NFL official: Spot on McNabb sneak should have been moved
by JasonB on Nov 12, 2009 12:00 PM EST
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You all remember the play... Last week, at around midfield Donovan McNabb ran a QB sneak on 4th down that the officials spotted short of a first down. Replays showed that McNabb was well ahead of where the ball was spotted, but officials instead upheld the ruling on the field.
Mike Pereira. Vice President of NFL Officiating, disagreed with the ruling.
"I think I'd move it," Pereira said. "There was a camera angle that showed exactly where the ball was when McNabb's elbow hit the ground. The Eagles logo at midfield provided a reference point. The spot where the ball was when McNabb's elbow touched the ground did not match the placement of the ball by the referees."
Well thanks... NOW you realize it!
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Mike Pereira...
Almost NEVER disagrees with a call, so this is a very rare admission of a blown call.
It only makes me madder.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 12, 2009 12:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Me two,
whats the use of reply if your still gonna get it wrong.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Nov 12, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Inexcusable.
I would almost rather he back his shitty officials call then confirm we were all correct because there’s jackshit that can be done about it now.
Not like it was a critical play or anything…
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Nov 12, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed I’d rather him continue to say they got the call correct than admit it was wrong. It just infuriates me to know end. I’m not saying this is the reason we lost but it was a pivotal moment in a close game and the refs had SEVERAL chances and angles to get it correct and missed it.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Nov 12, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not saying this is the reason we lost
I am.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 12, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. This not only killed our drive, erased our last time out, and destroyed our momentum, but it also set up the long Austin TD. If we get the first, Austin doesn’t get the TD. If Austin doesn’t get the TD, Eagles win.
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
by IronHank on Nov 12, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, bitter much? One call doesn’t make or break a game.
by Zach22 on Nov 12, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, bitter much?
Yup.
One call doesn’t make or break a game.
Uh, it sure as shit can.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 12, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, because a questionable spot was the exact reason you lost. Nothing to do with all the inane decisions made by Reid, or the fact that Romo pumpfaked 3 of your DB’s out of their shoes, and Miles proceeded to split them.
Face it, Philly wasn’t good enough to win this round. Next time should be a hell of a fight.
by Zach22 on Nov 12, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, because a questionable spot was the exact reason you lost.
Yup, glad we agree.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 12, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“Yup, because a questionable spot was the exact reason you lost. Nothing to do with all the inane decisions made by Reid, or the fact that Romo pumpfaked 3 of your DB’s out of their shoes, and Miles proceeded to split them.”
If the call was made correctly, Romo wouldnt have had the chance to do that pump fake. The blow call was directly related to the exact reason we lost, so by the transitive property, it was the reason we lost.
by philiafan14364 on Nov 12, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because the transitive property always works in football right? Does this mean because the Raiders beat the Eagles, and the Eagles beat the Giants, the Raiders should beat the Giants, right? I hope to god that was a troll comment, because if you actually feel that way, then that is sad.
by Zach22 on Nov 12, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What are you doing here, exactly?
Trolling?
"When Dawkins hits you, you stay hit."
-Troy Vincent
by Tamago3 on Nov 12, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if you didnt come here after 44-6 dont come around now
idiot
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 12, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In other news ....worst non call ever
Samuel is holding the hand of a receiver way before the ball gets to the players, in plain sight to everyone but the referee…….It was a big play by holding his left arm down , so that he couldn’t get but one hand on the ball and not able to bring it in. Wait , Philly fans dismiss this cause well like any fan they say it really doesnt matter to the game. But their 4 and 1 did and lost the game for them. It happened and yes it was big as that could have been a 4 points more. It is what it is!!! Bad spot for sure…..second spot bad for sure went Eagles way, but not one word on that …go figure. Things happened going against both teams and well if we would have lost it would be hard to swallow too.
by dubious on Nov 12, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no that was a bad call as well
its just that it didnt happen quite as much in crunch time… i hear what you are saying, but a 4th and one spot that was reviewed is apples and oranges from what you are talking about which is not reviewable
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 12, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I just feel the whole game is important
maybe I am the only one who thinks this way. I feel the first 15 minutes in a game are just as important as the final 15. Unless someone can explain how that is reasonable?
by dubious on Nov 12, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bad calls happen and I wouldn’t be as upset with this if it wasn’t reviewed. The fact is it was reviewed and they still got it wrong.
I don’t care if it was a first down or not they should have at least re-spotted the ball and re-measured. They owed us that, especially at a part of the field where there is a legitimate mark to judge on. If this were at some green spot in the field with no lines I can understand not being able to define a spot but this was pretty clear.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Nov 12, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
man guys I agree I can say it more than I already have.....
