the score 17-3. McNabb has about 220 and a TD Pass and we get a pick 6 off Cutler.

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 15, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell,

I don’t care if our only score is a fumble recovery by Antonio Dixon and we miss the extra point, and the final score is 6-0. As long as we win, I’m fine with it.

"Backs in the 'I'...First and 10...McNabb, play action. Is back again. He is looking..he is going deep. He wants DeSean Jackson..who HAS IT!!! HE HAS IT!!! AND STEPPED INTO THE ENDZONE!! He took it away from the defender!! He took it away from Dominique Rogers-Cromarte, and ran into the endzone!!"

by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Nov 15, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

same here...

to an extent. as long as donovan looks alright. i’m fine with the outcome, as long as its a win.

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 15, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I gotta say, I did not expect a “Precious” reference… Kind of out of left field.

Let the beasting begin.

by TransplantedFan on Nov 16, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Things that impressed me...

1. Avant: 8 catches 156 yds. nuff said. Feed him the ball, and make sure some of it is in the red zone. He plays bigger than he really is.
 
2. Patterson’s tackling: Granted his coverage was average, but he tackled well, or at least better than Asante.

3. Pass Blocking: We gave McNabb enough time, only gave up two sacks. The one should be pinned on McNabb.

4. McNabb: In all honesty, he didn’t do that bad just the Eagles didn’t know how to use him. 400 yds and 60+ comp. pct. You know he can run, Andy/Marty? We could have gotten at least one of the 3rd and 1’s on a bootleg.

Unimpressive:
1. The defense: You know you lost the game for us. 31 points is inexcusable.

2. Personnel decisions: In all honesty, the playcalling wasn’t that bad. It’s just we don’t know how to use guys. One of those 3rd and one’s McNabb could have ran for. The others should have been handoffs to Weaver or a block and release to Celek.

3. Run blocking: Herremans is not a tackle. We would have been better off moving Stacy to LT and putting Herremans at RG.

All I have to say is we played better in the 4th, but the Chargers played way better than us in the first 3. Hate to say it, but SD has a great shot at playing in February.

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 15, 2009 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

we're better off eating stacy's contract because he is a waste of money

by the way, eating the contract was a reference to the past its always sunny in Philadelphia episodes\

Weapon X eats babies for breakfast.

by immynimmy on Nov 15, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't watch the show...

so I don’t know what you mean by it. U probably mean cutting him.Should have given Max a chance. I’ve heard he’s probably the strongest O-Lineman we got.

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 15, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

They basically did

Almost none of his money is guaranteed until next year. They could cut him after this season and have to eat nothing.

I think they obviously always wanted to get a look at the knee before committing long term.

by JasonB on Nov 15, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Good money management on the Eagles...

here I thought he was signed to a 3 year deal. Thanks.
Have to eat nothing??? Freudian slip, maybe?

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 15, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

His deal is for 6 years if I remember right. It’s just not all guaranteed.

I’m totally sure how it’s structured after this year, but I do know that they have very little liability in the first year.

by JasonB on Nov 15, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Signed as a free agent for 6 years, $38,700,000 during the 2009 offseason. The deal included a 3M roster bonus in 2009, 500K worth of appearance bonuses (31,250 per game), a 4.1M roster bonus in 2010, a 500K workout bonus each year from 2009-2011, and a 250K workout bonus each year from 2012-2014.

There is ZERO dollars if cut…

http://www.eaglescap.com/Players/StacyAndrews.html

In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt

by Eaglesgrl5 on Nov 16, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

That freakin' deadbeat

They should rid themselves of all the Andrews family dead weight. Let them go make music together.

Reid is to O linemen as Brian Billick is to QBs. He talks a great game about how he was an OL and seems to have this reputation for building great OLs, but they all pretty much play like paper mache in the rain. Herremans is the only one who can hold his head up consistently.

MGD, McGlynn, Cole, Gibson, Dunlap…? Weak. The two jokers he drafted this past year? Come on, Reid.

by DLawrence on Nov 16, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Every time I see our line collapse I think “Thanks, Shawn Andrews!”

