Donovan McNabb on Sportscenter
by JasonB on Jan 30, 2009 5:00 AM EST
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PrintAfter hearing McNabb's remarks on sportscenter does anyone actually think he wants to leave Philadelphia? Despite Deion Sanders' assertion that he "knows" McNabb wants out of Philly, Donovan himself has given no indication that it's true. Here we are after the season, McNabb is on national TV and gets asked about his future here and he answers. He is looking forward to coming back, eager to see what they'll do in the draft, and hopes to be playing with the Eagles in next year's superbowl rather than covering it for ESPN.
If McNabb truly did want to leave would that not have been the perfect opportunity to launch his campaign? What is there left to speculate about? The owner and team president already said he'll back, McNabb himself said it... so what is there left to speculate about?
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Because! It’s Philly. He’s been playing his last season with the Eagles 2 years now.
I am the people's troll :3™
I’m not sure if I’d expect McNabb to just say “I want to be traded” on national TV. He’s put his foot in his mouth a couple times, but it seems like always tries to avoid controversy.
But, if he really wanted out, I’d expect him to dodge the question with “We’ll, I’ve got to sit down with Jeff and Joe and Andy and we’ll see how things play out” or something like that.
Instead, he’s just making his annual appeal for more weapons.
I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.
Donovan seemed to hint that he wanted us to make improvements via draft
Crabtree? Moreno? Harvin?
Do you think we will make it happen for Fives sake?
City of Champions!
Please not a receiver
Our receivers are fine. If you want to help McNabb out get a running back and a balanced offense. Receivers rarely come in and make an instant impact. For every Jackson there are 10 Freddie Mitchells. Backs are more likely to have an instant impact. Address the OL and RB positions. That’s how you help McNabb. We need Andrews back, too. I think the impact of not having him has been understated.
As for him wanting to leave, it sure doesn’t look that way. It appears that his tune has changed from right after the Ravens game. Then he was talking about meeting with the FO, etc.
I like our receivers too, but Donny seems a little eager to get another WR.
At least that was my impression. He want out of his way to mention how much Fitzy makes a QB look “Accurate”. And how he expects to team to ugrade some key positions in the draft and FA. I don’t know, maybe its me, but Five seems like he was lobying for some Draft WR help. There are some huge names that are availible. Harvin is little, but can be a monster w/ DJax and may be on the board. You can still get Britton @ 28.
We can also sign TE Owen Daniels as a FA. and possibly Gross. Gross will have to be a day one signing. He is considered the top FA.
These tweaks would make us a juggernaut.
City of Champions!
I’m fairly certain Daniels is a RFA… I don’t think we want to give up a first and thrid round pick to sign him…
Here’s the thing… We’re not going to just pick up another WR to say we did it. We can only get so many people on the field at the same time… And I, for one, would like to avoid returning to the whole “rotating 6 WRs in and out thing”… I suspect that we will see more consistency with the lineup, as was shown later in the year. More Jackson, Curtis, Avant… with whomever else we have on the roster mixed in every so often.
So if we pick up another WR… Where does he play? Especially if he’s a rookie… We aren’t going to march up RookieWR and Jackson as our starting two WRs… in that case, you’d have to say, Jackson and Curtis start, and Rookie WR is the third WR. But then we loose Jason Avant’s consistency on 3rd downs… See what I mean?
Honestly, if we pick up a WR… It’s going to be a later round, high upside guy… on that we don’t expect pretty much anything from for the next two seasons… just look at contracts… Curtis is here for awhile… I’m sure Jackson is too… if Avant produces well again, he will be extended…
No offense to alot of people, 2nd RBs in this league are a dime a dozen… I don’t much care who else we pick up… Just get someone to take a little load of westbrook… someone that doesn’t put the ball on the ground and can get some tough yards…
TE is the position for me to watch… I want to see what direction we are going with that position.
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
I agree with WR, disagree with RB. I want to see someone here that doesn’t complement westbrook, but will actually challenege him for the #1 RB spot. Westbrook is a very versitile player, and if you get another runner on the field teams fear more then westbrook, its scary to think what Andy could do.
TE is a position we will have to address this offseason, as is FB and OL. Alot of our Oline troubles depend if the panthers are able to retain Gross. If they let him hit market, I see the Eagles as the number one player for him.