I would be upset but I would be more upset that my team didn’t play well enough , so that one play becomes huge. My beloved Cowboys have done things like this alot of late, so atleast I know how you feel :0
by dubious on Nov 12, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Example
See: Chargers vs Broncos 2008.
Or: Patriots vs Raiders 2001.
But you’re right, bad calls NEVER change the outcome of games.
by UnclaimedFright on Nov 12, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it killed our drive. we lost a timeout. and killed momentum.
it was HUGE! i agree with bye, dawk, im pretty sure we were tied 13-13 at the moment
by Manoovi on Nov 12, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there were many reasons we lost … this one probably has more weight than most because of not only the field position and momentum lost also the timeout/challenge and attitude loss.
It was HUGE! but there are 60 minutes in a game we could have made plays elsewhere.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Nov 12, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you, I'm not confident we score on that drive anyway, but it did rob us of a first down and a time out.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Nov 12, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And not only that, let’s say the Eagles proceed to go 3 and out… You punt and there’s another 40 yards of field position.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 12, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yup, field position was huge.
All said, Sheldon shouldn’t have bit that double move pump fake, he had unerneath help on that. But I guess its a natural thing.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Nov 12, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
Those officials sucked… At least I know calls like this (and everything other one in the game) will keep them out of the Refs playoff run, and Dallas won’t be able to use bad officiating as a crutch next time.
SUCK IT COWGIRLS, and next time publicly thank the refs.. someone tell Tom Brady to aswell.
by Sparki on Nov 12, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its not just the fact that we had to give the ball away
This also cost us our last timeout in a close game, this infuriates me I hope someone gets fired over this call.
by Tron79 on Nov 12, 2009 12:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This also cost us our last timeout in a close game
…and our last challenge.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 12, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what?
Blaming the refs makes us sound stupid. How about we just win outright and stop making excuses.
by strikeeagle on Nov 12, 2009 12:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We have every right to bitch about this.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 12, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bye dawk I know you have the game recorded
watch it, watch where the stick is at when they pull the measurement it just past the tip of the beak on the logo, the ball is 4 to 6 inches short of the beak where McNabb is laying, it still was not a first down. The ball should have moved forward 6 inches and you needed a foot.
These refs were horrible, they missed calls both ways, Samuels hanging on Williams arm in the end zone, ticky tacky push off call on Witten, missing the push of on the touchdown, ect-ect-
It’s a shame such a great game was called so poorly.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 12, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Countless people over at BTB even said they thought it was a first down.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 12, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm watching it right now,
I know you have it, watch it, the stick is right on the tip of the beak, just past it actually and there is 4 inches from the ball to the tip where McNabb finishes sliding down. It is still short. Poorly spotted but so was the come back rout to McCoy and they didn’t move it either. The refs didn’t move the ball when they both were clearly bad spots but the results would not have changed anything.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 12, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately I agree
and after it was photoshopped as accurately as possible
I found the images online at Igglesblog, so I dont take any credit for them but as much as I hated that we didn’t get the call, I don’t think we got the first down.
I’ve been saying that if we need to blow 2 timeouts for a few inches, that that is more on us, then it is the refs. Crucial plays like this, especially for a few inches, a strong team like we are should be able to get them undisputably.
by Team Serbia on Nov 12, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More people need to look at these images, take off their green tinted glasses, and understand that this is clear evidence. Even with the spot, McNabb still is short about 6 inches. Sorry.
by Zach22 on Nov 12, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
anyone can easily photoshop that in a false way
thats no proof at all
by Manoovi on Nov 12, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
see the ball?
see the yardstick?
See the yardstick past the beak?
see the ball past the beak? No, because it never went past the beak.
you don’t need the photo snap.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 12, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is from IgglesBlog. They’re not trying to make it look short. They bleed as green as we do.
by UnclaimedFright on Nov 12, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No
It was a first down. If you compare to where the sticks are at when the measure after the blown call, its a first down.
And even if it wasn’t, the Eagles till have a timeout remaining.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 12, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to add one more thing
For the Cowboys fans that preach that the refs missed PI calls and all that. Refs will miss calls, but you can’t compare it to us challenging the call, the refs taking a look at it from multiple angles and still deciding that they got it right. Obviously I don’t think we got the first down, but they still messed up the placement but you can’t compare a missed call and a missed call after it was under review. Two different things.
by Team Serbia on Nov 12, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think both teams got a bad game from the refs.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 12, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and if i'm not mistaken we would have lost that last Timeout
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 12, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He was pushed back before his elbow hit and should have been given forward progress.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 12, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bye dawk
the ball never crossed the beak, see above to see where the stick is at relative to the beak.
Never crossed the beak I promise.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 12, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t care where his elbow was down. He should have been given forward progress.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 12, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
are you talking about the inital surge before he left his feat?
because he slid down slowly onto his elbow, that is forward progress where his elbow hits the ground.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 12, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
did I say the ball never crossed the beak?
look above the stick is 4 inches past the beak. It’s not even close as in 4 to six inches short????
