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Rams Fans React to Witherspoon Loss



There's no better way to see what you got in a player, than by listening to the reaction of the team who lost them.  I compiled comments from the members at Turf Show Times as they react to their loss of our newest addition.  I don't know any of these guys, so I cannot vouch for how educated any of these opinions are.  But here are some opinions:

Witherspoon is only 29, a team leader, and one of the few playmakers we have on our young D…this move makes no sense to me, esp. considering we’ve already picked up Amendola and Ruvell Martin at WR. I don’t get it

He was moved back to the weak side this year (what is supposed to be his best position) and I just felt he never met my expectations. Were they unreasonable? Maybe, but I’ve gone through games watching and never really seen him do much.  He’s tough though and is a true professional. He’ll fit in well.

I’m not that surprised. A little, but not shocked. Nothing says “rebuilding” like trading away your best LB.

Will Witherspoon actually added something to this team and him and Laurinaitis made a pretty good Linebacker core. I don’t think we should have traded him just to get a WR and younger players.

liked him as player, but he’s only a solid not spectacular player.

He was supposed to be really great when he got back to OLB. Instead I’ve seen him miss as many tackles as he’s made, and I haven’t seen him do much in covering backs coming out of the backfield on pass plays.

Was he that BIG a game changer??? I honestly can’t think of anything on the highlight reel or really anything substantial that says to me “he’s our leader and a game changer”

Seeing this hurts. Sometimes I feel like we’re approaching mediocrity, then we’re hit with some big loss.

He’s a decent starting LB. Natural Will but played out of position in the Mike for most of the last few years. He’s not bad at all, but not going to Hawaii either.  As far as being a playmaker, he has Zero INT’s and Zero Sacks and Zero FR’s this year. So….not sure what the definition of playmaker is but to me it’s not simply tackling… he’s 2nd on the team in tackles.

Will is getting older and wasn’t making a lot of plays but still he is a proven veteran that we know can play. I think the rams front office just wanted some picks and where interested in this young receiver and the deadline was coming too fast and they just panicd and hit the button. As of right now i do not like this decision unless we find a will witherspoon with this 5th round pick or this guy turns out to be jerry rice.

Witherspoon DOES IT ALL. One of our only playmakers.

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Hmm

Kinda split. The main thing I’m getting is the fact that, although he may not be a huge playmaker, he’s a solid LB that gets the job done.

by LegendKnight22 on Oct 20, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah,

That’s what I got too.

Although I hate the idea of judging a guy’s “playmaking” ability on the highlight reel.

It’s almost like us saying that Bunkley isn’t a playmaker. He has no sacks, no interceptions, and no sacks this year. In fact, he only has 9 solo tackles…And I still think he is one of the best in the league.

"What did it feel like? That collision, I ­didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Oct 20, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many sacks does he have?

About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.

by IronHank on Oct 23, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bunkley has 5 in his career, and 0 so far this year.

Witherspoon has 19 in his career and 0 so far this year. His best year ‘statistically’ was ’07 when he had 110 tackles, 7 sacks, and 2 forced fumbles.

"What did it feel like? That collision, I ­didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Oct 24, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

solid is better than what we hav now anyway

Two thirds of the earth are covered by water, the other third is covered by Dawkins

by greeninireland on Oct 21, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

at this point i'm fine with that.

"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China

by snowhill82 on Oct 20, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

as long as he comes in and does what he’s told to i’m fine. a solid lb doesn’t come by every day and hopefully he’ll be able to contribute enough

by notfromphilly on Oct 20, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Some mixed reactions there...

All I know is he HAS to be better than our current linebackers. You can’t ask for more than that with what we gave up.

Andy Reid needs to go. 36-32-1 (2005-present) Oakland game is unacceptable.

by Route36 on Oct 20, 2009 11:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Another post from an analyst at SI’s Scout Notebook I read was that he overcompensates for lack of talent around him and is forced to do too much. He will probably thrive in an environment where there is a lot more talent than the Rams. If I were him I’d be JUICED to come into a winning team with an opportunity to start.

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by EagleGreeninMD on Oct 21, 2009 8:08 AM EDT reply actions  

wow…

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by Route36 on Oct 21, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think Gibson wouldve been a huge playmaker in years to come. He was amazing in the preseason and was one of the biggest highlights. I will admit we needed major help at linebacker though.

by andyb on Oct 21, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

He didn't have any game

with more than 4 catches, and never even hit 50 yards. He had one TD in 4 preseason games. While I also was high on the kid…it’s hard to forecast that he was going to be a huge playmaker.

