1st Half Report Cards
by JimmyK on Nov 13, 2009 11:30 AM EST
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8 games down, 8 to go. If the season ended today, the Eagles would be in the playoffs. I'm trying to decide if the first half of the season so far has been disappointing. On the one hand, we lost extremely winnable games to Dallas and Oakland, but on the other, we had 5 very convincing victories. Let's grade the majority of our players one at a time...
Before we critique each player, let's first note that this team has been flat-out rocked by injuries. We've already put the following players on IR...
Stewart Bradley, Shawn Andrews, Omar Gaither, Cornelius Ingram, and now Ellis Hobbs. NOTE - If you've been IR'd, you won't be a factor again until next season and therefore won't get a grade, although I made an exception for Shawn Andrews.
And the following starters have missed at least one full game...
Donovan McNabb, Brian Westbrook, Todd Herremans, Victor Abiamiri, Chris Gocong, Stacy Andrews, Kevin Curtis.
Injuries happen in football, but that's just ridiculous.
Anyway, moving on to the first half report card based on preseason expectations...
OFFENSE
QB
Donovan McNabb - C+ The inconsistency just kills me. From game to game, you really have no idea what you're going to get. He was outstanding against the Giants and Bucs, and played well enough against the Redskins and Panthers, but was terrible in the 2 losses to Oakland and Dallas. Andy Reid on several occasions has called Donovan the best QB in the league. He's not even close. Guys like Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger, etc, will their teams to win. I keep waiting for McNabb to show that quality, but if the outcome of any Eagles game is within 7 points, there's a good chance we didn't win.
Kevin Kolb - A- First of all, don't let the A- vs. C+ for McNabb fool anyone. McNabb is the QB of this team (as he should be). But 2 starts, 718 yards, 4 TD, NFL offensive player of the week, and he was the first player in NFL history to throw for 300 yards in his first 2 career starts. I don't hear anyone chirping that we should trade him anymore.
Michael Vick - C I still like the acquisition. He really hasn't been a distraction, which is a credit to the Eagles' PR people, although he's basically done nothing for the team so far. Still, can anyone name a better 3rd QB... ever? And if he nets us a draft pick in return at the end of the season, it's a brilliant move.
RB
Brian Westbrook - D+ Brian Westbrook is one of the best players in the history of this franchise, but it's pretty simple... Injuries and a seemingly sharp decline in ability has led to 327 yards from scrimmage through 8 games. This is a far, far, faaarrrr cry from the Brian Westbrook of years past.
LeSean McCoy - B- Needs a ton of improvement picking up blitzes, and I have a heart attack every time he carries the ball through the hole a foot from his body, but he's shown that he can definitely be a playmaker in this league. I hear experts say that the Eagles don't miss anything when Westbrook is hurt, which may be true of the 2009 version of Westbrook, but he's nowhere near the talent of the Westbrook we've all grown to love... yet.
Leonard Weaver - B+ He got 8 carries against the Giants, and 8 carries last week against Dallas. That's exactly the right amount of use for The Weave. In the 6 weeks before that, he had a grand total of 4 carries - Totally unacceptable. What the hell took so long, guys? Let's hope Andy and Marty keep at it.
WR
DeSean Jackson - A This would be an A+ if he didn't hire Drew Rosenhaus. But that aside, this is the best offensive player (non-QB edition) in the division, period.
Jeremy Maclin - B+ Had DeSean Jackson not had a spectacular rookie season last year, I think Maclin would be receiving a lot of attention as a real up-and-coming great player. In his first 5 starts... 19 catches, 291 yards, 3 TD. Average that over 16 games and you're looking at 61 catches, 931 yards, 10 TD. He's only going to get better.
Kevin Curtis - Inc. Hasn't played
Jason Avant - D+ Are there other people out there that are disappointed that Jason Avant has pretty much been invisible? We saw some nice steady improvement every year so far out of Avant, but he has leveled off so far this season.
Reggie Brown - F We can't cut him because it'll be a huge cap hit, and we can't trade him because nobody wants his salary, not mention that he, um, isn't good. His stats so far this season - 1 catch, 4 yards. Hooray!
TE
Brent Celek - A Not including last night's Niners/Bears game, where does Celek rank statistically among NFC TE's? 3rd in catches (40), 1st in yards (486), 5th in TD's (4), 1st in receptions gaining 20+ yards (7), and tied for 2nd in receptions resulting in a 1st down (23). Brent, book your tickets to Hawaii (oops, Miami).
Alex Smith - Um, C, I guess Moving along.
OL
Jason Peters - A Peters has been phenomenal this season. I'm going to spend some time on this one, so buckle up. OK, for anyone that disagrees that he should get the same grade as DeSean Jackson and Brent Celek, put yourself in Peters' shoes...
- You come to a new to a team and have to learn a new style of pass blocking, a new offense, and new teammates.
- The starting LG (more specifically, the guy next to you on the line) has been out pretty much all season, and you’re trying to get on the same page with a backup while picking up some of their slack.
- You’re one of only 2 starting OL that has remained healthy, and have therefore had virtually no opportunity to develop any kind of legitimate continuity.
- You get no help whatsoever… NONE… because the RB’s and TE’s are almost solely helping on the right side of the line.
- Your responsibilities (again, in mostly one-on-one situations) so far have included Julius Peppers, Will Smith, Richard Seymour, Andre Carter, Osi Umenyiora, and DeMarcus Ware. If you're counting at home, those 6 guys have a combined 15 total Pro Bowls and over 300 combined career sacks.
- Your team passes 65% of the time, and the defense knows it.
All that said, I can think of 2 bad plays this season where Peters was responsible - Just 2... a sack-fumble by Andre Carter, and a sack-fumble by Osi Umenyiora. He's done an absolutely remarkable job, and is easily the most irreplaceable player on this team (see the Oakland game for reference).