I can see your to bitter to look at it objectivity, See you soon at BTB, sorry you see it that way, once again we disagree.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 12, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Since when was Dallas the Music City?
Oh wait, you’re another frontrunner?
Got it.
by UnclaimedFright on Nov 12, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
live in Nashville,
a fan long before there was a team here. Met Ed Too Tall Jones and Randy white at 5 years old, they actually knew my pee wee coach and they played with us one day, i was a fan ever since.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 12, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha...
I’ll give Musiccitynorm a pass on being bandwagon. It’s reasonable enough for him to be a Cowboys’ fan being from Tennessee. I’ll allow it, since they didn’t have a franchise there when he began watching football.
For now, let’s just stick with making his tainted win less enjoyable.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 12, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There is nothing you can do
to make this win less enjoyable for Dallas fans, in fact you whinning and complaining about the refs in this game makes it even more enjoyable to me
by sduncan24 on Nov 13, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed he should have been given forward progress. And Musiccitynorm I don’t know what you are arguing the league has stated they would have moved the ball? there is no argument here.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Nov 12, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the ball should have been moved and remeasured,
that I agree with, but it was not a first down. It was still short by four inches, see above.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 12, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see your fancy pictures and nice work but I also have a tv where I can pause and there are other caps where the ball is further forward than where you chose to stop it. The fact is once contacted the play is given that spot then can only move forward not backward on the way to the ground, therefor McNabb should have been given forward progress which would have been a first down.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Nov 12, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've watched it a dozen times and I don't see it,
thats not my picture, its an eagles fan picture.
watch the beak and the ball and tell me he passed the beak with the ball, look at it one time and tell me what you see.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 12, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also he slides down and forward to a stop so
i don’t get it.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 12, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At the end
He gets pushed back by a Cowboys defender. Not a huge amount, but then again, 4-6 inches isn’t huge anyway (that’s what she said)
by tanman5 on Nov 12, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
forward progress only
applies when the runner is moved back by the defense, not when he slides back on his own. He was not pushed backwards and slid on his own. Not a case for forward progress
by sduncan24 on Nov 13, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And Musiccitynorm I don’t know what you are arguing the league has stated they would have moved the ball? there is no argument here.
(nodding in agreement)
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 12, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that it should have been a first down. I also agreed that I dont believe you lost the game on that particular play.
Do you agree that Sameul go away with a horrible pass interference in the end zone that every person say it except the refs? Do agree that could have been a difference in the game getting 7 points instead of 3? I mean I agree with you cause I am a realist but are you only a biased perosn?
by dubious on Nov 12, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dont post the same argument twice in the same post you troll
it makes you look stupid and one dimensional
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 12, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry it looked that way I was replying to bye dawk and it put me way down here lol
but thanks for the insults ;)
by dubious on Nov 12, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not insulting you, just commenting on your behavior
Nobody likes it when someone who isnt normally here comes over to stir up trouble after a loss.
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 13, 2009 8:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Roy Williams should be strong enough to pull his arm around or at least make an effort to draw the call he just went with it and expected to get the call without making a legit effort to catch the ball. As a referee I’m not giving a player a call when he tries to take the easy way out.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Nov 12, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
are you serious? Now I have heard it all.......he didnt pull his arm out of the
guys grasp hard enough to warrant a call? This is good material so I can give people an idea of the football knowledge going on in here. Still are you serious with that comment? Just thought I would check again lol Seriously? lmao
by dubious on Nov 12, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah whodie thats a stretch man
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 13, 2009 8:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
a stretch yes … the truth also yes. I ref football/basketball games and I know for a fact that refs do not give guys calls if they don’t make an effort to make a play.
I’m not advocating it, it was a bad non call but these things happen and you can’t just assume your going to get the call.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Nov 13, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
because putting up a hand
and getting that hand on the ball was not “trying” to catch it? The is ludicrous if you actually believe it.
by sduncan24 on Nov 13, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
THis isn’t the case of “us” blaming the refs.
It’s the guy in charge of the NFL’s officiating.
by JasonB on Nov 12, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for realizing now that everyone fell forward, but they lost yardage that makes a whole lot of sense good in game call… _
I agree with strikeeagle tho, if we took care of the rest of the stuff the refs don’t matter
by Eaglesfan10 on Nov 12, 2009 12:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
true
you and strikeeagle are correct we did miss other plays on the field. But this play we “made” but were never given a chance to continue. A lot of peole say don’t blame the ref’s and I agree. BUT, when they have instant replay and still get the call incorrect then I say we can blame the ref’s for this wrong call.
