Eagles/Giants Red Zone Report
by JasonB on Oct 31, 2009 6:21 PM EDT
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This look at the Eagles' Red Zone performance is brought to you by Comcast and the new NFL Red Zone channel
Normally, I do these red zone reports much earlier in the week as a look back at how the Eagles performed inside the 20s... Problem was, the Eagles never got into the red zone last week. Their points came off defensive TDs, big plays, and longer field goals.
Zero for Zero...
So rather than focus on the Eagles, I figured I'd use this space to point out how poor the Giants are faring in the red zone so far this year. Their defense is ranked dead last in the NFL and their offense is 27th in red zone efficiency. Hopefully those will be weakness the Eagles can exploit. For an explanation of why the Giants defense specifically has been struggling, I reached out earlier this week to Ed at the Giants blog Big Blue View
It's really an interesting question. I know Tom Coughlin talked about it this week, and he doesn't have an answer. It really comes down to this -- the Giants are No. 1 in the league on defense in terms of yards allowed per game at 262. But, they really have not been that good. The better teams have been able to exploit the Giants weaknesses. First and foremost that means finding safety C.C. Brown -- Phillips' replacement -- and throwing the ball at him. He is horrific in coverage, if you can call what he does coverage. Of more concern, though, is the defensive line. The Giants are trying to pressure with four quite often, and that group is under-achieving. So, I don't think the problem is specific to the red zone. I think the red zone numbers show you that this defense has not been as dominant as its reputation, and ranking, might lead you to believe.
Comcast is carrying the new NFL Red Zone channel.
NFL Red Zone lets you follow all the red zone action on NFL Sunday as it happens. When a team gets inside the twenty, the network cuts to that game. Not only is this cool for any big NFL fan, it would be awesome for out of market Eagles fans that can't watch the games. You're essentially getting the best parts of every Eagles game live for only a couple bucks a month as opposed to having to shell out the several hundred bucks for the NFL ticket.
We all love big plays... but let's all hope that this week the Eagles make a few more appearances on the NFL Red Zone channel than they have in weeks passed...
They don't ever break for commercials and the action literally never stops. They don't just limit it to red zone trips either... I was watching last weekend and they would show any game live if no team happened to be in the red zone. This is probably the best thing ever invented for an NFL fan that's looking for something to flip to when the Eagles game goes to commercials...
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The injuries are definitely killing that team defensively
Lets just hope we can make it to the red zone this game.. Anyone know how many times we had the ball in the red zone the past two games? I don’t think it was any, haha. Maybe one or so.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Oct 31, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Phillips injury hurts
because he was developing into a very good player and the G-men lack depth at saftey but the Giants have won the past two seasons with average safties so they are used to not having a big time guy back there. The biggest problem is the D-Line. Yea Canty’s injured but they still have guys that are expected to perform they just are not executing. I think they spent their offseason reading press clipings about themselves. Tuck is playing well considered his shoulder is still banged up from the Dallas game but the rest of the unit has been pretty bad. Kiwi is ok but is on the small side and gets pushed around a bit and is an average pass rusher. Osi stinks, he can’t stop the run nor can he rush the passer he just charges upfield and gets pushed out on everyplay. The tackles are getting no push in passing situations and are getting blown of the ball in running situations. The Giants can’t stop the run nor rush the passer, it’s exposing our LB’s and our saftey’s in the passing game. Webseter and T. Thomas are playing good at corner. All McNabb has to do is play good for two quarters and the Eagles will put up 24 and win.
Also Bill Sheriain looks to be following in the footsteps of Rod Rust & Jonny Lynn. Who are they you ask? The great D-Coordinators the Giants hired after great ones like Bellicheck and John Fox left for head coaching jobs. I don’t belive neither man was a coordinator in the NFL after their stint with the Giants. With young WR’s and the Giants’s spending money on Defensive FA’s the D was supposed to carry them a bit this year but so far it has been a bad unit, I don’t care what the stats say.
Long story short, the injuries are hurting but not as much as advertised. The bottom line is the D is just not playing well, especically the line. It started at the end of last season and has continued through the preseason until now. We still have, Tuck, Kiwi, Osi, Robbins, Cofield, and Bernard. Thats more than we had last year for whatever reason it’s a bad unit right now and I don’t expect it to get better by Sunday 1:00.
by Landeta on Oct 31, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
The line carried you guys for the past 2 years.. Offensively AND defensive line. Eli is a great QB when the running game is firing on all cylinders and the dfense is off balance. Now that the running game is slipping Ds are pinning their ears back and Eli is not a good qb under pressure —esp with young WRs.
and like you said the d-line isn’t getting the pressure they used to which made everyone else look great.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Oct 31, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's upsetting as a Giant fan
is that they have a talented front on D somethings is just missing. I do believe there is more to the Canty signing than just adding depth. Freddie Robbins is going to be 33 and is a FA at the end of the season, I don’t think the Giants believe they can get much more out of him and thats showing a bit on the field this year. Also Barry Cofield is a FA at the end of the year and I think the jury is still out on him. These guys have underpreformed badely this year.
In regards to Eli your right on but I don’t think Eli nor the Offensive coaches want to belive that. They are hell bent on proving they are the Colts. Lots of deep balls even on third and short situations. Giants should do quick short passes to Smith and Boss to move the sticks instead it’s bombs away. I beIieve the young WR’s are talentaed and maybe next year or the year after they will be a real threat but right now they lack the consistancy which is expected for a young group. I guarantee you they try and throw deep tommorow and will keep using this strategey until it beats the Eagles which might not happen until some time in 2010 or 2011 when Manningham is more consistant and Nicks is fully up to speed. The Giants only hope on Sunday is McNabb just plays awful and some wierd plays propel the Giants to victory, kick returns, blocked FG returns. Which is always a possiblity when these two teams meet.
by Landeta on Oct 31, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a dismal outlook
To be honest, we really don’t know what we have on defense at all.. We still haven’t proven we can stop the TE and the RB, so we’ll see what we have…
As far as McNabb he’s playing his worst football right now. Happy feet, bad throws, poor accuracy — the works. The line isn’t playing well either, so I’m really scared about this one.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Oct 31, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
the Giants never use their TE’s even though that might be a matchup advantage. Like Ried our coaches can be so stubborn about sticking to a certain system. For you guys it’s throwing 40 times a game for us it’s throwing deep balls to the outside WR’s and not using our TE’s and abbandoning the running game. Boss was open all day last year in the playoff game and was beating Bradley a lot yet I think we only threw to him 2 or 3 times. For some reason Eli and Gillbrith think one on one matchups with inexperienced undersized WR’s against two of the best cover corners in the League on passing plays that take 3 to 4 seconds to develop against a blitzing Defense is the best way to go. Why not use a quality TE and slot WR over the middle to create missmatches against a banged up LB core and some young saftey’s to move the sticks to keep drives going and keep your underachieving D off the field.
Trust me won’t happen. Bombs away Sunday.
by Landeta on Nov 1, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Lets just hope we can make it to the red zone this game”
Ill fix that for you
Lets just hope we can make it to out of our own red zone this game
Seriously, if this team cant move the ball today, were toast. We cant just rely on the big plays every game (see Oakland). This is becoming very concerning.
by philiafan14364 on Nov 1, 2009 8:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WOW
It seems as if both teams are having the same problem. Lets rely on our young fast WR’s to make every play for us even if our QB’s are not in-sync and throwing the ball all over the place. Don’t worry the Giants throw bombs on 3rd and short and our saftey’s suck so if your conrners cover well and the blitz get’s to Eli even a little it should be an easy Eagles win. God forbid the Giants use their talented, sure handed TE agiainst some back up LB’s and young safteys. Donnovan needs to play awful, I mean Tony Romo awful (3 picks one for a TD) for the Giants D to have any success today.
by Landeta on Nov 1, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, easy answer as far as the offensive red zone struggles go for the Giants:
Plaxico.
"He wasn't an astronaut! He was a comedian, and he was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife!"
by Rumplestiltskin02 on Oct 31, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True
but belive it or not the Giants WR’s have 13 TD’s this year which is I believe is already more than all of their WR had last year. A lot of it has been against garbage teams and some of of these TD’s have been from outside the Red Zone but still they’ve been better than expected.
The Giants stunk in the Red Zone last year and the year before even with Plax but they do miss that jump ball to him epecailly against the Eagles. Plax was never as good against anybody else other than the Eagles for some reason. The Giants do not utalize Boss enough in the Red Zone. He’s a big body and has good hands but they never throw to him in the Red Zone.
by Landeta on Nov 1, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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