When Bradley Comes Back...
by birds'n'raiders on Oct 28, 2009 10:10 AM EDT
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Let's face it: We all miss this guy
But now, with Will Witherspoon stepping up as an Eagle MLB, my question unto you is: What are we gonna do when Big Stew is back? Witherspoon is a fine LB, has the ability to play MLB, WLB, and SLB, but is most suited as a WILL. Well, if Stew comes back at full health, what is the plan gonna be? The fact is that our best LBs are Stew, 'Spoon, and Akeem. But, who plays inside? Stew was originally drafted to play Strongside, so do we move him back there? Do we even keep 'Spoon? His contract is HUGE.
The way I see it, next year's LBs (if we don't get any big time free agents) will be
WLB: Akeem
MLB: Stew
SLB: 'Spoon
but, because of the flexability of these guys, we could see:
WLB: Akeem
MLB: 'Spoon
SLB: Stew
or, do we resign Gocong? Do we still have faith in Gocong?
WLB: 'Spoon
MLB: Stew
SLB: Gocong?
MAYBE SOME 3-4 LOOKS???
DE: Laws (a 3-4 DE in college)
NT: Bunkley
DE: Abiamiri
Weakside OLB: Trent Cole
Weakside ILB: 'Spoon
Sam ILB: Stew
Sam OLB: Gocong / Clemmons
or maybe a heavy package
DE: Bunkley
NT: Dixon
DE: Patterson
WOLB: Cole
WILB: Spoon
SILB: Stew
SOLB: Gocong
or maybe a speed package:
DE: Howard
NT: Bunkley
DE: Abiamiri
WOLB: Cole
WILB: Spoon
SILB: Stew
SOLB: Clemmons / Babin
I'm diggin this flexability. And this is if we don't draft or sign a big-time weakside or strongside 'backer (which we probably will)
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When is Gocong’s contract up?
"The last time the Eagles won by scoring in the final two minutes of regulation was a 23-20 win over Oakland in 2005."
After this season...
http://www.eaglescap.com/Players/ChrisGocong.html
That’s a great site, by the way.
I believe the UFA’s are…
- Jason Avant
- Winston Justice
- Max Jean-Gilles
- Nick Cole
- Omar Gaither
- Chris Gocong
- Tracy White
Sav Rocca and Akeem Jordan are RFA’s.
Not a lot to worry about this offseason.
Next year is scary as hell though...
UFA’s include…
- Donovan McNabb
- Brian Westbrook
- Kevin Kolb
- Quintin Mikell
- Brent Celek (actually, he might be a RFA)
- Victor Abiamiri
- Stew Bradley
- David Akers
Next year is scary as hell though… UFA’s include…
- Donovan McNabb
- Brian Westbrook
- Kevin Kolb
- Quintin Mikell
- Brent Celek (actually, he might be a RFA)
- Victor Abiamiri
- Stew Bradley
- David Akers
Westbrook either retires or plays elsewhere
Either Kolb or McNabb are gone
We better not lose Celek. Look for a deal to be done this year offseason
Brent Celek is the man
I would LOVE for us to run a 3-4 scheme!!!!
But me might not have the exact personell for it. Also, though he has only played in one REAL game so far, BABIN said that he’s happy to be in a 4-3 scheme cuz he said that it more fits his style and is more effective.
Not sayin we should “play to Babin style” but, we all saw how effective he is at the traditional DE position. The man’s a beast, and should be challenging V.Abiamiri. Victors a nice guy, but the guys seems like he’s made of GLASS.
But I would be really cool if we threw some 3-4 looks in there!
I dont see I would work...
Like, having a 4-3 base, then switch in the 3-4 a couple times a game.
We KINDA do that already…having Juqua, Clemons and sometimes Cole drop back in coverage every once in a while!!!
I believe that the 3-4 scheme is harder to gameplan against thus more difficult to BEAT!