Now we may not have still won the game…a fumble, interception, etc. could still have happened. But don’t begin to tell me you’re not thinking…“what could have been…?”
by slandog on Nov 12, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You all remember the play… Last week, at around midfield Donovan McNabb ran a QB sneak on 4th down
how could we forget.. lol
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Nov 12, 2009 12:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
As obviously disgusting as this call was, what I considered to be the best part was: 2nd & 1: McCoy. 3rd & 1: McCoy. 4th & 1: McNabb.
And while these calls were happening I was seething with anger screaming at the tv “THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE A WEAVER! FOR THIS FUCKING SITUATION SPECIFICALLY,” and my dad was equally upset, saying “With the number of times that they had run Weaver in the game, if they lined him up in the backfield all alone and ran play action, everyone would bite- they’d have to. There would be at least two wide open receivers downfield.”
It’s really not a complicated game, is it?
And what really made it for me was that on a later possession, we had a 3rd & 1, and holy crap, we ran Weaver who basically picked Smith up with one arm and used him as a human battering ram to drive forward for three yards. No fuss, no muss. Because that’s what a real fullback does, and would have done in the earlier situation if only Reid had had any inkling of what he was doing and called for it.
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 1:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Reminds me..
of Buckhalter 4th and Goal vs the Bears last season. As we all know, later overview angles showed Buckhalter clearly got in the endzone. Once again, thanks NFL.
http://football.realgm.com/src_teamarticle/452/20081112/no_freedom_in_philadelphia/?ewrd=1
by Tony4251 on Nov 12, 2009 1:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That predictability has left many to forecast that the Eagles will be the only NFC East team to sit out the postseason for the second-straight year.
Lol, they got that one wrong
Two thirds of the earth are covered by water, the other third is covered by Dawkins
by greeninireland on Nov 12, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the worst one
was Westbrook in the Saints divisiongal game… I never really blame the refs but they fucked us hardcore on a LOT of calls that year..that SB sucked too….Bears vs Colts? wtf
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I cant believe that I am struggling to remember the call you're speakin of...
I can only remember Scott Young from that game
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 12, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh...
Scott Young. Surprise surprise… You know who he was filling in for? Shawn Andrews The player who shall not be named.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 12, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Coincidence???
Same ref screwed us over in that game last year. I’m even more pissed after Watching this. Fire Walt (Donaghy) Coleman now!!! http://www.football-refs.com/nfl-referees-by-season/2008-crews/week-04/
by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 12, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WELL NO SHIT!!!
“I think I’d move it,”
If Life Gives You Lemons, Just Say FUCK IT and Bail.
by igottachubby on Nov 12, 2009 1:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
fhqwhgads
“fhqwhgads” – man, I haven’t thought about that for years, what a great username. This might not make sense to a lot of people, I feel obliged to let everyone know the origin of that one, and the greatness of H*R.
by pdxGreen on Nov 12, 2009 1:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Personally, Trogdor will always hold a special place in my heart.
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
by IronHank on Nov 12, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
how can you not like a dragon who burninates the countryside
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Nov 12, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what is this Honestarrunner you speak of
:)
Let's get it Birds.
by homestar2281 on Nov 12, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What did he say about the pass interference...
….on Roy Williams, but Asante Samuels in the endzone? Huh? Eh? chirp chirp chipr
by Cash_BSR on Nov 12, 2009 2:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How about the missed PI in the red zone
on Avant? CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP
How many playoffs in the past 15 years? CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP x 1000000000000000000
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"I know you are but what am I"
geeeeezzz
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 12, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its f unny how all the cow fags are posting here now
They’ve been dormant here and they finally get a big win on us and they are lurking here like they’ve actually been relevant all these years
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I only come here to see what bye dawk is doing
he spends a lot of time on our board and he’s generally respected there.
Much respect for the eagles from me, good team, but so are the Cowboys and your team underestimated them.
1/2 a season left and lots of things could happen from then to now, and yes injuries do matter unlike last year. small jab there in case you missed it.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 12, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Keep in mind
We also lost to the Raiders by the same margin. So beating us doesn’t prove you’re a good team, it proves you’re capable of beating a team that also lets itself get beat by the Raiders.
by tanman5 on Nov 12, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
underestimated
Really, i did not see anything in that game that suggested the Eagles underestimated Dallas, a team that had won three in a row and whose offense was on fire offensively?? Please prove to me how the Eagles underestimated Dallas? Because even though they lost, i certainly did not see that.
by PhilsForever on Nov 13, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They’re all still seriously butthurt over 44-6. We emasculated them, so now they have to pretend like a 4 point win = a 38 point asskicking.
by UnclaimedFright on Nov 12, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and its November
Dallas will fold again guaranteed
And i dont need photoshop for that
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 12, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And i dont need photoshop for that
ROFL
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Nov 12, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
That was hilarious! When our offense comes to play FOREAL next Eagles Dallas game, it will this past game will mean nuttn’!