Todd Herremans - Inc. Missed most of the season so far, but played well in his first 2 games back. Huge boost to this offense if he can stay healthy.
Jamaal Jackson - C The interior D Lines for Oakland and Dallas wore him out, although he's played well otherwise. He's becoming a bit of a concern.
Nick Cole - B- See Jamaal Jackson. Really nice backup, but he's not an NFL starting caliber guard.
Max Jean Gilles - C I like his talent, but he's sort of a bad fit for this team and the kind of offense we run. He'd be much more valuable in a smashmouth style offense.
Winston Justice - B+ Personally, I had completely written him off, and was even a little annoyed he made the final roster. Oops. My bad, Winston. He gets a lot of help from the RB's and TE's in pass protection, but he's been an extremely pleasant surprise. The Andrews brothers have done everything in their power to completely destroy the right side of our line, but Justice has held down the fort admirably.
Stacy Andrews - F--- 6 year, 38.9 million contract, and he doesn't even play. Awful. Not wasting any more energy here.
Shawn Andrews - Z- Bye. You don't deserve to wear an Eagles uniform.
DEFENSE
DL
Trent Cole - A I've typed this over and over again, but Trent Cole is the best defensive player on this team, and one of the true elite DE's in the game. The lack of national recognition is astounding.
Mike Patterson and Brodrick Bunkley - A- Apologies to Mike and Brodrick for lumping them together, but they're pretty much the same guy. The Eagles give up less than 100 rushing yards per game, which is remarkable, considering the Eagles' linebacker situation. Full credit goes to Patterson and Bunkley. They've been great.
Victor Abiamiri - D He missed 10 games his rookie season, 6 games last year, and 3 so far this year. My patience is waning.
Juqua Parker - C+ 4 sacks in split-time duty... About what should have been expected. Was torn between a B- and C+, but opted for the latter because of his preseason nonsense.
Trevor Laws - D- If anyone has seen Trevor Laws this season, please contact the Philadelphia police.
Darren Howard - C- I don't think anyone was expecting a repeat of his 10 sack season of a year ago, but he's been pretty quiet so far, with only 2 sacks.
Jason Babin - A- Why was he inactive for 4 games?!? He's clearly the best DE on this team right now not named Trent Cole. He has 2.5 sacks in 4 games (of which he saw very limited action). Can we please get this guy on the field some more?
Chris Clemons - C- This time last year, he would have earned himself a solid F, but he picked up his game nicely in the second half of the season. He's been better in the first half of the year so far this year than he was last, but he's still underachieving.
LB
Akeem Jordan - B+ I just really like this kid. 53 tackles, a sack, a couple picks. He flies all over the field and makes plays.
Will Witherspoon - Inc. SPOOOOON! In his first game here, he had 8 tackles, a sack, a forced fumble, an interception, a TD, and a new nickname. Great start, and a monster upgrade over (fill in the blank of any other healthy LB on this team). Too early to give him a grade, although based on those 3 games, I'd lean toward an A-.
Chris Gocong - C Someone recently wrote a good post about Gocong noting the little things that he does (like blowing up the fullback in the hole, and things of that nature). And while I appreciate all of that, he simply can't cover anybody and never makes any big plays. I'm all for role players, but not when they start.
Moise Fokou - Inc. Need to see more of Fokou to make any kind of informed opinion, although he's not off to a good start after a couple killer penalties last Sunday.
Jeremiah Trotter- F I'm sorry. I know this is blasphemy, and I love Trotter, but what purpose does he serve on this team? I just don't get it. The "F" is more on the personnel decision than it is on Trotter himself.
DB
Asante Samuel - A- I hate... H-A-T-E that he can't tackle and doesn't seem to care about that fact, but sometimes it can be overlooked when a guy just make so many HUGE plays. 5 picks in 8 games so far.
Sheldon Brown - A- In my own humble opinion, after Antoine Winfield of the Vikings, Brown is the best tackling CB in the league. This year, he's also making big plays - 4 picks in 8 games so far.
Joselio Hanson - C+ He's played well in nickle and dime back situations, but he's really hurting his team right now with this 4 game suspension.
Quintin Mikell - B Mikell just doesn't ever make mistakes. Rarely ever misses tackles, and allows Sean McDermott to have confidence dialing up blitzes all game. I'd like to see him hang onto a few more balls though - 2 INT drops come to mind.
Sean Jones - B- Jones was a monster in his first start against Washington, and has been solid in his 2 starts since. I've been impressed with his ability to get to the QB on blitzes. He sacked Romo last week, and timed a blitz nicely on Jason Campbell, although Campbell just ducked under Jones when he went airborne, but look to see his role in that area increase in the 2nd half of the season.
Macho Harris - B- What can really be expected of a rookie 5th round pick playing a position he had never played before? He didn't make any big plays, but he didn't exactly kill us either. I'll take it.
Quintin Demps - D Huge disappointment. A few of his quotes prior to Week 1...
- "It’s getting kind of irritating, man," Demps said. "It’s too close to not have a starter already. I just feel like we should already have a starter. I don’t know how to explain it, but it’s getting irritating."
- "Right now, I’m the starting free safety, but there are so many games being played that it’s getting irritating."
- "If I had known it was going to be like this, this late, I would have probably worked extra. It’s kind of been a carousel for me, but I’m just going to go out this last game hopefully and just open some eyes and put it in cement that I’m the starter."
He's too talented to not be contributing more to this team.
SPECIAL TEAMS
David Akers - B I wondered if we should have addressed the kicker position this offseason, but I'm glad we didn't. Yeah, he missed a couple kicks in Oakland, but otherwise he's been very good. His kicks this year...