We should most def. throw more 3-4 looks …..but of course Babin would not be in. It would be more Clemons
as it is
McDermot has shown a lot of cool looking fronts. A bunch of 5 man lines. A few 6 man lines. Last night we saw a weird goalline formation with 3-6 formation (3 down linemen and 6 linebackers, 2 corners). 3-4 is just another way of messing with offenses. We are a 4-3 team, no doubt, but we could pull off a few exotic looks a game. especially on unsure running/passing downs like 2nd and long (6 or more). then we can go with our whacky ass 3rd down stuff.
by birds'n'raiders on Oct 28, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
wow..I totally messed up my title up there hahha geez
Meant to say, “I DO SEE IT WORKING”
wow wayyyyy off….hahhahaha
The Eagles will not run a 3-4 look because...
Probably the single hardest player to find in the NFL that isn’t a great QB is a true nose tackle. And no, Dixon is not big enough or strong enough. 3-4 looks without a real NT to soak up the C and a G get shat on.
bunkley
are u serious? the man would be a monster nose tackle
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Oct 28, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Bunkley as a NT?
Bunkley weighs 306 pounds. You think a 306 pound man could be an effective NT in a 3-4 defense?
Christ, JIBTA, I can see why everybody here laughs at you.
he’s a monster 4-3 DT, but he’s no monster Nose Tackle.
My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.
by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Oct 28, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
yea
who said u have to be huge to play nose tackle .. jason ferguson is 6-3 310 lbs .. jay ratliff 6-4 303 lbs .. now bunkley is 6-2 306 lbs .. what are u guys talkin about .. seriously .. learn your stuff .. bunkley would be a monster nose tackle .. who said u have to be ted washington
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Oct 29, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Ummm...
JIBTA, go check the weights of the dominant 3-4 NTs in the game. (Williams, Hampton, Ngata, Wilfork, Jenkins, Rogers.)
Afterwards, come back and apologize for your idiocy.
ok .. since when wasnt ratliff a stud nose tackle? .. he is .. hampton is average .. baltimore runs a hybrid 3-4 which is what we would run .. and rodgers hasnt been dominant in years .. ratliff and ferguson are both studs .. and both around bunkley weight .. wilfork is only around 320 .. and jenkins and williams are both hurt ..right now ratliff is better than all of them except ngata and maybe wilfork
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Oct 29, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Did we forget how strong he is???
Bunkley has the record at the combine for reps of 225 which is 44 times!! He is “lighter” then those big NTs but he is just as strong and faster. I like him there.
We can always tell him to gain weight. It’s not like he’s never had a coach tell him to put on some pounds before.
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
id say keep him that weight
its clear he is one of the stongest in the NFL so why add weight to slow him down?
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"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
Gocong
was made to be a 3-4 OLB. He really doesn’t belong on this team. He is not big enough to be an everydown DE in this league, but he doesn’t have the instincts of a linebacker.
by birds'n'raiders on Oct 28, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Testing 1 2
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
Bunkley
is nowhere near big enuf to play nose tackle. Sorry, I mean I’m a big fan of him, but he just wouldnt pan out at that position. He’d need to pack on about another 30 pounds for it to even be feasible. That Dixon guy might have the size, but whether he has the talent is far from seen.
agreed
we have two great defensive tackles, why take one of them off the field? and while it might be interesting to see how that would work here, i have always preferred the 43. Having stew back at full strength next year and putting witherspoon at the weakside along with gocong/fokou/free agent/2010 draft pick at the strong side it is gonna be a fun group to watch.
we could alway
just convert King Dunlap into a NT….
sarcasm
That 44-6 eagles cowboys game on Dec. 29/2008 was the best game i've ever seen
About That
Yeah, JIBTA just told me up above that Bunkley would be a “monster” as a 3-4 NT. What a moron.
See thats the thing..
As I stated above, we don’t have the right personell to run a proper 3-4 scheme. I think we could still run an Eagles version. We kinda do it already..using Clemons and Parker as Jokers. But it would create more confusion and havoc if we did it more often and actually mixed in a 3-4 look sometimes.