And thats Real Talk!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 12, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really know how much you sound like a baby right now? Dallas beat your team in a hard fought game that could have gone either way. Expect the same next time. For the record, only 2 of the last 5 games have been blow outs between the teams. I’ll take the chances that the next will be a tough battle.
by Zach22 on Nov 12, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm
ok
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 12, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hard fought
i thought it was pretty shitty playing on both of our parts. if you think they cowboys put forth a good, strong effort, then i am definitely not worried about our next match up
Eagles.
by #1EaglesFan on Nov 12, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True That
+1
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 12, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whoa...hard fought?
what game were you watching? I thought the eagles played like shit. Maybe the cowboys tried hard…but for your sake, I hope they played like shit too, otherwise they really are bad.
by eagleyosh on Nov 12, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lmao do you all believe the crap you are typing?
Only the cowboys tried? and the Eagles played like crap? Thats the only way the precious Eagles can lose right? How can you or anyone not laugh at the crap you all say? Watch ultimate will have a comeback as I have read many where he is a tough guy and try and insult me. It will stick to almost everything I have read that he has wrote !!!!
by dubious on Nov 12, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmmm...........
umm…nevermind, Its not worth my time! Next!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 12, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ummm .....Does all philly fans try and ........oh hell what's the use
NEXT !!!!!
by dubious on Nov 13, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
um ok
Whatever u say!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 13, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
damn that's what I was gonna say lmao
next lol
by dubious on Nov 13, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right Right, Sure Sure
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 13, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you misunderstood me
I think both teams played poorly, as evidenced by all the penalties. also…
Watch ultimate will have a comeback as I have read many where he is a tough guy and try and insult me. It will stick to almost everything I have read that he has wrote !!!!
…huh?
by eagleyosh on Nov 13, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ultimatefighter always does the big internet guy comebacks on here
so I was waiting for one of his usuals lol
by dubious on Nov 13, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is this around the same time McNabb pukes again in the biggest game? Because, since the past matters so much to the present time and all…
by Zach22 on Nov 12, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure Sure
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 12, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take McNabb over Romo anyday
Name a playoff… oh never mind
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 12, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep..McNabb doesn't have any Superbowl Rings, but..
Refresh my memory…..How many Super Bowl Rings does Tony Romo have.? How many playoff wins does Romo have.? How many NFC Championship games has Romo played in? Help me out here, all I’m gettin is a goose egg! For the common man, goose egg = ZERO! But go ahead..think about it. Take your time.!!!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 13, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Romo has no Superbowls after being a starter for 3 years.......
He still has time as most QB’S take time ….its a fact …..next!!!!!
by dubious on Nov 13, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whats up with the NEXT!
It’s pointless now…U killed! Say it 50 times if u want. U just sound immature as u keep sayin it! I said it once! That’s it! No need to run it into the ground!
C’mon man.! Its over man relax!!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 13, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just bustin ur Chops up there..But in all Seriousness
Im look forward to playin the Cowboys again. This time hoping our offense actually shows up and DMAC steps up to the plate!
Division Rivalries..u gotta love’em!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 13, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Romo has no Superbowls after being a starter for 3 years…….
you are right… he is young, but its more the way he chokes and always finds a way to lose in the playoffs or late in the season. In my opinion he is the exact opposite of Tom Brady… Brady has that look, like" We’re gonna find a way to get the win". Romo looks like a deer in the headlights as if he’s wondering how he will lose it this time
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 13, 2009 8:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree he is not that mature in big games.....I don't put the Giants playoff game on him
cause he did all he could……Crayton should’ve caught the ball and thats what he is paid to do. All in all when a team loses big games it always goes back to the QB. Do I agree with it all being put on the QB? No, not one bit. But thats how today’s NFL games are being portrayed. In the philly case, I have seen when they play badly people always seem to go after Mcnabb. Thats hard for me to swallow and I differ in the opinion because there are 52 other men on a 53 man roster that have a little something to do with the outcome of games as well.
by dubious on Nov 13, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eagles fans always full of class....
….you guys should all be neutered.
by Cash_BSR on Nov 12, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
at least we don't inbreed.
see, I can do stupid stereotypes, too.
by eagleyosh on Nov 12, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Nov 12, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His comment was not based on stereotypes
but all the comments made on this thread
by sduncan24 on Nov 13, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You should all be spayed.
"THIS IS NOT COLLEGE NO MORE. THIS IS THE BIG MAN SPORT." ~Crazy Lady on BGN forums
by southjersey89 on Nov 12, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How many Superbowls have the Eagles EVER had?