<40 - 6/6
40-49 - 9/11
>50 - 1/2
PAT - 23/24
Sav Rocca - B He's really not as bad as people perceive. Anyone want to guess how many punts have resulted in touchbacks so far? 2. Punts inside the 20? 15. That's pretty good. You know what the average punt return is against Rocca so far this year? 5.4 yards. He's a little inconsistent, but I can live with the occasional shank if he isn't giving up big returns, keeps the ball out of the endzone, and is good for an occasional bomb.
So that about does it for the major players on this team. If we can get healthy and perhaps get better production from some of our many underachievers, I see no reason this team still can't make a deep playoff run.
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On your injury list
You forgot Akeem is likely out for the upcoming game.
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
I actually think that being in Desean's shadow is Maclin's greatest strength right now
Dont Disrespect the Level
Totally agree on Jason Peters
in addition, he showed his toughness against Dallas
by bleedinggreeninDK on Nov 13, 2009 11:44 AM EST reply actions
Agree
I thought Peters was at least done for the night. Gotta give him credit for returning after what appeared to be a pretty ugly and painful injury.
"The last time the Eagles won by scoring in the final two minutes of regulation was a 23-20 win over Oakland in 2005."
Like this list
very perceptive and honest. I also agree about Sav. I was ready to can him early in the season, but you are 100% correct about his touch punting from about the 40 or 50 – he’ll pin them in every time. The punt coverage as a whole has been outstanding this year, and has contributed a lot to the offense and defense pretty consistently.
In short, I’d give the special teams as a whole my first half MVP.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant
I'll give Rocca a C, and I think thats warranted.
He’s been a decently good punter for us… when he punts. My problem with him has been his holding over the past two seasons. On several of Akers’ misses last year, it looked like he was kicking a crookedly placed ball or was hitting the laces. Both of those are on Sav.
I vote we either let Kolb hold or bring back Detmer… again. At least for the playoffs.
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Just for fun I gotta disagree on a couple
I have a hard time giving a D+ for Westbrook while allowing some other injured guys, most notably Curtis, to get away with an incomplete. Curtis did play a couple of games and was pitiful. Westbrook at least had a good game.
I can’t agree with your A’s for Samuel or Peters either. Peters has a few timely false starts and has given up 4 sacks. I agree with your analysis as to how much he has been put through so I’d give him a B+ based on that. What we don’t know is whether or not he is a cream puff who wilts under a little pain or a tough guy who is playing through something brutal. I also agree he is the most irreplacable guy but only because Dunlap should never be on any NFL roster.
As for Samuel, he allowed Patrick Crayton to gain an additional 30 yards which gave the Boys 3 more points. He should have been called for PI allowing another TD. And I cannot even begin to count how many first downs he has given up with his inability to wrap when he tackles. To get an A, he’d have to get 20 interceptions in a year to make up for how bad he is when he isn’t picking off passes. To me, he is a C+, at best. If I don’t take his contract into consideration, I might be swayed into a B.
Peters...
Fair points on the other guys, but I totally disagree on Peters. He actually only has 3 false starts so far (2 were in the first game, which is somewhat understandable), and 1 holding penalty. As for the “4 sacks,” I realize that’s what he’s credited for, but I’d really have to see what what they’re crediting a sack to him for, because really, only 2 come to mind. And even if it is 4 legitimate sacks where Peters is definitely to blame, that’s actually still impressive based upon the one-on-one matchups he’s had to deal with all season.
Also worth mentioning (which I regretfully did not add in the original post itself) is his outstanding run blocking.
Does anyone think Curtis should've been placed on IR!?
I kind of think so becuz the guys been through SO much, injury wise, and seems to be wasting a roster spot. Yea there are what ifs, but seriously! Though if we had, then we might not have been able to get Spoon becuz Gibson would’ve been on our active roster. But ur asking Curtis to get FULLY healthy, come in, play with his biggest weapon (his speed) and hope he won’t re-injure him self in the process. He will also most likely rotate in with Maclin in a minimal roll. And most likely will move to the Slot. If he stays healthy. I dont know man.
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
You can’t put Curtis on IR… not until you’re sure he won’t be able to contribute. Right now there are only four healthy WR’s on the roster. There’s a chance we’re going to need Curtis down the stretch.
"The last time the Eagles won by scoring in the final two minutes of regulation was a 23-20 win over Oakland in 2005."
I guess u misunderstood!
I asked if anyone though Curtis “SHOULD’VE” been put on IR. Meaning, early this season! Of course u can’t do that now, cuz we only have 4 active wideouts right now!!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
Ohhhh
In that case, my answer is still no. No one knew what we were going to be able to get out of Maclin at the time, Reggie was Reggie, then our only other options were Baskett and Gibson. Curtis was our only other reliable starter at the time (besides Jackson). Maybe hindsight being 20/20, it might not have been a bad idea, but you can’t fault Andy for not putting him on IR.
You do have some good points though… I’m very skeptical of how effective Curtis will be if/when he returns.
"The last time the Eagles won by scoring in the final two minutes of regulation was a 23-20 win over Oakland in 2005."
how
how does sheldon with one less pick and can actually tackle and good in coverage get same grade as asante who jumps routes and cant tackle anyone? ..peters should get an A+ .. and gocong should be a D .. macho should also be lower .. nothing higher than a C
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 13, 2009 1:16 PM EST reply actions
Because Sheldon “jumps routes” too. Thats exactly what he tried to do on Austin’s TD… he bit on the double move and tried to jump the inside route.
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
I think
he was expecting safety help.
RIP Jim Johnson. You will truly be missed.
by Igglesfan13 on Nov 14, 2009 12:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i would give macho a C+
he never really made a whole lot of mistakes….he was just kind of invisible. but for a rookie, not bad at all. there is some definite potential. i see nothing wrong with giving him or demps some snaps at nickel.
