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The Defensive Fullback

Chris Gocong.  

I must admit I have a soft spot for the dude.  So often vilified by many of us fans, Chris gets nothing but ignored in weekly media sessions.  The fluff piece on PE.com about his volunteer work at a Voorhees Animal shelter really made me want him to be a good player.  

There was an article a while back where Gocong describes himself as the Defensive Fullback (Brookover), in the article Gocong says that he can have a great game and not even show up once in the stat sheet.  Everytime somebody blasts Gocong, I think about that article and wish I could offer up video evidence of what the heck he was talking about.  Thanks to the "Anatomy of a Play" that they posted on PE.com today, I've got it.  

The play in question was Spoon's strip sack.  The video quality they post on PE.com isn't great, and you have to watch a bunch of stuff before you get to the play in question so I link you to NFL.com instead.  I watched this play several times and will outline what happened after the jump.

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The Eagles come out in a basic 4-3 look with the standard personnel.  Parker, Patterson, Bunkley, Cole, Gocong, Witherspoon, Jordan, Samuel, Brown, Mikell, and Harris.  

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Just prior to the snap, Mikell and Gocong run up to the pressure the strong side of Washington's formation.  Gocong moves up to become almost a 5th Defensive Lineman and Mikell replaces Gocong as the 3rd LB.

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When the Ball is snapped, both Gocong and Mikell rush the passer, Cooley and the WR's release deep, and Spoon goes slightly delayed through the gap Mikell and Gocong attack.  

Theplay_medium

This play worked for a couple of reasons:

1) Washington's LT bit on Trent's rush fake and essentially took himself out of the play.  

2) Clinton Portis (in the diagram above, he's the back with no arrows) chose to help out up top where JP and Mikell were getting ridden off by Washington's RT and FB.  

3) Chris Gocong engaged and sealed off the Redskin's guard, almost like you would hope a fullback would in order to open up a hole on a running play.  Because of Gocong's block (if you will) a gigantic gap opened in the Redskins' offensive line for Spoon to rush through completely untouched.  Portis made the wrong read or this might not have been a sack at all, but hey let's take what we can get.

Anyway, this is a perfect example of a play where Gocong doesn't get a number, but he absolutely contributed meaningfully to the play's outcome.

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Well Done

I’ve often thought that Gocong doesn’t deserve all the crap he gets, and this is an excellently conceived and executed post to that effect. Interesting, to boot. Thanks for this.

by DSmith215 on Oct 29, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice article

This shows that Gocong is truly an effective force on the defense and is often overlooked.

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by kingmcnabb5 on Oct 29, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what

this one play doesnt show shit .. he gets burned by tes all the time .. cant pressure the qb to save his life when he does blitz .. and doesnt even get tackles .. he is by far our worst lb .. and fokou is better than him even if he doesnt know the defense yet

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Oct 29, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blah .. blah .. blah

JIBTA’s back. with opinionfact comments.

This was an outstanding post, CavortingEagle. Showed a depth to Gocong’s game of which I was not aware.

by IggleGreen on Oct 30, 2009 6:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FIBTG!

I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.

by BrianS on Oct 30, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. this was just

an example of how Gocong gives us a chance to win… and Fokou isnt better than Gocong, if he were he would’ve been taken alot higher than the 7th round(i think he was taken there) and he would have already been starting.

face the facts. Gocongs good and you just have a hardon for Fokou’s name.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Oct 30, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

Gocong is garbage, how does him contributing (arguably at that too) prove he’s overlooked. Id start anyone over him. Tired of seeing him get burned

by Team Serbia on Oct 30, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gocong definately gets criticized because he doesn’t get the big play on the highlights and his name doesn’t show up on the stat sheet as much as some may want it to. But plays like these make those big plays possible.
On the other hand, Gocong has shown some lack of production and lapses. I haven’t quite thrown him under the bus like a lot of people though. Plays like this are what make him effective.

by Q27 on Oct 29, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's why "Fullback"

is so appropriate with Gocong. Nobody ever notices the Fullback unless he screws up. When Chris gets his assignment fraked, we all give him $h!t. He has trouble covering the TE, true but hopefully he’s not asked to do that too often and when he is the scheme is (er…) clever…

by cavortingEagle on Oct 29, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He does his job

What more can we ask of him?

by LegendKnight22 on Oct 29, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he doesn't put up staggering numbers

but he does what hes supposed to…the think about gocong is he makes less mistakes as opposed to more big plays…thats a plus in my book

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by immynimmy on Oct 29, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well done

I never got the gocong bashing either

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Oct 29, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've always liked Gocong

I was defending him last week when guys thought Spoon would take over at Sam next year with Bradley back.