Big baby piece of crap crybaby loser! Grrr. His BS ruined our O-Line this year and maybe the best chance for McNabb to win a Superbowl ring as an Eagle.

by UnclaimedFright on Nov 16, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

good post

not sure about stacy but reid has burned a lot of picks for little return on the o-line… with the exception of herremans he’s gotten nothing but losers and an all pro nut job… Dunlap is a joke… MJG is dumb as an ox (not that brain power is a requisite for playing guard)… Cole is a good man but not very agile (back up at best)…McGlynn… Gibson… Faniku???? what the f***?… all in all reid’s drafting is terrible… not as bad as his clock management but very little to show for his picks…in the last few years how many really good players??? 3 or 4… too many busts… too many projects…

by Elmo the faithful fan on Nov 16, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Let them go make music together???

U mean let them get their Michael Phelps on together with Juqua and Todd.

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 17, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

i think the redskins will beat the cowboys next week

by eaglesinmd on Nov 15, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

well they beat the broncos (with an injured kyle orton)

but hey ANYTHING can happen….honestly

Weapon X eats babies for breakfast.

by immynimmy on Nov 15, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Orton was out after the first half, so they beat the Broncos lead by Simms.

"I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care. "

by midnitegreen on Nov 15, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Orton led them to 193 yards of offense

Simms 36.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Nov 15, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

That would make my day.

In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt

by Eaglesgrl5 on Nov 16, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope you’re right. But history tells me the Eagles lose their traditional Sunday Night game, and “bottom out,” fans call for McNabb and Fat Andy’s heads, they go deep in the playoffs and don’t make the Super Bowl. I fear Dallas will return to the show before we do.

by ghostofandrewatters on Nov 15, 2009 8:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I fear Dallas will return to the show before we do.

lets not get ahead of ourselve this year…it would take A LOT for the inverse to happen…the eagles collapse in the second half of the season and the cowboys resurge

Weapon X eats babies for breakfast.

by immynimmy on Nov 15, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I am calling for Fat Andy's head now.

"Right now Winston Justice is the guy...until that person gets back out there"

by EvilBanner on Nov 15, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

but to be fair, you’ve been calling for his head the past 10 or so years, right?

by eagleyosh on Nov 15, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

yup. ive never heard anyone say that ever. What an amazing intellectual breakthrough we have here

Dont Disrespect the Level

by 700 Level on Nov 16, 2009 8:07 AM EST up reply actions  

evil banner sets trends, he doesn’t follow.

by zerofischer on Nov 16, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

....ahem...Marty's head.

I am not a fan of the fatman’s in game coaching and lack of in game adjustments, but I think Andy should atleast stay and run the front office. We have a ton of talent, alot of which is hurt right now and it’s mainly because of our GM and front office that I know you hate. Fact of the matter is, that he doesn’t dial in the plays anymore.

How is Marty excused from this. It really wasn’t solely on the playcalling today as the chargers were letting us pick them apart through the air, but to abandon the run game again sooo early and the QB sneak for that matter is once again pathetic and just further demonstrates how we will Never win the big one if we can’t punch it in from the 1…pathetic! I’m really starting to shift alot of the playcalling blame on just Marty. He obviously has no faith in our line to convert a 3rd and 1, but he’s out there calling FB counters on the goal line rather then smash it right up the middle. And seriously…like the SD defense didn’t see the playaction on 2nd and goal coming from a mile away.

by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Nov 16, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

IM WITH U EVIL BANNER.......

All due respect 2 Andy he has brought us back to being a winning organization but i think weve gone as far as were gonna go under his regime. Time for a change……hint hint
JON FUKIN GRUDEN………MAKE IT HAPPEN LURIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Andy has just become way to predictable in wat hes gonna due, i use 2 consider him one of the better coaches at making adjustments and gameplanning but now its just awful.

by goldenbird09 on Nov 16, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Tough Loss

Defense didn’t get off of the play……..but with all of the injuries it is somewhat understandable……i really hope they can get healthy and gel and then we can see what we really are. I believe Dec is our month.

by CJ's Eagles on Nov 15, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

We’ve got to be really thankful for the Packers’ win today. If they had lost, we’d be screwed.