"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China
whoa
so he got beat on one double move and now he jumps routes .. sheldon always plays the man .. he got beat one time n had no saftey help .. big deal .. he hasnt jumped routes his whole career and to say that cuz of one play is insulting to him
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 13, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Jason Peters
You’re breakdown of Peters is well-done. I’ve gotten a little tired of people ripping Peters for underachieving, but he’s come into a very tough situation and has had some tough injuries to overcome (nasty looking injuries against Oakland and Dallas) and overall has done a nice job. He has fixed his false start problems. He has given up a few sacks and/or hurries, but that has to be expected. No LT in the league is going to be perfect all season long, especially when he doesn’t get any help for the TE’s and RB’s.
If we’re missing Peters this weekend against SD, we’re going to be in trouble.
"The last time the Eagles won by scoring in the final two minutes of regulation was a 23-20 win over Oakland in 2005."
Spoon
I understand the incomplete grade, but I just have to say I am loving Will Witherspoon. When I first saw him against Washington when he chased down Jason Campbell from behind, my first reaction was like “Wow… so that’s what a true linebacker is supposed to look like!”
Gaither was terrible, Gocong is average at best and Trotter… love him to death but yikes. He just doesn’t have it anymore. As for Fokou… I really like his potential, but he needs to cut down on the mistakes big time.
Having said that though… Akeem Jordan I really like. He has been a pleasant surprise so far this season.
(Sidenote: I really miss Stewart Bradley.)
"The last time the Eagles won by scoring in the final two minutes of regulation was a 23-20 win over Oakland in 2005."
Someway, somehow
We gotta get Jordan, Bradley, and Spoon on the field at the same time. If might be worth experimenting with moving Bradley to strong side. I guess it all depends if he comes all the way back from the ACL.
Next year....
Bradley will not be moving anywhere though… Spoon will move outside where he is actually better and probably more comfortable Bradley in the middle with Jordan on the opposite side.
DeSEAN JACKSON THE 10NE
Spoon is a Will and so is Akeem. Frankly, I don’t know if either can play Sam.
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i agree
Spoon will move to the WILL but I don’t know what that means for Akeem. Sam is a whole different animal than Will, and guys here act like any LB can just move to any other spot. It’s like asking a guard to move to a tackle or a DT to move to an end…there are similarities, but on this level where every little nuance either goes in your favor or screws you…every different position is specialized.
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
If Bradley gets his speed back, I can see him making a good Sam. He’s got the body for it, that’s for sure. That would fix the problem.
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
you’re right, it definitely would. i just LOVE him in the middle as a freaking HUGE, SMART anchor. Spoon’s not bad, but he’s not Bradley
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
Well, sure, I loved Bradley in the middle, too. But Spoon’s body just isn’t suited to the Sam position like Bradley’s is. Jordan is 6’0" 230, Spoon is 6’1" 239, Bradley is 6’4" 255.
If we really want to put those three guys on the field, I don’t see any way you can think that putting Akeem or Spoon at the SAM position is better than putting Stew there…
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
yea yea Stu is better suited
Stu has the advantage in strength and MLB talent over Spoon. The only edge I can give Spoon is instincts which Stu is not lacking in either.
Desean is Rampage Jackson on a rampage outside of the cage
by birdsflyinhigh2590 on Nov 13, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
way too high
you are all way to high on bradley .. he had one good year and is coming off a major injury .. spoon is great .. and is a proven vet .. he is better than bradley even when bradleys healthy
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 13, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
i think you're wrong here
but I could be wrong…
Spoon has definitely proven it longer, and he deserves credit…but let’s not bullshit here, look at your screen name; it’s not like anyone has to prove anything to impress you.
Bradley’s upside is higher, and I will remain high on him until I have a reason to drop my expectations. His injury occurred early enough, that’ll he’ll be a year removed from the injury before the preseason starts. He’ll be fine going into the season.
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
completely agree..
One good year means nothing. Consistency is what counts and he has yet to prove it. He might just go ahead and prove it but until then i am right there with you n this one.
by worldphuckinchamps on Nov 14, 2009 1:52 AM EST up reply actions
one good game means nothing
18 good games for the first year you start is definitely consistency. and he is a MLB. It’s not a skill position. It’s not really something you get bad at. Stu is a tough tackler, fills in holes, and is all over the field. You don’t just lose that (unless you obtain a severe injury, like this case). But to say stu isn’t proven yet i believe to be false.
Eagles.
proven what?
one year is not proven .. witherspoons been good for multiple
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 14, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
i'm not saying witherspoon isn't good. he definitely is.
will you agree that stewart bradley was a very good middle linebacker for us last season? name another linebacker who is very good some years, and bad other years. As a MLB, you either get it or you don’t. If you can come up with some names then i’ll eat my words but at this point, i think it’s safe to say that stewart is a good MLB and has proven himself to be a good MLB for his first year starting and years to come. now i will add that this injury might be costly. i’ve never torn an acl, but i’ve heard that you are never the same athlete again and that worries me. a lot.
Eagles.
hmm
joey porter .. karlos dansby . dominant and then average .. i hope hes a stud but one year and a injury doesnt have me sold
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 15, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
yeaaa
I’ll buy porter, but he is 32 years old. Thats pretty old for a LB. That’s like using trotter as an example. However, porter has had some off years… maybe in 02 and 07. But in 11 seasons of pro football, if 2 seasons with less than 7 sacks is bad playing, i’ll take him any day. dansby has been playing pretty well. he’s a beast. he’s all over the field. i wouldn’t mind having him right now either. His only “problem” is that he hasn’t had as many sacks, but the cards don’t really use him like that.
Eagles.
i agree
i love dansby.. hes better than any of our lbs .. yes any! bradley and spoon included .. but he had a monster year .. and then had an average one . and is back to being a stud
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 16, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
?