Losers!!!
by Cash_BSR on Nov 12, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
3
Championships that is. Super Bowl wins are still championships, one is not more important that the other.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 12, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldnt even bother them bdawk4ever!
They’re not here for any real positive reason! I wouldn’t waste your time.
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 12, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
shocking
a cowgirls fan who signed up yesterday wants to come on our blog and try not to look like an idiot. well, you failed. i bet that IF you were alive during the superbowl wins for dallas, your age could be measured in 1 digit. same goes with the last time you all won a playoff game. you’re a joke, go elsewhere.
Eagles.
by #1EaglesFan on Nov 12, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
a cowboyy fan who talks crap to me gets no respect
the only thing we hear is super bowls… That was 14 YEARS AGO……………………..
AND NOT ONE… NOT ONE PLAYOFF WINS SINCE
how many TVs have you broken in that amount of time?
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 12, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahahhaa
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 13, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can show facts that almost every team in the NFL has hit a dry spell of no playoff wins in their existance.
Dallas is having thiers big time after all those glorious years from the 60’s to the mid 90’s . For me I have watched every game and will continue cause well I am a true Dallas fan. As I pray at night , all I want is for Dallas to win one playoff game …..I want a superbowl but we need to start off with small goals lol
by dubious on Nov 13, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ok
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 13, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just trying to lighten to mood with all the gripping we do at times :)
by dubious on Nov 13, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hear ya
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 13, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have watched every game and will continue cause well I am a true Dallas fan
Being a fan in bad times is respectable. I can respect that
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 13, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We have a right to bitch
But this didn’t lose the game
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2009 2:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No, but is damn sure helped
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
by IronHank on Nov 12, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea it did
it hurt…but still
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
not one play decides a game
unfortunately though this play cost us possession and our last time out and a challenge
Let's get it Birds.
by homestar2281 on Nov 12, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh great, if the call was right in the game i would be happy, this makes me a little bitter, but a least they recognize the mistake
eff you we winning anyway
by eagleswin on Nov 12, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Even if it was not a first down by moving the spot of the ball forward we should have at least kept our timeout….. no?
The road to victory!
by jayt on Nov 12, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
no,
Collinsworth explains that on the first challenge on McCoy, you still lose the challenge if you don’t get the first down. That seems stupid to me.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 12, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s how it works… You get 2 challenges. If you use both, and both challenges result in a call reversal, you get an additional 3rd challenge. However, if a team uses both challenges and doesn’t get BOTH right, that’s it – No more challenges.
So had the refs gotten the call right and moved the spot on the McNabb sneak (which would have made the challenge successful), they still would be out of challenges since they were unsuccessful on the McCoy challenge.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 12, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but they would have retained the timeout.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Nov 12, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well that was the important part down the stretch.
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
by IronHank on Nov 12, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice to be right
Its nice to shove this in those stupid Cowboy fan faces who were arguing that this call was right.
Even if it wasn’t a first down (and my review of the images shows it was), the Eagles still would’ve had a time out. That’s a huge deal.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 12, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Of course it was a blown call
It’s obvious. That is what happen when you have the same moron who made the Tuck Rule in 2001 Playoffs…
Dude should’ve been canned a while ago.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
by Imp on Nov 12, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I figured it out!!!!!
Someone forgot to check the Ref’s hat…
by Sparki on Nov 12, 2009 3:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
For the win!
Nice work!
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 12, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Real Talk!!!!
real talk, real talk, real talk, real talk, real talk, real taaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllkkkkk
World Series- check
NBA Title- check
Stanley Cup- check
Superbowl- In progress...
by Route36 on Nov 12, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i am sadly missing this real talk joke
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 12, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously...
me too.
World Series- check
NBA Title- check
Stanley Cup- check
Superbowl- In progress...
by Route36 on Nov 12, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they are mocking the dude below me, RealTalk32?
World Series- check
NBA Title- check
Stanley Cup- check
Superbowl- In progress...
by Route36 on Nov 12, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Read this post … or just the last sentence … then look for Bye, Dawks Comment on that same post then you’ll catch up.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Nov 12, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, well thank you then Bye, Dawk.. and thanks for the info Whoodie
by Sparki on Nov 13, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Got it. thanks.
World Series- check
NBA Title- check
Stanley Cup- check
Superbowl- In progress...
by Route36 on Nov 13, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
O Snap hahaha
I wouldnt be surprised haha….And that’s Real Talk!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 12, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Real Talk hahahahahah
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 12, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
awesome.
Watch this play again and the line judge coming up from the bottom of the screen is at least half a yard further forward than the guy coming down I wish they went with his spot.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Nov 12, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now that I’ve thought about this and watched the replay entirely too much, I am thinking McNabb did a pretty shitty job here. He never extends his arms. Yes it’s risking a fumble but it’s 4th down. Had he extended his arms he makes the 1st with ease.