"Backs in the 'I'...First and 10...McNabb, play action. Is back again. He is looking..he is going deep. He wants DeSean Jackson..who HAS IT!!! HE HAS IT!!! AND STEPPED INTO THE ENDZONE!! He took it away from the defender!! He took it away from Dominique Rogers-Cromarte, and ran into the endzone!!"

by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Nov 15, 2009 8:23 PM EST reply actions  

I am not at a loss for words.

Fire Reid.

"Right now Winston Justice is the guy...until that person gets back out there"

by EvilBanner on Nov 15, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

marty calls the plays

andy should over ride him, but I’m for firing marty before we fire reid. When childress was here the offense worked much better.

by eagleyosh on Nov 15, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

with worse personnel

we might add.

That said, I’m starting to think it’s execution more than playcalling a lot of the time with this team. I watched something breaking down the Dallas loss where Maclin made some mistakes that made McNabb look bad. The short yardage calls this week didn’t seem really terrible, the execution did. And going for all the FGs, which is Andy and not Marty.

Anyway, it’s the same script as it always is. And I don’t see why the Eagles can’t follow that script, rally into the playoffs and disappoint us in January once more. :)

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Nov 15, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

When Childress left, I was hoping they’d go outside the organization for an OC.

by BrianS on Nov 15, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Well...

The ratio is skewed because they were down so much for most of the game.

by JasonB on Nov 15, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

RED ZONE! RED ZONE!! RED ZONE!!!

We had to know the offense would have to win this game. Our defense is currently a mess. Injuries have destroyed us. Thanks for the memories B-West! Loved watching you.

by Soren K on Nov 15, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

In the Fat Man’s defense, he did run early on… But the score got SO out of hand he had to throw…And I’m sorry, the past is the past. If we’re waiting for December to hit the switch, we’ll be sitting at home in January.

by ghostofandrewatters on Nov 15, 2009 9:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Agree

Yeah…we can’t give up so many early points and begin with zippo offense. Yes the offense scored later but in desperation time. When we needed it, they couldn’t convert red zone possessions into TDs.

by Soren K on Nov 15, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Injuries . . .

Yeah the Eagles have had a lot but so have other teams. Benson (Bengals) and Turner (Falcons) got hurt today with likely serious injuries. Boys’ start Colombo for the season with a broken leg.

Eagles are really banged up but they have to find a way to win these type of games and they haven’t done that this season.

by MG77 on Nov 15, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

did vincent jackson get shut down or what happened?

what’s up with Sheldon??

RIP Jim Johnson. You will truly be missed.

by Igglesfan13 on Nov 15, 2009 9:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

i thought the o-line played well for the most part. it seemed like mcnabb had pretty good time all day

by eaglesinmd on Nov 15, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

NFC opponents

Thought the Eagles shot at making the playoffs depended upon how they did in these 3 games:

Sun., Nov. 22 @ Chicago
Sun., Dec 6 @ Atlanta
Sun., Dec 20 vs. SF

All of these teams are likely to go be in the wildcard hunt (especially the Falcons) or at least stick around. It wouldn’t surprise me at if the Eagles’ chances of making the playoffs come down a tiebreak vs. one of these teams or their overall NFC conference record.

by MG77 on Nov 15, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

Rec'd

Dont Disrespect the Level

by 700 Level on Nov 16, 2009 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed! This loss really makes the Chicago game a must win.

Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???

by OkieEagle on Nov 16, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Jackson

Glad the Eagles realized today that Jackson is their single best weapon on offense and that they made a much more concerted effort to get him the ball today by having him run more shorter and intermediate routes. That was a much-needed and overdue change. Jackson has been running way too many deep routes this season into double coverage.

by MG77 on Nov 15, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions  

Raiders game

Is looming really large right now. At 6-3, the Eagles would be tied for 1st in the NFL and likely only need to go 4-3 in their final 7 to make the playoffs. Instead, there is a real possibility they will need go 5-2 down the stretch to ensure they make the playoffs and I am really dubious that this team can do that down the stretch with their schedule and injuries.

by MG77 on Nov 15, 2009 9:28 PM EST reply actions  

Absolutely agree.

I think they have to go 10-6.