’04: 15 games played, 11 starts: 60 tackles
’05: 15 games played, 15 starts: 80 tackles
’06: 14 games played, 10 starts: 80 tackles
’07: 14 games played, 14 starts: 97 tackles
’08: 16 games played, 16 starts: 117 tackles
And he’s on pace for about 110-odd tackles this season. When did he have a great year, average one, monster year? He was somewhat injury prone in his early year, but improved every year to get to where he is now.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
if you want those guys on the field
you’re right, that’s the way you have to do it…Stu’s the only one who can play Sam
And I do like keeping that trio of backers on the field. that would be the best starting linebacking corps we’ve had in a LONG time!
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
I hear u
I mean Stu was originally drafted to fill our SAM spot! But JJ (RIP) experimented with multiple combos at LB. From Stu to Gaither and back and forth. Stu has settled in at MLB very nicely. Smart, strong and athletic! I have no problem with Stu stayin at MLB. But my thing is Jordan seems too solid of a player to be on the bench! Very fast, solid strength and VERY athletic! And Gocong is Gocong! So I just think we need the best playmaking Linebackers on the field. Gocong is solid against the run..but………
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
See I agree with that
I see, Jordan at WILL, Spoon at MLB, and Bradley at SAM! And Gocong, well, he could be moved to DE and play the Joker position. Good against the run and can blitz! That’s a makings of a solid DE!
Problem…the coach probably won’t move Bradley from the MLB spot cuz he was doin’ a darn good job there. But I believe that Akeem, Spoon and Stewart are our best playmaking Linebacker period! We need these guys on the field at the same time.
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
They’ll find a way to get those three on the field at the same time, but I don’t think they’ll move Bradley out of the middle. He was an up-and-coming pro bowl caliber MLB before the injury.
"The last time the Eagles won by scoring in the final two minutes of regulation was a 23-20 win over Oakland in 2005."
That actually sounds pretty good to me..
Jordan, Spoon, and Bradley at LB (in whatever order I think Bradley is a better at MLB and Spoon is a natural on the WILL but I think any combination of those three will work, except Jordan in the middle haha) Gocong at DE sounds very very intriguing. I mean we have been rotating 4-5 guys on the opposite side of Cole for how long now. I dont know how big he is though that might be an issue of him being too small to play the position every down but it sure would be nice seeing him come off the edge for pass rush.
by IgglesFanDeployd on Nov 13, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
how about
gocong not on this roster .. sounds a lot better to me
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 13, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
That's interesting
moving guys to positions that aren’t necessarily their forte for the purpose of putting a stronger overall trio on the field.
I hadn’t thought along those lines, but it doesn’t sound like a bad idea.
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
I'm also wondering
if we’d consider giving Babin some time Sam. He’s played LB in a 3-4 scheme before, but if he can run and cover at all (which I have no idea if he can) He certainly can plow through a FB to stop the run.
With that said, I’m not down on Gocong yet.
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
Yeah, Babin played LB before… but I think that’s why he wasn’t on an NFL roster this summer. He can’t do it. It’s not a bad idea to try out, but I think it’s obvious he’s better suited just to rush the QB.
"The last time the Eagles won by scoring in the final two minutes of regulation was a 23-20 win over Oakland in 2005."
Smitty!! I will have to agree with you, Spoon’s first game was incredible and he tends to be everywhere on the field and get the tackle. As for Gaither.. not a fan. After reading that post about Gocong I am able to appreciate him more. And Trotter… well enough said.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
You didn't give the referees a grade
Oh no you’re right. I forgot they play for Dallas
by tanman5 on Nov 13, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Thats my boy Peters.
Anyone else notice that Ware was nowhere to be found when Peters was in.
If Life Gives You Lemons, Just Say FUCK IT and Bail.
You forgot about Antonio Dixon.
He pushes the whole line when they put him in.
If Life Gives You Lemons, Just Say FUCK IT and Bail.
Rec'd Bye, Dawk
Nice Post!
I agree with basically everything, including Dawk’s assessment of Westbrook’s D-…I haven’t been unimpressed with him when he’s been on the field, and I think we’ll see flashes of old Westy yet to come this year.
I’m also VERY high on Peters, and probably higher on Justice, that dude straight up deserves an A for what he’s done this year (especially if you’re grading them against pre-season expectations)…
This post also makes me wish every position looked like our D Line with ability and depth! Those guys are doing a tremendous job! Trent got my vote for halftime MVP…the dude just motors, and disrupts EVERYTHING!!! I’m also really high on Jason Babin…what a story! I’m hoping they extend him (and Weaver and Sean Jones, whom I’m glad won the starting job) Antonio Dixon’s been solid, I know Redskins fans were pissed when we got him, so that alone excites me!
Nice job though, good post!
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
Give Avant a break....
I like this list and agree with most of it with the exception of Avant. I would have graded him higher. The times has been call on to catch a third down pass for a first down has been tremendous in my opinion. And most of his receptions haven’t been easy ones. One that he caught in the last game could make a highlight film. He runs better routes than most of the receivers on the team and has probably the best hands. When he’s been in the game, he’s done his job. It’s true that in a couple games the passes haven’t gone his way. I think if you look at the numbers of drops he’s had compared to the other receivers and tight end, he has the least amount. I would like to see him used more, even in a third and one……or fourth and one situation. I would have graded him a C+.
Trotter seems to do about as much for this team as Vick
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
Weaver
I love Weaver and he has been good wen the opportunity arises but back in high school we had a formation called beefy were our fullback was the running back with our quickest tackle lined up at fullback in a goal line look. But I think they should put Alex Smith in front of Weaver, then bring in Dunlap as the extra TE. Its a predictable formation but they still have to try n stop Weaver from pounding them.
Desean is Rampage Jackson on a rampage outside of the cage
by birdsflyinhigh2590 on Nov 13, 2009 6:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Gotta ask.
How do you guys define MVP?
