Bandwagon Jumpers?

by goodfella46er on Oct 14, 2009 1:09 PM EDT Comment 49 comments

On today's "Playbook" show on the NFL Network, analyst Mike Mayock was commenting on Andy Reid and the Eagles and said: "I live in Philadelphia. We jump on and off the bandwagon quicker than any other city." That led co-host Brian Billick to chime in with a snide and sarcastic "Nooooo..." (as in: "ya think?")

The analogy didn't exactly fit with the rest of Mayock's comments other than it's negative tone. But it got me thinking about Eagles fans.

Sure Philadelphia has people who ride the bandwagon, but those are the fair weather fans that you will see in every city across the country. The casual sports fan, the elderly aunt, the closet Cowboys fan, etc. But those types of people are few and far between. The bulk of Eagles fans, which would make more sense to cite if you want to generalize us, are some of the most passionate and knowledgable fans in the country!

Anyone who lives in Philadelphia knows that Eagles fans, of the true variety, will never jump off the bandwagon no matter how horrid our team is. I'm talking about people who survived Norman Braman, Marion Campbell, and Rich Kotite - and that's only going back 30 years. In the past decade, I haven't seen anything that is even close to the those awfuls periods in Iggles history. Yet this "Philadelphian" states as fact that we lead the league in bandwagon movements. If we're still here after decades of frustrating endings and tenures, does he really think that Andy Reid's playcalling is going to force us to trade our jerseys for another team? Please.

If he seriously thinks that, then he listens to WIP too much. And hopefully the next time that station sends a busload of Philadelphians out of town somewhere, I hope he's on it and I hope he only has a one-way ticket.

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One line you wrote about sums it up

If he seriously thinks that, then he listens to WIP too much

Especially that god awful morning show.

by Balagast on Oct 14, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I should clarify

I defintely had the morning show in mind when I wrote that. There are plenty of good hosts on the other shows.

Looking Mean in Kelly Green

by goodfella46er on Oct 14, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Like Howard Eskin

jkjkjkjk

by cliffer on Oct 14, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Howard

Would know bandwagon—he is the “King” of the bandwagon fans. He trashes the Phillies all year until they make the playoffs, then he’s all over their jocks. He’s even taken to bashing the Eagles now.

by doubleh on Oct 14, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Phillies

I would say that there are a lot of bandwagon Phillies fans popping out of nowhere when the Phillies won last year and are now advancing past the first round again this year. But for the most part, I have seen Philly fans as being passionate and sticking with the team through the worst of it.

by YoSixers on Oct 14, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Don't?

Don’t the Eagles need to win a Super Bowl before they start talking about Bandwagon jumping? You haven’t seen nothing. If by chance you actually win a ring one day, you will see true bandwagon jumping.

Go ask a Skins fan, a Giants fan, or a Cowboys fan what bandwagon jumping really is. Because Eagles fans don’t really know a damm thing about it. Actually win something that matters…. then come talk to me.

by williamhudsonlink on Oct 15, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually win something that matters…. then come talk to me.

how about you actually win a game and then you can come and shit talk here

RIP JJ & HK
Let the future judge Michael Vick

by BadCo'09 on Oct 15, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

to clarify

win a game does not mean having the winless rams and bucs do just enough to lose

RIP JJ & HK
Let the future judge Michael Vick

by BadCo'09 on Oct 15, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

why would we talk to you?

you’re not winning anything.

by eagleyosh on Oct 15, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

william knows all about bandwagon jumping

Redskins are horrible..

1.) I have season tickets. In section 406. I may be handing them in after this season. Or selling them next year. It’s very expensive. Robert Henson knows.. my job at McDonalds isn’t too great of pay.

2.) I won’t change teams. But I like watching the Jets. My lady is from New Jersey and she forces me into watching them when she can. I think Sanchez is going to be a talented qb. Always been a Leon Washington fan. (Leon can’t do everythang) But he plays hard.. every week.

3.) Quite pessimistic here, I know.. but I really don’t think anything I personally do is going to change what management does to keep the ’skins horrible year after year.