Gocong doesn’t have the #s that all-star Sam backers in the league do, but he’s a big body who supports against the run really well, and isn’t bad in coverage.

For the record, I like him, I have liked him

"What did it feel like? That collision, I ­didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Oct 29, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ehhh?????

i still dont trust Gocong, if we have the chance and or brains to do so i think we should try 2 upgrade the position next year. I dont kno his contract situation so i dont kno if its reasonably possible.

by goldenbird09 on Oct 30, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gocong’s contract is up after this year. Possible free agent signing are Kirk Morrison(top choice), Thomas Howard, and Thomas Davis(possibly for WILL).

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.

by Route36 on Oct 30, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good post man

I first noticed what you’re describing last year in the Giants playoff game. Gocong was like a 5th Dlineman that day and was key to shutting down the run by taking on blockers like a beast. He sucks in coverage and is slow though, so I like him more in NFC battles than facing the Arizonas and New Orleans’ of the NFL.

My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.

by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Oct 29, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good post a lot of info

eff you we winning anyway

by eagleswin on Oct 29, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice play by play

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by Goosebumpz on Oct 29, 2009 11:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry if I don't get it but...

you are just proving the fact that Gocong does nothing but make 1 offensive lineman work. Isn’t that something any linebacker can do? All I see from that play is, Gocong and Mikell blitzed from the strong side which freed up the middle for Spoon to sack Campbell. That play worked because of the design of the play and being called at the right time. Gocong cannot guard the tight end and is not a play maker. He doesn’t get a lot of tackles because somebody is always there to tackle before him. He has just 149 tackles,4 sacks, 0 int, and 2 FF in nearly 2 1/2 full seasons. He doesn’t shred blocks fast enough nor reads the play. He is just a below average linebacker that I don’t see being resigned next year.

I would absolutely love Kirk Morrison(yes, I know he is a MLB but Oakland has been wanting to move him outside where he can excel as well), Thomas Howard or Carolina’s Thomas Davis(although he might be too small for strong side being only 6’0) as free agent signings. Now those are play making linebackers!

I didn’t notice Trent Cole’s nice rush fake before, thanks for pointing that out.

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.

by Route36 on Oct 29, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yea

im with route .. trying to make up this shit to cover up a bad lb .. ur making excuses for him not doing anything

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Oct 30, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll keep saying it – you should work for the Cowboys.

by cavortingEagle on Oct 30, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You should really watch the play on NFL.com

Gocong does a tremendous job of “sealing the edge” for Witherspoon to rush through.
Whatever – Morrison would be a great addition to any D, and would provide great insurance if Bradley can’t come back from his knee…

by cavortingEagle on Oct 30, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did see it on NFL.com...

like I said…he did something any linebacker can do and he couldn’t shed that block quick enough either. He might be a nice guy but I’m afraid he isn’t a good linebacker.

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.

by Route36 on Oct 30, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea

hes pretty much a 3-4 olb at best ..and prob not an every down one .. theres a reason he went to a D3 school .. not that u cant be good and go there ..

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Oct 30, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JIBTA

I thought you said Gocong wasn’t any good because he wasn’t black. Seriously, the dude actually said that in one of his posts. I was stunned nobody else call him on that. I suppose that’s why Bradley sucks so much, too?

by IggleGreen on Oct 30, 2009 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

its true .. he sucks

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Oct 30, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bradley?

First I don’t think Gocong sucks…secondly if you say Bradley sucks, you’ll have ZERO support on this forum

"What did it feel like? That collision, I ­didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Oct 30, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gocong shouldnt be a fullback

He’s a linebacker and they have to make plays. I won’t really bash hard on gocong because he REALLY is a DE who got moved out of position. If you really want a defensive fullback look at London Fletcher, he’s an absolute beast and never gets the credit he deserves.He’s deserved to be in the probowl several times over and most casual football fans wouldn’t even know he played in the NFL.

by Bo Jangles on Oct 30, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

London Fletcher is no "defensive fullback"...