DeSean. Is. Electrifying.
but
Does 6 TD’s make for MVP? He’s been invisible for multiple games.
I’m not saying I don’t like DJax, but how would you feel if Trent went down on D?
….
…
..
Me either.
Trent MVP.
no way!
bunkley is mvp .. if we didnt have him opponents would run it down our throats .. bad lbs except for spoon means trouble .. bunkley gets mvp for me
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 13, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn't you have to say Bunkley + Patterson?
Both of them are the one that stop the running game?
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
It should be...
Both of them are the ONES that stop the running game.
Double Cobb’d! Haha!
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by Route36 on Nov 13, 2009 10:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
bunk
bunkley is better than patterson
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 14, 2009 3:38 AM EST up reply actions
...?
What, exactly, makes you say that when they do the same exact thing together?
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
He is actually right about that one...
Bunkley has more tackles for loss and has a bigger impact on the line.
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by Route36 on Nov 14, 2009 4:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Really?
Where did you get that stat from? Not doubting you or anything; just wondering where they hold those stats at…
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
I’m going straight from memory from the games right now. I am on the train to work, I will find the stat for you when I get home.
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by Route36 on Nov 14, 2009 4:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ok, thanks
Those would be some neat stats to look at…
And yes, I am a complete geek for saying that.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
Can't believe I'm going to say this
But there’s a better argument for Bunk than there is for Jax.
by cavortingEagle on Nov 14, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
Good Point
I say Cole and Bunkley deserve Co-Defensive-MVPs. Without them our defense is average.
Then Desean Jackson deserves Offensive MVP.
As far as overall MVP goes… I don’t know. All three are equally as valuable to me.
The problem with this is more often than not your QB should be your team’s MVP and McNabb obviously isn’t. His inconsistency kills us. Look at the good teams in the league right now and who their MVPs are…
NO – Brees
IND – Manning
MIN – Favre (could probably make an argument for Jared Allen)
NE – Brady
PIT – Rothlisberger
CIN – Palmer (maybe Benson?)
DAL – Romo (I just threw up in my mouth a little bit)
Agree? Disagree?
"The last time the Eagles won by scoring in the final two minutes of regulation was a 23-20 win over Oakland in 2005."
MIN – Favre (could probably make an argument for Jared Allen)
Adrian Peterson. Favre would not have be as good as he is if it wasn’t for defenses deciding to prepare for Peterson first and Favre second. Not to mention Peterson is still fourth in the league rushing per game while Favre is 12th in passing yards per game.
Your overall point is a fair one, nevertheless.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
MIN – AP- No question. Farve would suck without him.
PITT- Troy Polomalu- They lost both the games he didn’t play.
DAL- Gotta be Austin. He is Romo’s savior this year. They won 3 games just because of Austin this year.
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by Route36 on Nov 14, 2009 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I get your point
but I don’t think that the MVP should necessarily be your QB. If your team lacks playmakers, of course you need your QB to step up. That was our case most of this decade. The whole offense was on McNabb’s shoulders. it’s different now. We have a plethora of playmakers, and I’d prefer a QB who was NOT our MVP, but also not a guy that can’t get our offense into a rhythm.
I want a QB that makes the players around him look better; even if you don’t remember his name. I want to walk away saying WOW, Jackson, Maclin, Celek, McCoy, Westbrook, and Weaver were awesome!!!! And it doesn’t matter who gave them the ball, just that the ball got into their hands quickly and efficiently.
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
Sad Reality
Plenty of guys are playing very well this season but the sad reality is our MVP is taking the snaps and killing us with his inconsistency!
I agree
with our playmakers, we don’t need a playmaker QB, we just need an efficient one.
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
Good post
I give Donovan a B-, give Kolb a C, Vick gets an D- for uselessness. I give Weaver an A and the Fatman a big fat F. In the words of Morgan Freeman in Lean on Me (who was speaking to fat Sams but could have been speaking to Reid, “you’re a big fat baby and you don’t know shit.” Peters is not as bad as I thought he’d be, but I give him a B, not an A. Reggie Brown gets an F-. He’s a disgrace.
"Right now Winston Justice is the guy...until that person gets back out there"
a C for Kolb...
What’s ur reasoning!? Or is it jus a genuine “Hate” thing. I’m NOT callin u a Hater, but I know a lot of Eagles fans have a genuine hate for Kolb just becuz he’s the new guy about to take over for Dmac. And becuz he can’t throw a DEEP ball as far as Dmac! Other people think he’s not athletic enough, which is not true. True he’s not as athletic as Dmac, but then again, how many current Elite NFL QBs are?? Kolb is athletic though. He is a mobile QB. Watch his college highlights. This kid can scramble and move throughout the pocket.
Anyway, like Bye Dawk asked..why a C?
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
seriously, Kolb shows up for 2 weeks as a starter and breaks the NFL record for QBs in their first two starts. Wins offensive player of the week…and in 2 games makes every receiver on this team look more efficient than McNabb had in 4. I’m serious about that!!!!
EVERY receiver on this team (except for Maclin b/c he wasn’t starting when Kolb was) had more catches for more yards and more touchdowns in 2 games with Kolb than 4 with Donovan.
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Nov 14, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh u gotta end this one with REAL TALK!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
I'm with you on the "Fatman" but...
Kolb deserves at least a B even if you hate him. As much as I love Donovan, Kolb gets a better grade then him for the first half in my book.
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by Route36 on Nov 14, 2009 11:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't feel like looking up the stats again
but I did it just before the Giants game, and in 2 games EVERY receiver on this team (except for Maclin b/c he wasn’t starting when Kolb was in) had more catches for more yards and more TDs and more 1st downs than with McNabb for 4 games.
Kolb makes this offense look efficient. McNabb makes it look anemic.
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
WOW
No bull! I knew that our offense looked more smooth with Kolb in, but I didnt think it was to that extent!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
Hey jalarsen...