4.) I quit spending money at the stadium 3 years ago. 8 dollar beers? Kiss my @ss Dan.

by williamhudsonlink on Oct 13, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 rec

LOL

by eagleyosh on Oct 15, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Are you serious

I think there may be 3 nfl fans that are th most hardcore and would never abandon ship:
in no order
1.Philly
2. Steelers
3. Cowboys (yes I said cowboys)

Weapon X eats babies for breakfast.

by immynimmy on Oct 14, 2009 1:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

Packers

I’d have to say Packer fans should be added to your list. I love in “Packer Country” and I die Eagles every Sunday. My family are and have been Packer fans through everything and I think most Packer fans, living in Wisconsin will say the same thing.

Saying that I still love the Eagles…..I started likeing them when they had Kotite as a coach the not so good years and I will always cheer them on!!

by slandog on Oct 14, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, that's pretty much the truth, but I would like to add that in any order

For all the talk about the bandwagon that goes around the Cowboys, there’s 13 years of lack of relevance and our team still has one of the biggest fan bases and a record of years of full stadiums, which included 3 consecutive 5-11 years.

That’s hardcore.

Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on Oct 14, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think the bandwagon Cowboys fans are the ones who live in the Delaware Valley here in PA—and other parts of the country—the ones who had no stomach to root for their local teams and so hopped on the Cowboys’ success (and have likely never set foot in TX in their lifetimes). I’ve never thought people who were from TX or the surrounding areas who were ‘Boys fans were bandwagon types at all. It’s the whole “America’s Team” nonsense that created the bandwagon community that’s helped to make them so hated and allowed this bandwagon myth to fester.

by doubleh on Oct 14, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, but that's the truth of any team that finds some success

Here in México we’re like Switzerland, neutral territory, we get to see Cowboys jerseys and lately we’re seeing a bunch of Steelers and Patriots, but we can find fan bases of any franchise, including the Eagles. The thing is finding the team for you to root and continue to for the rest of your life.

The Cowboys have that kind of fanbase, just like the Steelers, which have a huge nation wide and international fan base because of their long history of success.

Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on Oct 14, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bullshite

You are one of the few Cowboys fans who I have EVER argued with who understands the game and its history. You folllow the game and you debate well. That being said, one of the main reasons I have always hated Cowboys fans the most is their fair weathered nature. You might be an exception. There might be 100,000 exceptions. In general, however, Cowboys fans are happy supporting other teams until Dallas suddenly shows life. That is not loyalty or character. That is not the fanbase you reference above.

Quite honestly, I will give the Cowboys credit for the success they have had in their history. I will admit part of my hatred for the Cowboys is due to their success. I cannot say the same about their fanbase. My hatred for them comes strictly because they only show up when their team is 13-0. The only thing they talk about is past success (13 years ago).

I feel I am as unbiased as I can be when I say this. Cowboys fans are some of the least loyal fans in the NFL I say this after having lived in 15 NFL cities. They are cowards who only root for the Cowboys because their Dad liked them or because they saw them win a bunch of Super Bowls when they were 10. 99% of them have never stepped foot in Dallas. That is not being loyal! That is being a P*ssy who cannot root for the team that should actually mean something to them. Eagles fans may boo. They may criticize. But I have never, ever met another Eagles fan who suddenly roots for another team because they are better. With Cowboys fans, there is always a backup plan. Move to any city and their favorite team is the local fare. When that team is 3-10 and he Cowboys are 13-0, guess who their favorite team becomes? How convenient. An Eagle fan would never do that. That is what makes us better fans.

Just met a Cowboys fan last night in a bar in….Califorinia. So, I asked her. “Where are you from?” Cowpie fan: “Chicago.” Me responding: “Why aren’t you a Bears fan?” Cowpie fan response: “Because they have not won the SB since 1986….” Right! Then you must truly be a Cowboy fan!!!! Best fans in the world!

by Dawk on Oct 15, 2009 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wait

A person isn’t allowed to pull for a team that grabs his attention?

For example, the Bills with Kelly and company called for my attention as a 9 year old mexican with no Football background. Then the Cowboys came and they grabbed my attention and I haven’t let go, always being loyal.

The same could be true for the Chicago fan that you’re talking about, considering that he’s still a Cowboys fans after all this years of futility has to count for something. After all, he didn’t changed into being a fan of the Patriots or Steelers…

Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on Oct 15, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

being a fan of the Pats

is like rooting for cancer. It’s just gross.

by eagleyosh on Oct 15, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We agree on that account.

Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on Oct 15, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Cowboys Fans...

in the Philly area are for the most part just contrarians. They pick the team that will get under the local populaces skin the most. They are also the local Mets, Rangers, and Celtics fans. My personal opinion is that they had daddy issues growing up so they would pick the team they’re dad hated the most.

I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.

by no1pipelayer on Oct 14, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Raidernation, KC has fans everywhere even south philly!

by SFCEAGFAN on Oct 15, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bandwagon jumpers shouldn’t characterize a fan base, since all franchises have them.

What should characterize a fanbase is the collection of true and hardcore fans, which are second to none in Philadelphia. We can have all the bandwagon jumpers in the world and it would make to difference to me, because once you trim away all the “fat”, you’re left with some of the most dedicated, well-informed, and rabid fans in the nation.

"THIS IS NOT COLLEGE NO MORE. THIS IS THE BIG MAN SPORT." ~Crazy Lady on BGN forums

by southjersey89 on Oct 14, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wrong Words

I think when he uses “bandwagon jumpers,” he really means that the fans are really quick to overreact. Our fans get too emotional and are quick to turn on players, but never, never the team itself. Eagles fans would NEVER root for another team just because the team was performing poorly or only openly root for them when they were winning.

Our fans are a lot of things, but bandwagoners they are not.

Every successful team attracts frontrunners, BTW, you can’t avoid that entirely.

by doubleh on Oct 14, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think this is about right. How quickly does the city turn on McNabb and then run to embrace him again? We see lots of “so and so is finished” because of one bad game. Just in this week, I saw a fan post worrying about DJax getting jealous because of Maclin’s one game and demanding to leave the team (not to pick on the author).

We tend to overreact extremely quickly.

Let the beasting begin.

by TransplantedFan on Oct 14, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m as guilty as anyone as far as over reacting goes. I was ready to run Andy Reid out of town on a rail last year after the Bengals and Ravens games last year now I just want to hug the big lug. So Andy if you want that hug come and get it now because I still have that rail in my garage just in case.

I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.

by no1pipelayer on Oct 15, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he was referring to players/coaches bandwagons… we never stop being fans of our team.

by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Oct 15, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

HA!

I was there also concerning Reid.

"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Oct 15, 2009 5:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would never sway

I mean I’m from NJ and left when I was five but I’ve been a fan for 20 yrs and itll never change.

by NJEagle on Oct 14, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

31

years and counting….

I've been sayin wait til next year for 31 years....

R.I.P. JJ

by DoctaWoo on Oct 14, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The Eagles have about a 2,000 year waiting list for season tickets

I hope some of those bandwagon jumpers get off so I can take their place in line.

I get so tired of this crap. Sheesh!

"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant

by NJBammer on Oct 14, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I have to think

that his reference was to the fact that we might be the quickest to criticize the team or voice our complaints. We certainly are not the most ultra supportive fan-base if the team is not living up to our expectations.

With that said, no one (but the normal bandwagon fringe fans) is jumping overboard and abandoning fanship of the Eagles.

by jalarsen1 on Oct 14, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

bullshit

three straight losses in the NFC Championship, pretty sure we still backed our team. Id say new england has alot of bandwagon fans, especially after the trifecta.

In 20 We Trust

by Lyons81 on Oct 14, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I live in Staten Island, NY

and I can attest to the # of Giants bandwagon fans. I’ve seen guys come out to the bar in jerseys with the tags still on them (guaranteed they were returning them after the game)

by jalarsen1 on Oct 15, 2009 5:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah im from Long Island

grew up taking shit from those bastards my whole life. after the superbowl win they seemed to spring up everywhere

In 20 We Trust

by Lyons81 on Oct 15, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Completely agree

I’m also from Mexico like that cowboys fan back there, and the majority of fans become “fans” after a SB win from the team or if a “Mexican” player is on its roster (i.e. Luis Castillo, Mark Sanchez, Roberto Garza etc…) and most of the ‘Boys fans because of the proximity. I’m pretty much the only Philly fan I know of in my city.

by McMuffin on Oct 14, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Good points raised

Maybe Mayock was in fact trying to say that Philly fan overreact quickly, and not that we’re bandwagon fans. OK I’ll accept that. Hell- go back and look at any of the gameday threads on this site for a perfect example. (Although, yeah, the case can be made that these gameday chats are just forums for friends to bitch with other friends)

It just gets so damn old that everyone is so quick to jump on the Philly fans’ reputation. We’ve done our share of embarassing shit, but so have other cities’ fans.