The guy averages 130+ tackles per year. His career numbers…nearly 1200 tackles, 29 sacks, 14 INTs and 10 FF. Maybe you just meant that he gets overlooked a lot. Defensive Fullback means you just contribute to the play but won’t get any recorded stats.

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.

by Route36 on Oct 30, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fletcher

outside of patrick willis he is the best mlb in the nfl

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Oct 30, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Willis being by far the best...

but not Fletcher as second. Here is my list.

2. Demeco Ryans
3. D’Qwell Jackson
4. Jon Beason
5. Ray Lewis(still got it)
6. London Fletcher
7. Kirk Morrison
8. Stewart Bradley
9. Will Witherspoon
10. Jonathan Vilma

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.

by Route36 on Oct 30, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shit...Forgot Barett Ruud

I’ll put him at 10 and Vilma 11.

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.

by Route36 on Oct 30, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no david harris?

that guy is a beast.

"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China

by snowhill82 on Oct 30, 2009 5:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was considering him instead of Spoon but with me being a Homer, I have 2 Eagles taking up spots lol. You’re right, Harris is a beast

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.

by Route36 on Oct 30, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spoon at 9?

Let’s see how he does the rest of the season. I’m not disagreeing, but he really hasn’t been played much in the past two years in an effective D. Maybe in a few games I’ll agree.

by IggleGreen on Oct 30, 2009 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget Lofa Tatupu

I know the guys injured, but when he is healthy he is one of the few bright spots on the Seahawks team.

by macjack09 on Oct 30, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t forget him. He is not top 10-11 in my book. Definitely top 15.

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.

by Route36 on Oct 30, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bradley is hurt

you cannot count him on that list now. He has to come back next year and earn that spot at #8 again… Witherspoon has played 1 game at MLB in how many years???

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Oct 30, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In his first game, he dominated. He never played with this much talent on the defensive line before. He is only going to get better. I proved you wrong when you called me an “idiot” for calling Spoon our best linebacker before the game. I recommend, you not question my foreseeing skills. lol. Stewart Bradley was a stud in just his second year in the NFL. He will only get better when he comes back. If Patrick Willis went out for the season on an ACL tear, would you take him out of the top 10 list? NO!

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.

by Route36 on Oct 30, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bradley

hes not bad .. not a star .. dansby is better than him

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Oct 30, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

But Dansby also has more experience. But I agree that they are overrating Stew a little based on his ablility rather than what he has done. I believe he has the talent to become one of the best in the NFC. But he has to do it first.

by macjack09 on Oct 30, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I rated him that high...

Because he was a pro bowl caliber linebacker in only his second year in the league. He was named 2nd team All Pro by Peter King last year. He was a huge reason why we had the third ranked defense last year. Look at our defensive rankings now without him. He is only gonna be better from here on out. I have no doubt he will be back to his normal self after recovering from the torn ACL.

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.

by Route36 on Oct 30, 2009 11:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I understand

But that is what I mean. He didn’t do it yet. He was pro-bowl calibur but didn’t go (I understand why though. Its hard when Jon Beason and Patrick Willis are in your conference). And actually our defensive rankings are about the same last year as they are this year at this point in the season. And as for coming back to his normal self. Not that soon. Understand, you don’t come back exactly the same you left. I think he could be better once he gets some work back on that leg but he’s not going to pick up right where he left off right away. It doesn’t happen on an ACL tear. Could he eventually be better than before he got the injury? Absolutely. But its not going to happen as quick as we hope for it. Thats why I think its important that we surround him with potential next year when he comes back so his development is easier. I mean how can you expect to come back and get healthy and pick up where you left off when the guys next to you are Jordan and Gocong? Bringing in Will was big for us and Stew (especially if they don’t pull a Takeo with him). Now if they put an actual someone on at the SLB spot then that takes alot of pressure of Stew making his recovery and growth easier. But those are just my thoughts.

by macjack09 on Oct 31, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You want Dhani to come back from fantasy island?