Don’t forget bout the 2 min drives that Kolb was able to execute! Whens the last time Dmac executed a 2 min drive. Umm, I’m havin trouble remembering. Haha! But seriously though, I’m not bashin Dmac, I just can’t remember the last time Dmac executed a 2 min drive! Yet Kolb looked poised, focused and in the zone when it came down to 2 mins!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
when
when did kolb run the 2 min drill .. when we lost to saints or we blew out the chiefs?
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 15, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
I believe both! But that's not the point
Point is…Kolb sustained a drives more than once! And executed a 2 min drive. I don’t care if we lost those game. Dmac hasnt be able to run a 2 min offense in God knows how long WIN LOSE or DRAW! We can all recall Kolbs 2 mins drives, but what about Dmac. It just shows that Kolb has some promise!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
looks like today...Dmac finally ran a 2min offense after a long absence...
FINALLY, after soo long! That’s what I wanted to see outta him.
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
Exactly my point with your dumb idiotic comments yet AGAIN. Donovan ran the 2 minute offense successfully on a few occasions in today’s game. Just like I’ve been saying….You don’t know what the fuck your talking about! Just another McNann hater that when he does good, you jump right back on his bandwagon. If he wins a superbowl for us, I bet you’ll love him then. Kolb this, Kolb that, Kolb went 1-1. And the game he won was against the fucking Chiefs! You really don’t know your football. Hahahaha!
by PhillyEagle4Life on Nov 15, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
WRONG!
Kolb this, Kolb that, Kolb went 1-1. And the game he won was against the fucking Chiefs!
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Yep Kolb was the QB in the lowly Chiefs game and we won. Good for us! This exact same team played a lowly Raiders team with Dmac at he helm, and we LOST! We lost the freakin RAIDERS. And again, Dmac was the QB! And don’t blame the line cuz we had the exact same line when we played the Chiefs. Peters got hurt, but not before Dmac was struggle. McNabb was strugglin the ENTIRE game from the first snap til the end! So don’t just write off a bad team like the Chiefs. I guess u wrote off the Raiders too. And happened, WE LOST! Any given Sunday a team can win.
U said that right!
You really don’t know your football. Hahahaha!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
And again
I’ll disregard your,
Just another McNann hater that when he does good, you jump right back on his bandwagon.U obviously don’t read my comments! Hahah. Reading is fundamental homie! Before u try to call someone out…how bout u do a lil research!
Cuz u be lookin very confused!! Just take a breath and relax
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
Donovan ran the 2 minute offense successfully on a few occasions in today’s game
.
Listen to ur self. TODAYS GAME! What about last week, or 3 weeks ago, or last season or the season b4 that! I said, “Dmac hasnt be able to run a 2 min offense in God knows how long WIN LOSE or DRAW!” Which is fact! But as of yesterdays game he executed it! But after how many games and seasons! I gave him credit so don’t complain.
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
hey hey
i love mcnabb .. n i love kolb .. kolb is our future .. mcnabb is a hof .. so im not biased. . but when did kolb run these two min drills .. we blew out kc .. and he threw a pick to sharper i believe
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 16, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
2 min drills don't just deal with "End of the Game"
It deals with having to move the ball forward within 2 mins of the end of a half too! Kolb did just that acouple of times. U brung up a pick that didnt happen during a 2min drive. It was a regular scenario. Though it happ in the redzone though! Don’t use KC being a bad team as an excuse! The Raiders were a bad team and we LOST to them! And McNabb was the QB. And don’t use Peters as an excuse becuz when Peters was playing, Dmac was having a bad game as well as the line.
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
Listen...
I think you report card sucks! It’s complete ASS! You need to observe these games more closely before you judge their performances. You are clearly not a true Eagles fan. A Quarterback is only as good as his head coach and offensive line. Look at Brady and Manning and Brees for example. Even Roethlisberger! They have great blocking upfront, and when they don’t, they too play bad! But their blocking is so consistent, they hardly play like McNabb has been playing. Why? Because our playcalling and offensive lineman have not been consistent. Donovan cannot do it all himself!!! And if you were a real football fan with even the slightest knowledge, you’d know that. One man cannot win a game. You dumb, stupid, fake eagle fan liking motherfucker!
by PhillyEagle4Life on Nov 15, 2009 10:37 PM EST reply actions
wow, I think your obsession with donovan is unhealthy
Stop comparing him to Manning, Brady and Brees. He’s not THAT good. He’s a good QB, but not one of their level right now.
AND I THINK YOUR OBSESSION WITH BRADY, BREES AND MANNING PROVES YOU ARE REALLY A SAINTS, COLTS, OR PATRIOTS FAN!
I agree with you. Right Now, Donovan’s play has not been on that a level of theirs. AGAIN, due to poor play/injuries of our offensive line and poor coaching decisions by Andy Reid.
by PhillyEagle4Life on Nov 15, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Sometimes it’s the O-line’s fault. Sometimes it’s andy’s/marty’s fault. Sometimes it’s donovan’s fault.
fuck brady
brady is the most overrated thing ever!! doenst even have HOF numbers .. now peyton is the best to ever play .. and brees is becoming a HOFer in that offense. . similar to kurt warner … kurt warner should be mentioned with the all time greats but he isnt ..so thats some bs that brady is and he is over rated with average numbers compared to warner
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 16, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
let's see
Manning: 48500 yards; 262.2 yards/game. 7.7 yards/attempt; 2.7% int; 5.6% TD.