We dont have the NT but our DE’s are more like 3-4 OLB’s. Undersized, fast and quick. We could do some MORE really cool things. If Mcdermott puts his mind to it, well…….
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
But...
I’m (provisionally) okay with what you’re saying if it’s an obvious passing situation. But, if you do it any time when the run is a possibility, you’re going to get rocked. Without a true nose tackle, all the offense has to do is check into a plain old up the gut run and the center is going to toss the fake NT out of the way. Then the RB gets to follow a guard for at least 5-6 yards.
LOL
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
ok one more time .. now whos the idiot
who said u have to be huge to play nose tackle .. jason ferguson is 6-3 310 lbs .. jay ratliff 6-4 303 lbs .. now bunkley is 6-2 306 lbs .. what are u guys talkin about .. seriously .. learn your stuff .. bunkley would be a monster nose tackle .. who said u have to be ted washington
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Oct 29, 2009 12:31 AM EDT reply actions
"Learning our stuff"
JIBTA, go check the weights of the dominant 3-4 NTs in the game. (Williams, Hampton, Ngata, Wilfork, Jenkins, Rogers.)
Afterwards, come back and apologize for your idiocy.
ratliff
ratliff and ferguson are just as dominant
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Oct 29, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
the only reason
Ratliff is any “good” is cuz i dunno, he kinda has Demarcus Ware diverting attention and blockers. He’d be Rollerskates Ratliff anywhere else
I hate the Cowboys as much as anyone...
…but outside linebackers don’t divert attention away from nose tackles. Jay Ratliff is a phenomenal player.
wow
what a retarted statement .. thats like saying cole makes bunkley good ..
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Oct 30, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
JIBTA is right on this one. He and Ratliff would pan out to be similar players at the NT position because of their strength and athleticism. And as much as I hate to say it, Ratliff is good.
Plus, this wouldn’t be the primary defensive look anyway, so what does it matter if the personnel doesn’t fit perfectly to your liking?
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
Have to agree with JIBTA
In fact two years ago, against New England, Bunk played NT in our 3-3-5 look and we did pretty good against one of the best offenses in NFL history. People that talk about weight are crazy. Ask DeSean, it doesn’t matter how small you are if you have talent.
It doesn’t work like that you can’t just say “oh fantastic!” we got 4 great linebackers lets switch over to 3-4 so we can play them all. You need to pick up specific personnel with specific qualities different than the ones required in a 4-3. Kansas City is trying to switch to a 3-4 defense and tried moving players who were better in 4-3 to play new spots and it’s not working out too well. You need big D-linemen to generate pressure and take up blockers. Big, fast outside linebackers to play as edge-rushers, and be able to cover. It really requires a major overhaul of personnel to make the switch. I hope we never switch to a 3-4 defense I love the 4-3 it makes the middle linebacker like the quarterback of the defense, I guess thats why I like it so much it gives me a clear idea of who’s calling the shots.
I’m not saying we should be a full time 3-4 team, but we do have the players that could play in a make shift version of the 3-4. I’m not big on taking Patterson out of the game, but if we’re gonna spell him we could always try it. Hell, it wouldn’t be the worst experiment that went goes wrong.(Vick, Tony Hunt to FB, Jeremy Bloom, Dan klecko)
Personally I hate the 3-4 defense I like the scheme we run now, I would probably be upset if we ever changed that. What’s the point of going to 3-4 at all if we don’t have the personnel to execute it effectively, our defense is consistently top 5 material and dominant every year there’s no reason to change that, just let the players grow in the scheme we run.
Free agent acquisitions
They should get Aaron Kampman and Derrick Johnson. One will be cheap, one will not. Both are misfits in their current 3-4 defenses and free agents at the end of this year.
Imagine this front seven:
Cole, Patterson, Bunkley, Kampman
Johnson/Jordan, Bradley, Witherspoon.
Then, perhaps we can trade up and get Taylor Mays or Eric Berry and our defense will be stacked.
Won’t happen, but I think it’s possible.
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