Who am I kidding they probably still would have blown the call.
The road to victory!
by jayt on Nov 12, 2009 3:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good Game - Hard call
I can’t say whether or not it was a first down or if it would have mattered. The pictures shown as proof are not concrete enough only because the pictures being matched to one another are the incorrect pictures. There was forward progress before Mc Nabb’s elbow hit the ground. So It might be better if we can get the pic where forward progress is displayed then compare it to the sticks. Not that it would matter much now but it would be nice to see.
by Luis Gorres on Nov 12, 2009 4:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
BS - Easy Call
Calling it on the field is hard, but he had all the time in the world to review.. he should have made the right (and then easy) call that the ball was not placed where it was taken to.. and moved it. If that position was a First Down or not doesn’t matter, at the very least he stole a time out… Reversing the call and moving the ball doesn’t mean first down (that depends on where he puts it), but it does mean we don’t get charged that last timeout…
by Sparki on Nov 12, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Basically
We beat ourselves and lost to a mediocre team. The refs didn’t help, and if a couple of things went the other way we could have won this thing by about two touchdowns.
But we didn’t. And you know what? It hurts, but this team needed a wake-up call. I’d rather lose to the Cowboys and play like a team that is capable of beating the Saints than continue to sleepwalk through the season.
by tanman5 on Nov 12, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
One play that sticks out in my mind is-
and this is actually a compliment to demarcus ware, but if he doesnt hit mcnabb’s arm as he threw that bomb to maclin its 6 points. Maclin split the D perfectly. Literally 1/10 of a second makes the difference there
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 12, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, Dallas is totally mediocre….hence why they are 2 plays away from being 8-0 instead of being 6-2 and on top of the division.
Is it that hard for you guys to admit that both Dallas and Philly are good teams, and BOTH will make the post season?
by Zach22 on Nov 12, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Because Dallas isn’t that good. They are are decent 9-7 type team. But they are not “2 plays away from being 8-0”. That’s like the saying the Eagles are 3 plays away from being 8-0.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 12, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
“That’s like the saying the Eagles are 3 plays away from being 8-0.”
Can’t argue that!!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 12, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thats a retarded argument dude
in that case, we are one good spot away from beating you.
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 12, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wake up call?
Should that not have been losing to the Raiders? Dallas is not a mediocre team, its obvious they are a very talented football team, come on now.
by PhilsForever on Nov 13, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whine a lil more
Philly had 2nd and 1 and didn’t make it…3rd and 1 and didn’t make it…4th and 1 and didn’t make it. There were WAY more bad calls that went Philly’s way. The PI on Witten?? PLEASE!!! The NON PI on Maclin? That was worse…the non PI on Asante Samuel where he tried to arrest Roy Williams in the end zone? Philly had their chances to win and didn’t get it done. Plain and simple
by Allen78704 on Nov 12, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Actually the point is that they DID make on 4th and 1. Jeez. Again 44-6 playoff type game > 20-16 November game. Remember last year the first game was also lost by 4 points.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 12, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How true! +1
Remember last year the first game was also lost by 4 points.
But I’m tellin u man, dont waste ur time with these “Dallas Fans”! U can’t take them seriously. There only talkn cuz they beat us last game. If they lost..they would have no argument! They’ve been hold this in since we KILLED them 44-6 last season. This is their celebration! And I find it very amusing!!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 12, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea
We lost both first games against Dallas and NY last season.. but won the “must wins” later.
by Sparki on Nov 12, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Foreal man
It’s all about how u finish!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 13, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There were WAY more bad calls that went Philly’s way. The PI on Witten?? PLEASE!!! The NON PI on Maclin? That was worse…the non PI on Asante Samuel where he tried to arrest Roy Williams in the end zone?
Yeah, except those calls were never officially proven to be incorrect in a public statement by the Vice Freakin President of NFL Officiating.
I’m not going to sit here and act like the Eagles victory was a lock if that challenge overturned the play, but I definitely think it’s bullshit that we never got the chance to find out.
"THIS IS NOT COLLEGE NO MORE. THIS IS THE BIG MAN SPORT." ~Crazy Lady on BGN forums
by southjersey89 on Nov 12, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you answered my point as we never got a chance to find out the outcome if the Samuel PI was called right.....thanks for proving our point
even if you never meant too. See how easy it is not to be biased when in the same sense you are being selfish to calls going against you?
by dubious on Nov 12, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but you still missed my point. The “Samuel PI” was never publicly acknowledged, nor was it admitted that the called was botched. So, in a sense, that one exists only in the minds of Cowboys fans.
The 4th and 1 call was addressed and explained as incorrect, while the Samuel PI was not. That is the major difference between the two, so I really didn’t prove your point at all.