But at the same time, they completely control their own fate. They’re one game back of Dallas with a game remaining against Dallas, and they’re 2-1 in the division with one game left against each team.

Failing to win the division title, they’ll need to be at least 5-2 against a bunch of teams that are in similar situations. Taken as a whole, it looks like a daunting task. Taken one by one, they all look like games the good Eagles can win.

If the evilEagles show up more than twice more though, they’re toast.

(I agree that the injuries are a very big problem right now and could be their undoing, but I thought the schedule was worse before I really looked at it)

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Nov 15, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I said elsewhere

if they hadn’t lost that Raiders game, we’d be about as happy as you could be with a team coming off consecutive losses.

vs. 9-0 Saints with no McNabb, vs. DAL and @SD aren’t losses that would ruin Super Bowl hopes.

The way they lost the past two might be more frustrating than the fact that they lost.

The real thing is they need to get some confidence and get healthy.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Nov 15, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Rivers

Impressed me today. Turner obviously designed a game plan to take advantage of the Eagles’ deficiencies in covering the TE and pounding the ball between the tackles with LT. Still, Rivers made throw after throw today and didn’t force anything downfield which he can be prone to do from time to time.

McNabb was pretty good today. Rivers was better.

by MG77 on Nov 15, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

WTF

man i just got off work so i missed the game…what went wrong? the stats says mcnabb throws 450 yards?

by jjrome on Nov 15, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

defense was awful. also had to kick 3 fg in the redzone

by eaglesinmd on Nov 15, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

oh ok so bad defense and we had redzone struggles?

by jjrome on Nov 15, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

the patriots are a good bet to beat the saints next week

by eaglesinmd on Nov 15, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

Morhinweg

He earned alot of credit here in 2006 when he essentially stepped in for Reid after the Indy game and went with a much more conventional mix of run/pass so effectively with Garcia.

Since then, this offense looks really good at the bottom line stats (yards and points) but they can’t do the small things well the past couple of years – score TDs in the red zone, convert on short-down situations, and run effectively (4.0 yards/carry) that a truly championship-caliber teams needs to do in order to win it all.

This year is much of the same and you can add the issue of 3rd down conversions. You can’t be in the bottom 1/3 of the league there and hope to mount enough long drives to score.

by MG77 on Nov 15, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

If the Eagles collapse

and finish 8-8 or less do the Eagles finally end the Reid/McNabb? I say yes and that there is a real possibility that this is not only Westbrook last year in an Eagles’ uniform but a real possibility you might be seeing the last 7 games in McNabb’s career as an Eagle (even though he hasn’t played that poorly this year).

by MG77 on Nov 15, 2009 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

I think Andy's would like a chance without McNabb

That’s why McNabb wasn’t really extended… those 2 have been tied together for so long.

by Smallbugger on Nov 15, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Eagles were in same boat last year

They were 5-5-1 and were then 15 minutes from a super bowl. The difference this year is that mcnabb is playing well and the offense is better. The difference also is the defense is struggling and I don’t see it getting much better so I think we’ll see alot more 400 yard games for mcnabb. And why not try vick in short yardage from the goalline. The eagles have this creative playcalling all the way down the field and then they telegraph everything. Anyway, regardless of how this season turns out this team is going to be fun to watch.

by phillynyc on Nov 15, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

I think having Vick on a run/pass option would be smart

Just let him drop back to pass and be a threat to run like he was in ATL.

by Smallbugger on Nov 15, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

McDermott's got some splainin' to do

Seriously the defense just totally blew it for us so many points allowed, shame I started the Eagles Defense this week and only got 2 points off them

by fhqwagads on Nov 15, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

Here's your explanation

Half their defense was injured. They were signing guys off the street to play corner.

by JasonB on Nov 15, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I understand that

I’ve been keeping up with the news but I atleast expected the front seven to stop LT but they didn’t even manage that dude!

by fhqwagads on Nov 15, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Well the front 7 was comprised of a LB corps with a rookie, Gocong out of position, and Witherspoon(who’s only been here a couple weeks) playing a position he hasn’t played for this team. The front 4 wasn’t very good, but today was a recipe for disaster against the run.