"What did it feel like? That collision, I ­didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Oct 21, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice post...

Thanks for compiling that.

by JimmyK on Oct 21, 2009 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

And we add yet another Georgie Bulldog to our team … that makes 5 coincidence?

Jim Johnson 1941-2009

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Oct 21, 2009 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

How many of them are worth the money they make Whodie? :P

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by EagleGreeninMD on Oct 21, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

2

MJG and Sean Jones

Jim Johnson 1941-2009

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Oct 21, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, sorry.
Now if we had drafted Knowshon, that list probably would have been longer.

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by EagleGreeninMD on Oct 21, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

great … way to bring that up again we still have Anuj on suicide watch.

Jim Johnson 1941-2009

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Oct 21, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, he said he’d over it….
…but we’ll keep an eye on him just in case he starts binge drinking.

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by EagleGreeninMD on Oct 21, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

He said he picks McCoy over Moreno now. Moreno is in the running for rookie of the year. He is no joke. He played to the level of the hype.

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by Route36 on Oct 21, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

A QB will get R.O.Y., prolly Dirty Sanchez.
Sad but true.

Astra Inclinant, Non Necessitant

by EagleGreeninMD on Oct 21, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not if he has more games like Sunday’s. Check out his stats this year.
http://www.nfl.com/players/marksanchez/profile?id=SAN091667

Brian Cushing is having a hell of a year as well.
http://search.espn.go.com/brian-cushing/nfl/47

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by Route36 on Oct 21, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget about my boy Hakeem Nicks.

Three straight games with a TD, last week was the first week he’s been 100% and he had five catches for 114 yards and a score. Kid is a YAC machine, a couple more weeks like the last and he’ll have to be considered. Of course, if Maclin has a couple more weeks like the one he had against Tampa, he’ll be up there too.

"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a chance(see Desean Jackson).

Andy Reid has to live with Sunday's reality: He was out coached by Tom Cable. (John Clayton)

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by Route36 on Oct 21, 2009 6:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It won't go to a WR

Maclin had a great game. Austin Collie had a great game for Indy. Nicks has been consistent. Percy Harvin’s been playing well. Johnny Knox has been consistent. Crabtree might actually come up big for SF (he’s starting immediately). But none of these guys are playing head and shoulders above the rest.

No rookie running backs are standing out like Felix, Forte, and Slaton did last year.

But Sanchez will probably get it…he played 3 solid games…two fine games, and then this last implosion. The Jets will probably pull it together, and Sanchez will get it.

"What did it feel like? That collision, I ­didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Oct 21, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

felix?

felix played all of 3 games i believe .. he didnt stand out .. that would be chris johnson u mean

by jack is better than asante on Oct 22, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good Call

i was impressed with Felix, but he was hurt, and I just completely forgot Chris Johnson and Jonathan Stewart

"What did it feel like? That collision, I ­didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Oct 22, 2009 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fantasy Question

should I consider Nicks Eli’s #2 option behind Smith, or is Manningham pretty entrenched there…and how does Hixon’s return affect anything?

I have Nicks now, and I’m wondering if I should drop him for Lance Moore, but I need a Giants fan’s opinion

"What did it feel like? That collision, I ­didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Oct 21, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly...

I think you should keep Nicks. Three TDs in three weeks is as consistent as it gets, and his injury was still lingering for those first two games. As I said this last game was really his first game at 100% and he showed up in a big way. I don’t know if he’s going to steal the #2 spot from Ham just yet, but even if he doesn’t, I don’t see his production slipping.

"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 22, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

whats fucked up

it wont go to who it should .. michael oher should win it hands down .. well if the season ended today .. but it will be sanchez .. cuz thats the flashy pick for nfl

by jack is better than asante on Oct 22, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

This quote...
Seeing this hurts. Sometimes I feel like we’re approaching mediocrity, then we’re hit with some big loss.

It must really suck to get excited about almost being mediocre, and than become heartbroken when you realize even that is out of reach.

"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought that too

i can’t imagine the excitement of almost approaching mediocrity…that sucks!

"What did it feel like? That collision, I ­didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Oct 21, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhhhh, the question I have is… When exactly were they approaching mediocrity?

by JimmyK on Oct 21, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I know is that

he is a solid LB, and is excellent in Coverage(per espn.com)…

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Oct 21, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

We shall see …….

R.I.P Jim Johnson 1941-2009
we will miss you Jim Johnson, thank you for everything you done to the eagles defense making them the best of the best, RIP JJ...

by EAGLE_MAN71 on Oct 22, 2009 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

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