"THIS IS NOT COLLEGE NO MORE. THIS IS THE BIG MAN SPORT." ~Crazy Lady on BGN forums
by southjersey89 on Nov 13, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bogus call. give the ball to girls @ midfield with the team all pumped up. next drive td to austin. mcnabb aint the best qb for coming back. it was a costly miscall.
by Bugzy on Nov 12, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Waaaayyhhhhh wu wu Waaaayyhhhhh
Get over it. If they had played better, this play would not have made any difference!
by Green Eagle on Nov 12, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I guess we’ll have to blow out every team from now on, just in case a pivotal call doesn’t go our way.
"THIS IS NOT COLLEGE NO MORE. THIS IS THE BIG MAN SPORT." ~Crazy Lady on BGN forums
by southjersey89 on Nov 12, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really man...Really!
Waaaayyhhhhh wu wu Waaaayyhhhhh
Are u serious! Wow.
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
by Realtalk32 on Nov 12, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you aren't an easgles fan
you are a cowboys fan who just set up an account today so you could pretend to be an eagles fan and talk shit. seriously, do something with your life. maybe you’ll even get a real-life big boy job like us.
Eagles.
by #1EaglesFan on Nov 12, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what a turd
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 12, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OK SERIOUSLY...
LETS GET THIS OUT IN THE OPEN… HOW MANY OF YOU TROLLING DALLAS FANS ARE FROM THE DALLAS/FORT WORTH AREA? FROM THE THE STATE OF TEXAS? I’LL EVEN GIVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT IF YOU ARE FROM SOUTH OF TENNESSEE… FAMILY ORIGINALLY FROM DALLAS? HECK, I WILL EVEN BE COOL WITH THE FACT THAT YOU’RE FROM VIRGINIA AND YOUR DAD WAS A COWBOYS FAN AND HE SUCKERED YOU IN…
EVEN WITH ALL OF THAT…. MY BET IS ZERO!!!!
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 12, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have lived in Mesquite, Texas my whole life excluding 2 years when I stayed at a beach house in crystal beach. Incase , you dont know which I am sure of this, Mesquite is in SE Dallas county. So I guess you lose the bet right :)
by dubious on Nov 12, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well good for you man!
I have no problems with you being a flamingly flambouant dallas fan.
But i think you know what kind of people i am talking about.
Dont Disrespect the Level
by 700 Level on Nov 13, 2009 8:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
YOU ARE AN IDIOT
I have argued this with ByeDawk :( so many times, this is the most retarded argument in the world and the only people that seem to be truly bothered by the number of Cowboys fans spread out across the country is you Eagles fans. GET OVER IT!
by sduncan24 on Nov 13, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow you all need to grow up
If we need to blow 2 timeouts for a few inches that is on us. Are we actually going to blame the refs? It wasn’t even a first down. I’m more worried about the fact that we can’t get a few inches then I am on blaming the refs. We played bad, Dallas played better, end of story.
Even with an extra timeout, Reid still opts for a FG instead of going for it on 4th down, and Dallas needs an extra first down that seemed like it would come with ease how the defense was playing at the end. Even if they don’t get it, we’d get the ball back with like 30 seconds left and attempt to drive down the field with no timeouts.
Let it go, both teams played bad but we played worse. Focus on San Diego and hope to god we don’t get into another 4th and inches if the game is close, cause its embarrasing how we can’t convert those.
by Team Serbia on Nov 13, 2009 12:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Serbia
The point here is we can convert those, in fact short yardage has been awesome for the eagles this year apart from the dallas game, they have converted like 70 percent this year, so its actually against the norm if they DONT convert, hence even more frustration with such a pivotal missed call.
by PhilsForever on Nov 13, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When it matters
It doesn’t seem like we convert. I watched the video of that play a million times, and the ball never breaks that end of the beak. From the pictures we can see that the first down marker is about 6-8 inches from the end of the beak. This play didn’t lose us the game, not even close.
by Team Serbia on Nov 13, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you agree...
The spot should have been moved? If you agree that, then we lost a very valuable time out, and a chance to remeasure for the first down, to say this call did not affect the game is to be completely blind, to me it is blatantly obvious it affected the outcome of the game whether it would have been a first down or not.
by PhilsForever on Nov 13, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tell me how it affects it?
I do believe the spot should have been moved, so yes we save a time out. How would it change the outcome much? After the first play they ran, Reid would have called a time out, as its the logical thing to do. Romo still completed his pass to Witten for a first down, and therefore game over. But lets say things change with the timeout, and they are forced to punt. We get the ball back with less than a minute and no timeouts. Do you think we would have scored a TD? Mcnabbs not known for being clutch, but lets looks past that. Dallas would run a prevent defense and disable a long play. So barring some practically impossible drive, we still lose.
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