Whatever. I think there’s only two things I see as a remedy:

1- I need to take off my skirt and stop complaining everytime someone bashes us fans
2- The Eagles need to win the Super Bowl

Looking Mean in Kelly Green

by goodfella46er on Oct 14, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

who cares what mike mayock says

oh and WIP sucks.

by Q27 on Oct 14, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Philadelphia Fans are definately fairweather fans

we only sold out Birds games when we lost 10+ games 2 years in a row & have the longest wait list in the NFL

"Leave Michael Alone!" - said like that Brittany Spears fan on youtube

by sports00fan00 on Oct 14, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

psh

that only proves how many people are bandwagoners. probably signed up for the waitlist back in 2004 and forgot to take their names off.

by eagleyosh on Oct 15, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

JUST TODAY

I live in MD where there are a lot of Redskins fans. Today I parked in the parking lot at work and noticed that a guy I work with who usually has a truck with Redskins stuff all over it including a large magnet helmet did not have it on his truck anymore. After further investigating while walking into the builiding, I noticed the stickers were missing and the magnet helmet was in the bed of his truck below some other junk… wonder if he did that just because his team is doing poorly?!?!

In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt

by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 15, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

LOL

that is a priceless find. I can ALMOST guarantee that the magnet still sticks just fine!

by jalarsen1 on Oct 15, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would be a bitter Eagles fan too...

but I am a Redskins fan who thoroughly enjoys reminding little ladies like Eaglesgrl that we swept your sorry asses last year.

SWEEP ! SWEEP ! SWEEP !

There is no reason for me to think we won’t do it again this year. Because we own you. So before you go knocking some Skins fan over something you are purely speculating about… maybe you should think about removing the broomstick from your @nus that we stuck in there last year. LMAO ! Hail to the Redskins !

by williamhudsonlink on Oct 15, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

good work on that sweep who went to the playoffs? don’t worry that is rhetorical.

Jim Johnson 1941-2009

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Oct 15, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and willy, just so there's no mix ups

rhetorical means you dont need to respond to the question because in this instance, the answer is obvious and implied

RIP JJ & HK
Let the future judge Michael Vick

by BadCo'09 on Oct 15, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and willy, just so there's no further confusion

“no need to respond” means that if you choose to, you’ll either end up being truthful and looking stupid for bashing the Eagles who went on to their 5th NFCCG this decade, or lying and looking stupid. So in reality Whodie put you in a position to either shut up or look stupid

by jalarsen1 on Oct 15, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

guess he got the point lol

RIP JJ & HK
Let the future judge Michael Vick

by BadCo'09 on Oct 15, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Denial.

It’s not just a river in Egypt. If you had any perspective you wouldn’t be so quick to say there’s no reason the Skins won’t sweep us. Look at the two teams. I know you always play us tough, but sweeping us again? This year?! Do you actually watch your games? Sweep us all you want, we’ll dry our tears with more playoff memorabilia come January.

by NOLACuse on Oct 15, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LMAO – Unfortunately for you, my ass still holds its virginity so you won’t be pulling anything out of it. You did sweep us last year, but what did that really do to benefit you and your team? Just like Whodie said… its a rhetorical question so no need to answer. Even if you sweep us this year, which is highly unlikely (BUT I’ve been saying since the beginning you can’t underestimate any team in the NFL), it will still not get your sorry ass team to the playoffs. So continue to jack off to yourself since the only thing you’ll be pulling out is from a washcloth.

In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt

by Eaglesgrl5 on Oct 15, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I remember

just a month ago, actually respecting the Redskins. I even posted over on their blog page, how I felt as though they had potential to be in the NFC East Race. I didn’t want to overlook them, or take the game too lightly, but their play on the field has just been begging me to take them as a joke!

by jalarsen1 on Oct 15, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs