Evaluation of McNabbs recent performance
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 8:59 AM EDT
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I know its ta-bu to discuss anything anti McNabb to some people. So I will do my best to be as fair as possible in this Post.
Let me start by saying, I don't want to be the voice of the Anti McNabb crowd. As I am still a strong supporter of McNabb. And I want nothing more than to see him succeed. But his performances vs the Raiders and now the Redskins have become a cause of concern to me.
Last week, most will agree that Andy's pass heavy play calling was mostly the result of his observations of wide receivers being WIDE OPEN all game. I know that they blitz was coming, but to be honest, they didn't blitz as much as you think. Our offense line really struggled with the front four alone, but with that given. You should be able to hang in the pocket, and deliver a quick strike to a spot to wide open receiver. McNabb couldn't, he tends to hold the ball long, and he still refuses to throw the ball unless receivers are a mile open. That's why we lost last week, Andy trusted his QB can make at least 1 quick slant or out. But he couldn't
That brings us to the Redskins game. Some will say, "Well he did hit Jackson". But lets be honest, the ball was under thrown and off target, and that was a blown coverage play. 99% NFL QBs hit that pass, even Jake Delhomme hits that pass with no problem. But I do recall McNabb rolling out on one play and trying to throw off the run to Maclin who was sitting beyond the sticks, and he threw it into the floor. There were times that Maclin was wide open, and McNabb just missed him, I think he missed him over the middle, and even missed Jackson for an easy completion up the middle. I recall at least 5-7 easy passes that were missed. The defense gave the Offense the ball in Redskin territory like 3 time. Only to get FGs. Five really could not sustain a drive.
Lets examine the Panthers game, where he thew 2 TDs but under 100 yards. He didn't sustain drives in that game, and he really struggle vs the Buccaneers. Granted, he has made some big place for scores. But he hasn't be able to move the sticks consistently and just get first downs and sustain drives for long periods of time. He hasn't done it all year.
Now McNabb faced some bad teams in Panthers, Raiders, Buccaneers, all have horrible defense. But McNabb did not play that good in any of these games. And while the Redskins defense is decent, he didn't fair to well. We scored on big plays, mostly great execution by the WR or RB. But not really attributed to any sustained drives. But Kolb played vs a better team in NO who has a better defense than most teams McNabb faced and played very good. And he got the job done vs a bad Chiefs team. He did what he was supposed to do, that is embarrass the bad teams. Donovan should have killed those bad defenses like Kolb did, but he didn't. So lets be fair when we examine our QBs of the future. Don't say, well Donovan has one us so many games, and Kolb hasn't done anything. Kolb hasn't done anything because he hasn't had the opportunity to do it. But in his short live chance, he has done a better job than McNabb in sustaining drives and moving the ball and putting his team in position to score, also our time of possession is higher with Kolb. So its up to you guys to debate if McNabbs poor play is just rust, or if Kolb is starting to become a better option.
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15/25 1TD 91 Passer rating
and salting away a win in the second half with conservative play.
What else do you want?
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant
by NJBammer on Oct 27, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sustained drives.
We need to be consistent if we are to beat good teams.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about
NOT THROWING THE BALL INTO THE GROUND>…. OH HOW ABOUT A 3RD DOWN CONVERSION!!!!!
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by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm 100% with you on 3rd down conversion...its TERRIBLE
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Oct 27, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3rd down
How you gonna blame mcnabb when you run the ball on first, and run the WC on second. You’re puttin the ball in Mcnabbs hands on 3rd and 14, and you complain when he doesnt convert. That’s just rediculous. How many 3rd and 10+ did we have last night.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Oct 27, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
decent arguement. We need to find more lower risk 4-5 yrd plays for first down.
Just to make 2nd and 3rd more managable.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I"m not blaming McNabb alone for our 3rd down woes
Penalties, no push in the running game, bounce passes on short throws…there are a # of reasons we end up in 3rd and long…but our conversion rate is TERRIBLE
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Oct 27, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will blame Andrew though,
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by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Yes! I don’t even know if I can look at the Big Baby next year when he comes off of IR (When, if, whatever). His selfishness two years ago screwed the team this year.
If we don’t make it far this season, a lot of blame rests on Shawn Andrews.
by UnclaimedFright on Oct 27, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm really not as worried it as everyone else
McNabb always has bad games like this and somehow comes back strong. The offense needs to be more consistent, but the Giants have already shown they can’t cover the pass. When ever McNabb gets into a little rhythm, he turns into one of the best. So when he completes a few here and there against the G-Men then he will be fine. Honestly, the Redskins D worried me more than the Giants D. Beyond the front 4 they are pretty much soft. If McNabb can get even the slightest rhythm going (which I expect to happen) then look for him to feast on the secondary of the Giants.
by macjack09 on Oct 27, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also
That brings us to the Redskins game. Some will say, “Well he did hit Jackson”. But lets be honest, the ball was under thrown and off target, and that was a blown coverage play. 99% NFL QBs hit that pass, even Jake Delhomme hits that pass with no problem.
Yeah but I doubt Delhomme has the smarts to pump fake to his 2nd receiver while his number one is doing a double move knowing that his number 1 will be open because the defense will bite on the pump. Remember DeSean was covered by Horton. If McNabb doesn’t throw that pump right when Jackson makes his move outside, DeSean is not as open. That was an All-Pro move by McNabb. Don’t give all the credit to Jackson.
by macjack09 on Oct 27, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good pump, bad pass still
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by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he caught it…right? TD, right? I say it was a safe pass. Didnt want to over or underthrow it, so he just stuck it into a safe spot.
by GreenInBaltimore on Oct 27, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
testiment to Jackson, (But McNabb did do the pump fake, which created it)
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would argue that the Redskins defense is actually good, not horrible as you say.
After watching the Saints take down the Giants two weeks ago, I’m not all that impressed with their defense. Their line is great, but if our o-line can finally gel, their secondary is ripe for the picking. I’m not concerned. He played conservative, which is exactly what was called for here. Play it safe against the good defense, take what you can get and let our defense handle the anemic Wash. offense. Was I impressed last night with McNabb? No. But I’m not all that worried either. He’s due for a string of strong games and I think it’ll start with NY, especially if the line can finally come together.
by NOLACuse on Oct 27, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like McNabb, but he’s one of his slumps of frustratingly mediocre to bad play that he seems to go through every year.
Most of the time, the Eagles lose those games.
I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.
by BrianS on Oct 27, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Most of the time
We definitel do lose and it doesn’t matter who.. Whether it be the 1-15 Bengals or the RAIDERS, we lose…. McNabb is a bum. He can’t run an effective WC offense. That’s why when Garcia or Kolb come in the offense is r un much smoother and more efficiently. You can scream play calling all you want but if last night’s run ratio and Mcnabb’s ability to NOT throw an accurate ball in important situations didn’t prove anything for you … Then i don’t knwo what will.
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by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Calm down about Kolb.
Put him in there and we’re a 5-11, 6-10 team. He’s not a full-time NFL starter. We have Donovan. He’s miles better than Kolb. Relax.
"Right now Winston Justice is the guy...until that person gets back out there"
by EvilBanner on Oct 27, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How do you know that
He had TWO WHOLE starts and you know just how good he is from that? Oh those were both 300+ passing yard games. He made Brent Celek look like the next Antonio Gates. He leads WRs, he’s accurate, he was making quick decisions…. All the things Mcnabb after 10 years STILL can’t do.
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by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just contradicted yourself.
He had TWO WHOLE starts and you know just how good he is from that?
How can you tell he would be better than McNabb based on “TWO WHOLE” starts?
Please, I’m so tired of this stupid argument. McNabbs our QB people, relax and support him.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hunny please
Where did I say he WAS going to be better than McNabb?
Now you’re just putting words in my mouth. This is NOT a stupid argument. McNabb is a mediocre QB
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by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your nuts to call McNabb mediocre. McNabb is 3-1 this year and coming off of a rib injury that kept him off of the field for 2 weeks. If you expected him to hit stride perfectly in his return, then you’re not rational.
by GreenInBaltimore on Oct 27, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3-1 against who?
The panthers, skins and the tb bucs? They are the worst teams in the NFL along with the Raiders who we lost to.
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by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a good point Joe_D
I know a win is a win…(panthers, skins, bucs) But when we start playing more GOOD teams, will we still be able to win under this sub-par play!
We shall find out….I do no that if Dmac continues to throw 3 and outs, our Defense will get TIRED AS HECK! And that’s what keepin us in alot of these games. Our D. U take away that from us, and expect Dmac to take the load on his back….Well, u already know how that could pan out.!!!
But we’ll see
by Realtalk32 on Oct 27, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hunny Please? lol I’m just like any guy in this forum so no need for the terms of endearment.
You are stating that Kolb can do things that McNabb can’t do in his 10 years… I don’t know how much more clearer your statements can be. If you think Kolb is the answer you are saying that McNabb is not. Hence my post. so…
Hunny Please… McNabb is Medicore based on what? His winning percentage? his NFC championship runs? His Superbowl appearance? His TD passes? His rushing yards? His Pro Bowl appearances?
Yes, this is a stupid argument when this argument is reiterated every damn day on this site. McNabb is a future hall of famer.. if that means he is mediocre then you have no idea what mediocre means.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hunny please
If you want to talk about his big games, you’ll lose that argument too. His SB appearance he had 3 or 4 turnovers that ultimately cost us a close game. He’s 1-4 in his CG, how’s that for a winning %? He hardly rushes anymore, which I feel is a mistake as well… Pro bowls don’t mean anything — lots of so-so players get in based on their popularity.
Any decent pocket passer would do much better than McNabb would right now. Yes, the O-line is struggling but he is flat out missing WIDE OPEN WRs and throwing balls into the dirt.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well shit… you should put in for the position of Head Coach after this year since I’m sure you think Reid is Mediocre too.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hunny please
Now you’re using straw man arguments. FYI, I support read 110%. I love Reid, I blame the poor play on lack of execution.
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by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Reid
110% support him.> hunny please, quit the strawman arguments
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by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my only issue with your argument is … football is a team sport he may have a bad game or two but so do all QBs … did anyone see Peyton Mannings abysmal performance against the Browns last year 125 yards 2 picks a fumble.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Oct 27, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea. It was terrible.
I couldn’t believe the Colts didn’t bench him and trade him. Clearly he was done. Hell he never could beat the Patriots. Bum.
by NOLACuse on Oct 27, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I also watched Brady throw 72 yards against the Fins back when the Fins were a 6-10 team… The fact is for those of us who have been watching McNabb for the past 10 years (Not Route36, and all the other teens and 20 year olds) we’re tired of seeing him being SO inconsistent. A bad game is fine. Defenses are bound to out smart you but this is jus tpure McNabb happy feet not getting set and throwing really really bad balls. He’s not seeing the field very well in the past 2 weeks and against two of the worst teams that just isn’t acceptable. It’s nothing new and it has to stop or else we’re not winning a ton of games.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious? You agree… and he basically said the same thing I did. QB’s have bad games and you want to sit there and say its a lack of execution as though McNabb is the only one on the team.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can't win for losing.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should just stop since I know nothing.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO! Kevin Bacon was not in Footloose!!!
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
RIP JJ & HK
LETS GO PHILS!
by BadCo'09 on Oct 27, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
him being SO inconsistent.
I agree but my point is all QBs are inconsistent and even more so if your line isn’t giving you good protection.
Even when you get a good pocket if you got hit the play before from your blind side you are questioning whether the protection is there.
Peyton, Brees, and Brady are pretty consistent … agree? yet Peyton still managed to go 2 games last year with 0 TDs and 2 INTs each, Drew Brees had 5 games last year where he threw more INTs than TDs and 1 where it was equal 1-1, Brady in the undefeated season where he was almost perfect STILL managed to lay an egg against teh Jets 14-27 0 TDs 1 INT ….
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Oct 27, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What has Kolb done to make you feel he isn't capable?
Who performed better against the a good defense this year?
Who performed better against a bad defense?
Why do you hate Kolb, you can’t argue his performances this year. Unless he stole your girl or owes you money or something. Than thats a different story.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t say he hated Kolb. Even though Kolb performed well in those two games… that still doesn’t mean he is better than McNabb.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he didn't say it with his mouth, but his eyes said it .....jk
Naah, Banner is contrarion, this is the stuff he does
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by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
consider the case of Tom Brady, he was almost a nobody,
He only saw time because of injuries to the starter and backup. He didn’t light the world up at first, he wasn’t even a better QB than Bledsoe, but he consistantly moved the chains, (although he was behind a possible HOFer with a super strong arm).
I’m not saying Kolb is Brady, but you never know who that back up is.
Bret Favre was a backup in Atlanta behind a (better QB), he won the Superbowl.
Not every QB is a top 10 pick, but doesn’t mean you aren’t good. Not everyone has McNabbs arm, (Breese, Brady, in the past Aikman) all have average arms, like Kolb.
I love McNabb and appreciate what he has done, but this team is young and talented. I want to see him win, but there is a point in life where you must adapt, he hasn’t. Kinda of like Iverson with the Sixers, he didn’t adapt, so he didn’t survive.
I hope McNabb learns to change a little, for his good and the good of the team. We got away with his flaw for years because he does so much more. But now we are ready, the question is , is he ready?
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I agree with you…
All I was saying is that Joe D contradicts himself by saying Kolb is proven in 2 games whereas someone else’s opinion states that 2 starts doesn’t prove he isn’t prove.
therefore… two whole starts can’t really prove anything no matter what side of the fence you are on.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that, 2 games is too short to tell. Kolb can still be a bust,
But we better find a way to get that ship right, I am not happy going to another NFC championship game and losing. I won’t be happy with a superbowl loss either. I am tired of being the champion of the losers. Number 2s should be flushed, not admired.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
completely agree. I’m not even saying that McNabb is the most consistant QB ever. But he is definitely not mediocre. He has been disappointing, but at the same time there are other aspects to the game then his play AND he is/was injuried. Kolb stepped up and performed in his two starts, but who’s to say we can tell who is better based on that? The only people that can judge that is who is out there with them everyday at practice and obviously at this point they think that person is McNabb. Everyone is sick of losing. Everyone is sick of the “HOW MANY RINGS YOU GOT”? comeback. Its old. But I’m gonna support my QB as an Eagles fan no matter who that is. And right now its McNabb.. and least we forget… We F’in won the game.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to know how you think Mcnabb "struggled" against TB...
16/21 264 yards 3 TD in 3 quarters 157.2 QB rating.
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
stats don't justify his play. Everyone who saw the game knew otherwise. Its was an average performance at best. You saw the game.
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by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually thought
that was a really good game
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Oct 27, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We agree on most, but I wasn't in love with that performance. Although not a horrible one.
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by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, most of his yardage is on big plays. I'm talking about creating a flow on offense.
Spreading the ball to the receivers, keeping people involved. Consitantly sustaining drives. I see a lot of 3 and outs, or we get the first then go 3 and out. But he would hit DJax on a bomb, or Maclin. Look at his numbers, most TDs on big plays. I know, big plays are good, but you will not be given those points vs the better teams. You need to be consistant and keep the chains moving. And Donovan hasn’t done that this year, if so, I surely don’t remember it or didn’t see it. This is coming from a guy who loves McNabb, but I love the laundry more than I love a player, I feel that Kolb has shown promise, that said, I give McNabb the entire year to do what he needs to do, but would move onto Kolb next year.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This team is built for the big plays. Andy Reid and Marty loves calling for big plays. With Kolb, you won’t get 50-60 yard bombs for TDs. He was a weak arm. Short quick accurate passes, yes, Pick 6’s also yes.
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Montana and Troy Aikman had weak arms
Russel, Vick and Boller had strongest arms I ever seen.
Arms strengh isn’t important in the West Coast offense, recall the Chiefs game, and that quick slant to Jackson on the money, that is what it is based on. Quick hits taken the distance.
Kolb threw 3 picks, first vs the NO was all his bad, second was a good play by Sharper, not Kolbs fault, Sharper made a heck of a play. Last pick was Andy’s fault for calling a .07 bomb when down 20 plus.
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by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
We had BIG plays with Kolb in there!!!! jackson had 2 huge plays with Kolb and Celek had a 35 yarder for a TD?
You are dumber than Jibta
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said…
50-60 yard bombs for TDs
Not big plays.
Joe D, do me a favor and please stop talking to me. Replying to you is a waste of my time.
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
love it so much.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you stupid 20 year old shit
You think we’re built on 50-60 yard bombs?
face palm
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by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
I said…
This team is built for the big plays
I just mentioned that Kolb can’t do 50-60 yard bombs like Mcnabb can. If you think Kolb can do better than Mcnabb, keep thinking that, nobody is stopping you. Just STOP TALKING TO ME.
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
Kolb can’t throw 60 yard b ombs as well as McNabb.. Damn, kolb must really suck then.
Guess what kid. Mcnabb can’t throw 5-6 yard passes as well as Kolb can… so eat it
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just STOP TALKING TO ME.
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brady or Breese can't throw bombs like McNabb.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, they can.
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
show me
show me a high light where brees has bombed a 60 yarder for a TD
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh and it can't be on madden kid
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by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOU should stick to Madden because you are an amateur when it comes to real football knowledge.
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
joe d-
i love how you automatically assume everyone is so young.
"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China
by snowhill82 on Oct 27, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
due to the arguments
and football intelligence. I was spot on about Route 36 wasn’t I?
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKFY6S7TAOI
0:45 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVObgdBm7gU
1:10 seconds.
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
U hhh
those were like 40 yard tosses dude…and kolb coulld’ve thrown them
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ummm no. Hail mary was 55 and the second was like a 48 yarder.
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Kolb threw that big TD to Jackson against the Saints, he looked like he gave it his all to throw a 30 yard pass to Desean. Kolb can’t throw an accurate 50 yarder. Why am I still wasting my time replying to you??
Maybe, cause you are wrong most of the time and I have to prove your old ass wrong.
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brees’s longest pass completion is for 66 yards. So yes, he can. Si se puede!
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no sabias que hablas espanol, muy bien
todavia no me vas a decir quien es su padres? Todo bien.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you realize that counts YAC to right? because if not his longest pass completion of his career is 86 yards and I know it wasn’t all in the air.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Oct 27, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no they can't bro. I love Breese,
Has an average arm, that is why he was drafted in the second not the first.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://sports.wcbstv.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=2009&type=Passing&range=NFL&rank=235
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tom Brady was a 6th rounder and has a strong arm as well.
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
has an average arm. Strong is reserved for Russel and McNabb.
But that just my oppinion
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Russel, Mcnabb, Cutler have rocket arms. Strong is Brees, Peyton Manning, Brady etc.
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, I see your criteria. Just a mix up of wording then.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Average is Eli, Kolb, Orton etc. Weak but can get the job done.
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. with that.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The whole point of that statement was to say that Joe D has no idea who I am or my background, whether that be a daughter of a professional player or a homeless person.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoops – posted in wrong spot.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also, you didn't reply to my espanol.
But its cool.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know spanish! lol my bad. I could of looked up every word on the internet but… meh, too much effort. sorry.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kolb's throw to Desean against NO
was 48 yards in the air and beautiful
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Oct 27, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was on the money, and caught him in stride.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it wasn't...
He threw it from near the 25 and Desean caught it at the 40. That makes it 35 yards buddy. Like I said, he looked like he gave it his all to make that 35 yarder. He even moved up to throw it. It was a great throw regardless. I just wanted to make the point that he has a weak arm and he does.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09000d5d812cb5eb/Kevin-Kolb-Highlight-WK-02-vs-Saints-2009
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
i was thinking about it today, and realized I TOTALLY did the math wrong. He released at our 22, and DeSean caught it at their 40….38 yards…my bad
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Oct 28, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And no,
I’ll never argue (i don’t think anyone would argue) that Kolb offers remotely the arm strength that McNabb does.
I’ve personally never seen him throw a deep a ball to judge it…but on this particular throw, he didn’t need to throw more than 38 yards, so it’s hard to say, based on this that he couldn’t
You’re right that he stepped up to get some momentum behind the throw, but he had the pocket to do it, so why not…anyone would choose to step into a throw if they were offered a choice.
Maybe he couldn’t have made that throw without stepping into it…I don’t know…again, with Kolb, I just don’t have enough data
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Oct 28, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember from preseason this year, Kolb tried to throw like a 40 yarder in the end zone and it was miles off. I was seriously laughing after I saw that! Kolb definitely has a weak arm bro.
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 30, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
face palm is classic bro. I was rollin when I read that.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thse kids are making it too easy
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off, you have no idea how old I am or how educated I am…
if you’re so old and wise, its pretty pathetic to see you on here arguing with “little kids” and being so immature.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he didn't face palm you did he? I just haven't heard that for years.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah what the hell
to eagles girl
facepalm
Love,
Joe D
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
im getting pissed at myself for doing so, but I’m passionate about Eagles and I don’t have work today.
i also don’t care how educated you are. I don’t have any education past college but I make a LOT of $$.. And I’ve been watching football a lot longer than you have, I’ve played football, and I haven’t missed a game in 7 years… I won’t discredit your knowledge, but I think I know more…
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
making dough right? I bet you used to ball?
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ball how? like a baller?
I’m too cheap to be a baller!
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, I mean you played ball,
ex NFLer. I know you are a trainer.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t know how old I am or how long I have been watching football.. whether my dad played pro and whether I have been living it my whole life. You know nothing. So stop with assumptions.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m actually Donovan McNabb
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Oct 27, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well then I’m sure you’re not liking this conversation too much, you washed up, inconsistant, ant killing, waste of space.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
meh I’m cool with it … I’m sitting in a golden chair while this woman feeds me grapes.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Oct 27, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so your not gonna tell us who your dad is.
Thats cool, Is he (I mean) was he an Eagle?
I bet your dad is still playing now for the Eagles, sweet. I respect that. You do have some football knowledge, I respect that alot.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hah
YPB is going to be asking you forever now until you give us an answer!
by eagleyosh on Oct 27, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in different laguages if needed.
Just curious. I don’t even need a name, just a position, or who the head coach was. Something.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I posted this in the wrong response but:
The whole point of that statement was to say that Joe D has no idea who I am or my background, whether that be a daughter of a professional player or a homeless person.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so your not telling me.
Thats cool, I undertand. Dob’t want to get you in trouble.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
she’s not telling you not because she doesn’t want to get in trouble but because he father is Mike Mamula and she’s embarrassed
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Oct 27, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL- Classic.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if that is the case
id like my money back from her dad for my mamula jersey
rec’d
RIP JJ & HK
LETS GO PHILS!
by BadCo'09 on Oct 27, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet you aint playing!
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honetly,
I bet a few players are on this, I know les bowen peeps this. I bet you are les bowens. Just come clean already.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're out of your element, donnie.
"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China
by snowhill82 on Oct 27, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats my halloween costume
such a great movie
RIP JJ & HK
LETS GO PHILS!
by BadCo'09 on Oct 27, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your dad played proball? Who?
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats my point. No one knows anything about me other than the opinions I post on this blog.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eagles girl has to be a teen broad on here just getting on peps nerves
by FLAeagle on Oct 27, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats exactly what it is
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, You don't gotta give me his name,
just the team and the years. thats its.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just to let you know.
I’m gonna ask you about your pro-football dad every once in awhile just so that everyone remembers and keeps asking. I completely understand your point, but I find these exchanges really amusing.
by NOLACuse on Oct 27, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the "Support" issue
I ain’t no fucking cheer leader! I will not cheer mediocre play when my team is struggling because of you!
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm an Eagles fan, not a McNabb fan.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea U can't say anything bout Kolb...he did a good job step'n up!!!!!!!!
U can’t say what our record would be if Kolb was our guy. No one knows cuz he’s not our QB right now! He did fine against the Saints except that one pick in the second half. The other one was garbage. The only thing u can compare is accuracy between the two.!!
One guy has a couple of turnovers this season and had thrown for 300+ yrds in his first two starts! One against the Saints, who are an Undefeated Team!! Consistent in his first two weeks of starting!
The other guy has a habbit of throw’n Dirtballs and Rocketballs to WIDE open Wr’s. He has thrown for some huge yardage as well against but against Losing Teams. Big yrds none the less. But has experience on his side!
I love Dmac and he’s our guy, but he’s always been a inconsistent passer week to week!!
by Realtalk32 on Oct 27, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm starting to see that.
He lights up the bad teams, just like any good QB (as well he should, recall the Lions game). But needs to be more consistent on hiting the open receivers. I’m growing tired of seeing first downs squandered because the throws an antkiller. Those short passes to Maclin got me upset. Than he jump up and down clenching his fist saying “Almost”. I need that “almost” to be “TD”.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mcnabb is useless
i don’t know if kolb would be better but one thing is certain he could not be worse than “3 and out mcnabb”…maybe the eagles could trade him to one of the other division teams… then we’d be sure to win those two games each year… there is nothing more decieving than stats… 200 td passes… 30,000 yds…. so what.??? show me one truly great game against a great team in a clutch situation… not from mcnabb… not in the past… not this year…. not ever!!!! it will always be the same story…. 90 mph passes into the dirt…. dumb decsion making… etc, etc…
by toofunny777 on Oct 27, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha touche
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why we love McNabb
it’s not his consistency, or his accuracy…
it’s his ability to turn the tide of the game at ANY MOMENT!
Sometimes the moment doesn’t come…but sometimes he scrambles for 14 seconds against the Cowboys and launches a BEAUTIFUL BOMB!!!!!
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Oct 27, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm NOT a Dmac hater at all...but
Sick of his inconsistent play. Ten year vets should know what their strengths and weaknesses are. Especially a QB. Your Leader.
We ALL see Dmac throw dirtballs and sky rockets. Ok he make mistakes. No QB is perfect. But when its a 10 year track record of this…U gotta call it out. I appreciate that he doesnt throw many INTs. Good. I’d rather have a Dirtball than an INT, but when it’s three and out, three and out dirtball there and sky rocket here, your STILL giving the other team the ball. Then that takes its toll on OUR DEFENSE! If ur gonna throw it low, Throw it low by all means, but give the WR’s a chance to make a PLAY ON THE BALL. !! That’s all im say’n man!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Realtalk32 on Oct 27, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed,
I’m just upset, because this offense should be blowing every team out. And we are not.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i look forward to seeing us playing NY this week. McNabb is 3-1 and only lost in his return game from a 3 week injury. Cut the guy some slack. Cracked ribs DO NOT heal in 3 weeks. He’s playing well enough. He’s not making mistakes. He is trusting his other playmakers.
You’re speaking as if the dude threw more in the dirt than he did to his guys. He completed 60% of his passes! There were 2 drops, and at least 2 throw aways. Take that out and he is 15/21, which means he is hitting on over 70%. I think i could live with that!
by GreenInBaltimore on Oct 27, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope your right.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dmac's Not Making Mistakes!!
REALLY!!!!
In the LAST two games….Ur sayin DMAC is “NOT MAKING MISTAKES”
That second half was not up to par…we didnt score another single point the rest of that half. He couldnt drive down the field!
A win is a win….but this level of play might not be able to keep us goin
by Realtalk32 on Oct 27, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am most upset at the drives we got the ball in Redskin territory only to get FGs
That pisses me off.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
barely got FGs
they werent chip shots either, both 40+ and both looked like they could said outside the uprights. unless the eagles are within the 25 yrd line, then i dont have high confidence in akers anymore. ive supported him over the past few seasons, made excuses for him (new holder, injuries, etc) but im really starting to think he lost it
RIP JJ & HK
LETS GO PHILS!
by BadCo'09 on Oct 27, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our offense has to get into reasonable range though
I know it’s on Akers to make the kick…but when we get the ball in opposing territory, that’s a freakin gift…we need to at least move the chains a couple times
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Oct 28, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meant to say,..this level of play might not be able to keep us goin....
WHEN IT COUNTS !
by Realtalk32 on Oct 27, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know Mcnabb and the Eagles kick ass in the second half. Don’t start fretting now buddy.
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel u
We have a High Power Off. ! Our O-Line is jacked up right now. I can’t blame anyone for that. Shawns back problems (who knows), Stacey knee still not back to full strength yet and doesnt know the Play Book well enough yet (who Knew). At least Herremens is back!!
Then there’s Curtis! (dont get me started)….
There are soo many factors but u can not make excuses. When Dmac went down, Garica stepped in and UP and took us to a Playoff game STILL!!! That’s what it comes down to..no excuses and players steppin up and still gett’n the job done.
by Realtalk32 on Oct 27, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are supposed to be a juggernaut, yet we squeek by bad teams.
Maclin and Justice have stepped up for them. And so has McCoy to a degree. I officially hate Shawn Andrews now.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s strange I mean technically we have put up the most points against the Redskins our Offense seemed to go into protect mode in the second half. It appeared as though they just wanted to end the game I would have liked to see a more stomp them into the ground approach personally.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Oct 27, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it was vanilla,
But you got like 3 or 4 turnover in washingtons 35 or less. And McNabb killed some ants in front of Maclin. Maclin was pissed, I thougth he was gonna punch McNabb. He rolled his eyes like, “Dag man, I was open”.
HD rocks, you can see that stuff now.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i noticed that too
along with everyone else at the bar
RIP JJ & HK
LETS GO PHILS!
by BadCo'09 on Oct 27, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mcnabb
All in all Mcnabb didnt have a bad day numbers wise…but just think if Jackson would not have burned the defense so bad on that one play. The play went for 67 yards and a Td. The ball was underthrown but Jackson was so far ahead of everyone he had time to stop catch the ball and score the touchdown. If the Redskins D stay with Jackson better on that play Mcnabb has less than 100 yards and no touchdowns
by cnubsbl16 on Oct 27, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
save all the bashing we won . if your any kinda eagles fan you know this happens every year this team just wins mcnabb will ball when he has to im not worried because you can win be 50 this week is doesnt mean ish next week .
by FLAeagle on Oct 27, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AMEN
thank you.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a fun debate. Best I've had in a while.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
:-)
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was your favorite part of the debate?
Route36 is pretty comical if you ask me.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
face palm, hands down
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Keep passing the ball! It’s gotta work!! It’s gotta work!! There is no need to run the ball. Keep passing! The receivers are WIDE OPEN!! Pass Pass Pass Andy!! Mcnabb you SUCK!!
-Joe D.
You are the comical one bro. You start name calling and shit when you realize you were proved wrong. You think you are a know-it-all just because you’re old?? The only person that has your back in this post in YPB because you were members for a long time. Any random member will think you are an ignorant fool. You also don’t understand when someone says “STOP TALKING TO ME” maybe you need some glasses oldie.
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats my boy. I roll with Joe_D. That my homie, him and JIBTA
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not that Joe and JIBTA have anything alike.
I just like the two personalities.
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by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
negativity and blatant disagreement with logic. whats not to like?
by GreenInBaltimore on Oct 27, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes it fun
I hate Howard Eskin, but can’t stop listening to him, and from time to time agree with him. Very similar in my oppinion.
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by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no i agree. JIBTA is actually fun to talk to on here. I do agree with him on occasion.
Jody on the other hand…i dont agree with too often. Typical negadelphian attitude.
by GreenInBaltimore on Oct 27, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jody!
Lmao!
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by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 3:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
jody...
i will never refer to him as Joe D again….genius.
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by snowhill82 on Oct 27, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats close to the face palm right there!
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by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 27, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you guys married?
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by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McNabbs Recent 'Slump'
Last year:
Chicago Game: 25-41; 230yds; 1 TD; 1 INT…15% 3rd Down Efficiency
1st Redskin Game: 17-29;196 yds…41% 3rd Down Efficiency
1st Giants Game: 17-36; 194yds; 3TDs; 1 INT…27% 3rd Down Efficiency
Cincy Game: 28-58; 339yds; 1TD; 3 INTs; 1 lost Fumble…16% 3rd Down Efficiency
Baltimore Game: 8-18; 59yds; 2INTs; 1 lost Fumble…23% 3rd Down Efficiency
2nd Redskin Game: 26-46; 230yds; 1 lost Fumble…21% 3rd Down Efficiency
This Year:
Oakland: 22-46; 269yds…12% 3rd Down Efficiency
Redskins: 15-25; 156yds; 1TD…26% 3rd Down Efficiency
Slump #s: 53% Completions…6TDs; 7INTs; 22% 3rd Down Efficiency
I think we can all agree that we don’t love McNabb for his accuracy; and I think we can also agree that we don’t have a large enough sample size of Kolb’s work to trust it long term.
To say McNabb goes through these ‘slumps’ is true. To say that every QB lays an egg now and then is also true. But 6 games last year out of 16 is a pretty big SLUMP. The 1st Giants game is the best with 3TDs, but he threw under 50% completions. To say that he’s largely successful is also true…just look at his career #s. And to understand that his big play potential could change the game any time is also a reason we love him…but 2 ‘slumpy’ games out of 4 this year is pretty bad.
I don’t want to put it all on McNabb’s shoulders because it’s a team sport; but if we’re bringing other QBs into the argument, Peyton completes 64.7% of his passes; Tom Brady 63.2%; Drew Brees 64.1%; Tony Romo 63.2%; Jason Campbell 60.7%; Donovan McNabb 58.8%
Yes, Jason Campbell has completed a larger percentage of his passes than Donovan.
So, if guys are arguing for a more consistent, and accurate QB…maybe they have some ground to stand on.
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by jalarsen1 on Oct 27, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yup, so maybe some of these guys will call for a Campbell for McNabb trade! They want better accuracy, and 60.7% is higher than 58,8%. Makes sense to me! haha
by GreenInBaltimore on Oct 27, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McNabb makes a habit of pulling plays out his butt, that is why we love him.
But I would enjoy the simple completion to Maclin for a first down from time to time as well.
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by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, you slam dunked that one.
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by yophillybro on Oct 27, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose we can split hairs … you can argue consistency with completion percentage and I’ll argue ball protection.
Only Brady has a better TD/INT ratio at 2.36, McNabb 2.2, Peyton 2.06, Tony Romo 1.8, Jason Campbell 1.4, Drew Brees 1.75
the difference between 58.8 and 63 is 183 completions … so 16.6 a season, or 1 completion a game … not that big of a deal in the broad scope is it?
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by Whodie126 on Oct 27, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL 1 completion a game
that kinda does put things in a different perspective…
stats can say so many things!
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by jalarsen1 on Oct 27, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG bro
McNabb rulezzzz , dont b a h8er dawg. Aint no qb can throw the ball 70 yards like my dog donovan can. hes a WINNUH!!!!
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by Joe_D on Oct 27, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You got called out in Tanman's post...
Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)
Since 2005: Andy Reid 37-32-1; 7-25-1 when tied or losing at halftime.
by Route36 on Oct 27, 2009 4:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Joe D, get off McNabb's jock
I guess it was his fault Desean alligator’d the 3rd down over the middle?
And that Maclin dropped a 3rd and short conversion?
Or that Todd Herremans was dominated? Or that Jason Peters almost got McNabb DESTROYED by missing a block and leading to a sack right in #5’s back?
You want sustained drives? How about pass protection? How about a running game? How about caught passes?
Your references to the ground balls McNabb throws are legit. No one ever argues against that. No one should.
But the fact that folks think “QB wins and loses and that’s it” – and that the Joe Montanna’s, Brett Favre’s, Steve Young’s, Tom Brady’s, Peyton Mannings - didn’t have any help…is just STUPID.
David Tyree doesn’t catch the Hail Mary FLUKE….Eli Manning wouldn’t be relevant…
Peyton Manning’s ring was a completely gift-wrapped by his defense. Aside from his 2nd half performance against the Pats, he was absolutely atrocious during the Colts’ playoff run.
Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Brent Jones, Ricky Watters – all had to catch those passes from Montana and Young, etc.
Kevin Curtis catches that 4th down pass against Arizona – and we come back …. everyone’s on McNabb’s jock.
But be realistic – other folks dont step up – then there wont be sustained drives, there wont be Super Bowl glory.
It will be the same ’ol, same ’ol – and do we even have to get into how many times McNabb has brought his team back only to be let down by the D?
I hear people say: “Oh but he had the ball in his hands at the end of the game so he had a chance and he failed…” blah blah …
Santonio Holmes doesn’t make a tip toe grab in the back of the end zone – Steelers lose or tie or who knows what happens.
OTHER FOLKS need to step up.
McNabb’s a leader. No one in the locker room questions that.
Fans need to stob masturbating to this “2 Minute Drill love affair, clutch QBs last second drives” notion – and get real.
Last year’s Redskins game is a perfect example. McNabb and the Birds came up short. But lest we forget McNabb threaded a pass with a minute to go to Desean’s fingertips…and he dropped it. That would have tied the game and who knows what would have happened.
Desean makes that catch and the haters say “Oh see, McNabb is clutch…blah blah blah”
This is just so stupid.
by damonmoore43 on Oct 27, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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