Brady: 29185 yards; 239.2 yards/game; 7.3 yards/attempt; 2.3% INT; 5.4% TD
Warner: 31106 yards; 261.4 yards/game; 8.0 yards/attempt; 3.1% INT; 5.1% TD
Brees: 28817 yards; 248.4 yards/game; 7.3 yards/attempt; 2.7% INT; 4.7% TD
Marino: 61361 yards; 253.6 yards/game; 7.3 yards/attempt; 3.0% INT; 5.0% TD
Manning is the best, Brady’s yards/game are kind of low in comparison to the others, but not by an incredible amount. Hit int% is lower than marino’s and his TD% is higher than marino’s, with his yards/attempt being equal. I don’t know…it seems lik ehe stacks up pretty well when compared to these other guys and hall of famer marino.
you missed some important stats that matter in HOF voting … 3 time Superbowl Champ 2 time Superbowl MVP
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
o bs
superbowl champ is not an ind acomplishment .. its a team .. that shit dont matter .. his over all numbers are average .. how many 4000 yard seasons? how many years with 30 plus tds? outside of that monster year hes been average .. that superbowl shit is what gets him over rated .. i would dare say mcnabb is better than brady .. brady is overrated .. manning is the best ever .. warner is top 5 n no one gives him any credit .. warner >brady .. no contest
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 16, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Oi
Me two months ago:
2002: Manning: 27 TD Brady:28 TD
2003: Manning: 29 TD Brady 23 TD
2004: Manning 49 TD Brady 28 TD
2005: Manning: 28 TD Brady:26 TD
2006: Manning: 31 TD Brady 24 TD
2007: Manning: 31 TD Brady 50 TD
It’s not as big as you think. 2003, 2004, and 2006 Manning beat Brady handily in TD’s thrown. Brady beat Manning handily once, and other two time it’s close. I’ll call that similar number while in favor of Manning.
Me several months ago with Brady’s states:
2002: 28 TDs (Most that year), 14 ints
2003: 23 TDs (10th), 12 Ints
2004: 28 TDs (6th), 14 Ints
2005 26 TDs (3rd), 14 Ints
2006: 24 TDs (T-4th), 12 Ints
2007: 50 TDs (Most), 8 Ints
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
no
three seasons of 30 plus tds for manning .. only one for brady .. now do yards .. please do yards
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 17, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
superbowl champ is not an ind acomplishment
I never said it was but if you think it doesn’t matter in the eyes of HOF voters you are mistaken.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
o hes gettin in
hes a lock for that . hes just not top 10 qb ever .. hes over rated .. thats wha im saying
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Nov 17, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with that
Brady is an arrogant, overrated QB! Brady, Im not mobile so I need special treatment to protect and HELP me, is a good QB, but overrated! I’m not sayin that Brady asks for these rules to be made, but when u look at a ref right after a player touches u, or look at he ref constantly just to get a call…you gotta see that it doesnt look good! Just play the game. Why always worry about gettin a call on ur side! Play the game! How many Peyton Manning rules are out there?! Peyton is a beast!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
I would ask what you would give McNabb, and why, but I’d probably rather hope you just go back to yahoo or yardbarker. Question for you – Do you just constantly go up to strangers in the street and call them MF’ers? No, right? Why do it on the internet? All opinions are certainly welcome here, but in the future, let’s try setting aside your everyday angers and frustrations, and let’s just talk football. How’s that sound?
I don’t hear anyone chirping that we should trade him anymore.
Except Evilbanner
Jason Avant – D+ Are there other people out there that are disappointed that Jason Avant has pretty much been invisible? We saw some nice steady improvement every year so far out of Avant, but he has leveled off so far this season.
After yesterdays game – I would assume this grade would change cause he was a beast against the Chargers. Avant will catch anything thrown to him. And Reggie Brown had a decent game too when he actually got to play and was thrown the ball.
I laughed out loud… the Andrews sisters get an F and a Z… what a waste.
I know I’m a little late getting to this post but good job ByeDawk.. nice post! Rec’d
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
After yesterdays game – I would assume this grade would change cause he was a beast against the Chargers. Avant will catch anything thrown to him. And Reggie Brown had a decent game too when he actually got to play and was thrown the ball.
Avant looked great yesterday, and forget about the ridiculous catch he made – We all kind of already knew he had great hands. What impressed me more was his ability to break tackles and get upfield. It was also nice to see Reggie Brown still has a pulse. Unfortunately, their grades for the first half of the season stand, but both are obviously off to a much better start in the second half.
that obviously makes sense considering the first half is over… I guess I’m just bias considering I love Avant and I think he catches everything that is thrown to him. Its not his fault he doesn’t get in as much as the other WRs
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
defensive backs,team,coaching
I see where all is given credit to the Eagles corner backs,and I agree to a certain extent.Now the safety play,well let’s say I’m going to be a little harsher.Quienton Mikell
and Sean Jones should get a tape of Troy Polamalu on how to play safety,how to tackle and just don’t take bad and stupid angles.When Miles Austin caught that sideline pass from Tony Homo,that Sheldon Brown bit on,well he should have been tackled right there,but no Quinten Mikell was out of possition,and for the life of me,what was Sean Jones thinking,he should’ve blasted him right there on the sidelines.Where have you gone Brian Dawkins,we miss you.I don’t want to bring up the Oakland game either,because I’ll call them out again,letting a slow ass Tightend rumble 86 yards for a TD,that was the worst tackling I’ve ever seen.Macho Harris is Victor Harris until he shows he can actually tackle somebody.You got to wrap boys when you tackle,which is the first thing you learn in Pop Warner football. This team will not go anywhere they way they play,and coach this team,and I’m tired of Andy Reid’s press coverage on why he doesn’t prepare,or make the necessary chnages he needs to make during the game,like run the damn ball,or get some lineman who can block to get one damn yard.
Nice work
Gilles would be a better fit in Dallas, as he doesn’t have the feet for Philly’s offense.
You undervalue Parker. The guy is a beast. How would he be doing as the full-time starter?
Gocong just seems out of place. Is he a better fit as a 3-4 OLB?
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