Thanks for the article. Fletcher and those guys are MLBs, which will get a lot more tackles, Gocong was right at the top of the league, I believe last year, in Tackles for Loss, which for my money is as good as a sack and an under-appreciated stat. No matter what anyone says, our D has improved since the day Gocong came on board as a starter, and that is a fact, despite all the other LB’s changing during that time. He also made a tremendous transition from his college play as a record-setting pass rusher. I am still waiting for him to just settle in and put it all together and “arrive,” but I think it’s possible.
But I got to say, I love watching him play a hundred times more than Dhani “fall down and take out two of my own guys” Jones! Gocong doesn’t get embarrassed in man-up situations, and I love that. He’s an Eagle. Jones was not.

by madderwulf on Oct 30, 2009 1:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fletcher was not being compared to Gocong...

That was a response to Bo Jangles calling Fletcher a “defensive fullback”.

Chris Gocong was among the leaders in tackles for loss………in Division 1-AA!

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.

by Route36 on Oct 30, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also loved when Dhani.....

played his faggot air guitar. Tackle a guy 12 yds past the line of scrimmage. Air guitar. Get beat in coverage. Air guitar. Tackle a guy in the endzone. Air guitar.

by eaglemaniac814 on Oct 30, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China

by snowhill82 on Oct 30, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fuck that

dhani only played the air guitar when he made a play .. which was about as often as gocong .. or never .. wow i hated him soo much

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Oct 31, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Congratulations JIBTA!!!!!

you share an opinion that approximately 100% of BGN has. Dhani Jones sucks. Sorry, Dhani, that air guitar won’t get you into Free Reign. You suck too much for them.

by eaglemaniac814 on Oct 31, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

eye opening post man

This just shows exactly how little stats can mean some times in football

Let's get it.

by homestar2281 on Oct 30, 2009 1:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not new

I’ve known this for some time, Gocong is the battering ram he is the linebacker who takes on the run and he is essentially the NT of the linebackers, this trait is VERY evident when you go back and watch the Vikings and Giants games in the playoffs.

BUT while Gocong is a nice fit for the scheme, Gocong is not special he is a product of the scheme. The SLB is essentially a 3-4 SLB where they’re responsible for sealing the edge against the run, covering the TE and blitzing. You need to be an all around linebacker and Gocong only does one of those things effectively. He cannot cover a TE if his life depended on it and he is not a consistent blitzer. He is a nice player but not a stud or a good player, he is a role player.

This is evident within all the schemes that are variants of Jim Johnson’s scheme, the Giants used to have Mathias Kiawanuka at SLB until he was needed at DE, they now have drafted Clint Sintim a 3-4 OLB in college to man the spot in the future. Both teams have employed Carlos Emmons who was a 3-4 OLB in Pittsburgh before he became a SLB in the Eagles and Giants system.

Gocong is not a good player, he is nice against the run but that is it and he is a monstrous liability in pass coverage and is a major reason why the Eagles defense cannot cover a TE. Do not mistake Gocong for a good SLB, he is a mediocre one.

by d-jackfan10 on Oct 30, 2009 1:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Well said. Like I said above, that video does not prove anything. That play worked because of the design and the timing of the call. All Gocong did was keep one lineman busy which any SLB in the league can do and he couldn’t even shed that block quick enough.

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.

by Route36 on Oct 30, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we gotta draft a linebacker....

we could do better. yes, gocong can play the run. so can trotter. so what. i think we move bradley over next year. i don’t see akeem jordan moving. before witherspoon got here, jordan was the only linebacker we had that could make a play. i think he stays put. witherspoon isn’t built for the middle, but he’s better suited there than SLB. didn’t bradley play strongside at nebraska? it seems like it. but next year we clean house at LB. gocong, gaither, white, and mays should all be worried for their jobs. i think fokou has a good chance of at least playing for a couple of years. he’s kind of like last years joe mays. back to the point…..we definitely take LB next year in the draft.

"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China

by snowhill82 on Oct 30, 2009 5:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also..

we might pick up a LB next year.