by JasonB on Nov 15, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

But still it’s LT and SPROLES man this is one of the worst rushing offenses in the league we shouldn’t be giving up a 100 yard rushing day to anyone in that backfield.

by fhqwagads on Nov 15, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, when “we” are what was on the field today I think it’s very likely that we would.

by JasonB on Nov 15, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesn’t make it suck any less… it just is what it is.

by JasonB on Nov 15, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah “should” being the keyword there…lol…

by fhqwagads on Nov 15, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Another thing that sort of pissed me off is they were totally unprepared for an injury they shouldn’t have sat Ikegwonu today when Sheldon went down I was like well what the hell are they going to do now.

by fhqwagads on Nov 15, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Well when you lose two players at one position in the same week… it’s not easy to be truly prepared.

I did find it odd that Jack wasn’t active though. I do agree with that.

by JasonB on Nov 15, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey do you know why Demps wasn’t active today I didn’t hear about that, I expected him to return kicks, I think Macho did a good job but we discovered his return talent a little too late in the game to save us : /

by fhqwagads on Nov 15, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

At the end of the game

The Blitz was just way too predictable… we didn’t over load or double A gap blitz. We just sent the house every 3rd down and got burned often enough to allow the Chargers to burn-up the clock

by Smallbugger on Nov 15, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

What choice did they have? They didn’t have timeouts, half their defense was injured or playing out position to make up for injuries… McDermott was doing anything he could think.

by JasonB on Nov 15, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

Dont Disrespect the Level

by 700 Level on Nov 16, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Football fans...not as smart as baseball fans.

Football is a team game, firstly. All three phases are really interdependant.

Secondly, why are we on McDermott here? Andy and the offense are wholly uninspired. What a surprise. Don’t you think the three and outs and the three pass series’ ending in a punt puts any kind of strain on a defense that is as healthy as a M*A*S*H tent?

Please think about how shitty Andy’s?Marty’s playcalling is and how many possessions those clowns waste with their super-tricky gadget plays and McNabb throwing into deep zones because the opposing defensive co-ordinator knows that the Eagles just don’t run the ball.

It’s so obvious people. It really, really is.

by bigmyc on Nov 17, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

??????

No Wildcat plays? Why!

by 5IVE on Nov 16, 2009 11:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Did you miss the horrible play where Vick threw it five feet behind the receiver?

"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin

by Scott in Shaw on Nov 16, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

When Vick is in the game it is not a wildcat play. He is a QB it is a normal play. So 5ive is correct there were zero wildcat plays.

Jim Johnson 1941-2009

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Nov 16, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

It definitely wasn’t 5 ft and Jackson had it in his heads. Even if it was behind him a little, personally, I think Jackson should of had that.

In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt

by Eaglesgrl5 on Nov 16, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Again about baseball people understanding more...

Wildcat. Why?

What does it possibly bring to the table beside de- railing any kind of momentum that McNabb seems to struggle to keep? They are wasted downs…much like most of the offensive gameplan in general.

by bigmyc on Nov 17, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Phew! No more West Coast trips!

"Backs in the 'I'...First and 10...McNabb, play action. Is back again. He is looking..he is going deep. He wants DeSean Jackson..who HAS IT!!! HE HAS IT!!! AND STEPPED INTO THE ENDZONE!! He took it away from the defender!! He took it away from Dominique Rogers-Cromarte, and ran into the endzone!!"

by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Nov 16, 2009 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

I totally apologize for ever supporting Gocong.

I mean he is on our team, and I would love to keep looking at what seems to be potential, but he SUCKED in this game. 2 tackles?!?!?!? From our Mike?!?!?!?! Dielman beat him like a step-child every other play. He was completely man-handled and generally not even in a position to make a play until after the back had at least 7 yards. Could not get off a blocker. Looked lost most of the day,

by madderwulf on Nov 16, 2009 6:11 PM EST reply actions  

You realize that Gocong never played MIKE b4?

Don’t you?

You realize that McDermott had little choice but to put him in there, don’t you?

You understand that the guy is an outside LB converted from a DE now trying to fill an injury riddled position, don’t you?

by bigmyc on Nov 17, 2009 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

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