"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China

by snowhill82 on Oct 30, 2009 5:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Imagine Morrison at MLB, Bradley at SLB, and Spoon at WILL. I could have a wet dream just thinking about it. lol. That in my opinion would be the best case scenario for next year. We will have a great linebacker core next year when Bradley comes back. Spoon and Bradley can play multiple positions. Even without a Free Agent signing, we will be in good position.

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.

by Route36 on Oct 30, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This doesn't mean much

It just shows he knows what to do. I mean when a receiver sets a pick or pulls coverage up across the middle for a deep route, we don’t start saying he’s an underrated star who is great, he is just a player that gave a good fake. I mean if we want to analyze single plays that a player makes then everyone in the league would look like an all-pro

I ain’t one to knock players because I believe in giving them time before I judge them. Its been 2 1/2 years for Gocong and he has shown me nothing. Stats or not. He is a 3-4 linebacker or a DE and that’s it. His contract is up at the end of the year and it would be wise not to resign him unless just for depth. I’m with everyone in picking up Thomas Howard or Kirk Morrison. The problem is Kirk might want to resign since he seems to have this love of Oakland and Al Davis has a love for speed and might not let Howard go (probably franchise him). I know we aren’t going to get Davis since he is starting to come along and the Panthers wouldn’t be in the right mind to let him go. If one of those 3 happens to hit the market, I would stand corrected. But for now I am just analyzing LB’s that could possibly enter the draft. I’ll keep my eyes open.

by macjack09 on Oct 30, 2009 3:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The play in question was Spoon’s strip sack.

Come on start the chant …SPOOON…

R.I.P Jim Johnson 1941-2009
we will miss you Jim Johnson, thank you for everything you done to the eagles defense making them the best of the best, RIP JJ...

by EAGLE_MAN71 on Oct 30, 2009 4:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNN!!!

Let the beasting begin.

by TransplantedFan on Oct 30, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right now this team only has two LBs who I think should be here for sure next year..

and that is Bradley and Spoon. Everyone else is a question mark in one way or another and needs to be looked at to see if we can’t improve the spot.

by IgglesFanDeployd on Oct 30, 2009 7:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

jordan

jordan is a lock .. so is gaither prob .. not saying they will start but they are locks to be here

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Oct 30, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

If Jordan and Gaither come back, it will be because they provide depth since they know the system.

by macjack09 on Oct 30, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

eh...

I can take or leave Gaither…I actually like Gocong over him. If he brings something, it’s his ability to play 2 spots, but I haven’t been high on him since his rookie year.

"What did it feel like? That collision, I ­didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Oct 30, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wel all know andy doesnt see LB as a priority skill position.. next year i doubt hes gonna pay spoon unless he really tears shit up this year. i hope it ends up jordan stew spoon but i see it ending up like takeo..

by ieatcrayons on Oct 30, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope you're wrong, but I fear you're right

"What did it feel like? That collision, I ­didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Oct 30, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

on second thought we did give up a lot for him so he will be here next year and probly take over for jordan and resign gocong

by ieatcrayons on Oct 30, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Spoon is not a FA until 2011

so do not worry just yet, he’ll be here next season. Gocong, Gaither and Jordan are all free agents in 2010.

by d-jackfan10 on Oct 30, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Problem

Andy does not like to put emphasis on the LB core and might want Spoon to take a pay cut (ala Takeo Spikes) and if he doesn’t…..well we’ve seen how that works out. It doesn’t help that Will turns 30 next year either and Reid loves his youth on defense.

by macjack09 on Oct 30, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gocong is great because he’s able to run to a spot and take up a blocker and…that’s it? Can’t any linebacker do that— run towards a spot and occupy a blocker? What you’ve described in this article is a tackle dummy, not an effective linebacker that can beat or cover his man.

by ghostofandrewatters on Oct 31, 2009 12:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great user name

by cavortingEagle on Oct 31, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And points to the dude who mocked Dhani’s air guitar. Even if Trent Cole did that after a play it would be lame, and Dhani is no Trent Cole.

Speaking of lame, WTF was D Jack’s crap ass riverdance after the touchdown? I love me some D Jack, but stick to backflips, dude.

by ghostofandrewatters on Oct 31, 2009 12:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs


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