If the Eagles sign gross, then I think it would be awesome to see them trade a first rounder for someones first rounder next year and a 2nd or 3rd round pick this year. I know they got burnt by Carolina being good this year, but I think it was a really good move for a team that consistently picks in the 2nd half of the first round.
by Clyde Simmons on Jan 30, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
I think they package both to move up.
I think we are gonna get Gross, Day 1 deal
We usually get the guy we want.
I would love to know who they like in the draft.
I would still draft another tackle in the first. Its hard to get a good tackle after the first.
They are like QBs, first round is where they go.
Safeties, CBs, RB you can get later rounds.
WR is a first round deal for the most part. I don’t know if they make a move just for five, but who knows. I like the WR we got. I guess it all depends on the kind of deals they get in the draft trade offers and depends on who they sign as FA.
City of Champions!
by yophillybro on Jan 30, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
it would be idiotic to give up both number 1s to move up.
It won’t get them high enough to make it worth it. 2 chances to get a stud or 1 ? I know everyone wants Moreno and Crabtree but Foos is right. WR is risky and it would cost WAY to much to get in the top 3 to get Crabtree. Moreno is worth the pick if he falls but seriously there are TONS of talented RB in this draft. RBs are a dime a dozen it seems every year you are hearing about a new guy making a name for himself.
We need to get some quality out of these picks. I’m not against the trading one of this years firsts for a first round next year and using the other. Either way giving up 2 first round picks for 1 is a huge risk.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Right
If you really like a guy and want to move up a little (moving down to the 2nd with the other pick), that might be OK. But 2 for 1, NO.
I don't know just a hunch I guess
I think of Chris Johnson last year. and Steve Slaton.
RB are pretty abundant now a days.
Trading up and back is not a bad Idea,
Say you like a Tackle or DE (or what ever you like). You can package both picks to get into the teens, But get another 2nd rounder in return isnt too bad a deal.
So you in essence get a higher 1, and 2 second rounders. Not bad at all.
City of Champions!
Agreed, I just wonder what Five thinks.
I agree with you that the field isn’t big enough for 4 receivers. I noticed you didn’t mention Baskett. I think he gets a nice deal somewhere else. Sorry to see him likely go.
I am like you , get another back, we really struggled running the ball.
I want a new center too. I am not a Jackson fan.
I would definately throw the kitchen sink at Gross and draft a tackle as well.
Then you can let both Jon Runyan and William Thomas go. Rookie Tackles start all the time and perform well from the jump.
I guess its all on Andrews, and how trustworthy he is. I cant trust a guy who doesn’t want to play. Wouldn’t surprise me to see him dealt. We tried to trade him last year because of his depression issue. I just want to move on from him. He is awsome, but can retire any day.
It wouldn’t surprise me to see him retire, he is only playin for the cash. He has no dog in him anymore. His heart isn’t in it.
He still produces dispite that, but may decide to hang it up any day.
City of Champions!
by yophillybro on Jan 30, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Baskett – Yeah I’m going to disregard him… To me, he’s as good as gone. I think our reliance on Avant in conversion situations helped seal Hank’s fate. Also, I think he’s going to get someone to overpay, big time, and I don’t want tha to be us. For us, especially given the Reggie Brown contract cluster fuck, Hank isn’t worth what it would take for us to sign him… let alone what he’ll ask for.
Lewis – I think we keep Lewis. I know he isn’t anyone’s favorite WR, but he’ll likely come cheap and he knows the system inside and out… He’s perfect for depth.
Reggie Brown – God I hope to hell we can find someone to trade with… I’ll take anything. I don’t care.
I see us signing a FA WR… I’m not saying they’re going to be top flight, but it’ll be a vet that can come be the #4 probably… Also, taking probably 2 WRs in the draft with high upside… Probably only retaining one after camp.
As far as the O-Line. I think there’s too many moving parts right now. More than likely, we keep either Runyan or Thomas… 2 year contract with the second year being easy to drop without too much cap hit. Basically whomever will take the deal is the one we keep. Gross is going to depend on Carolina. Personally I think they keep him; either franchise or signed. If that occurs, we most definitely take OT with our first pick. We will take an additional OT later in the draft to develop. If we do sign Gross… Maybe, just maybe, Andy breaks trend and takes a RB first trades, down with the second first round pick and takes an OT later in the draft.
But again, what do I know… I’m probably totally off base from what we’ll actually do… lol
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
Oh… I’m not too sure about what McNabb thinks. I’m sure he’d agree that if we had a little more production when we ran the ball, he’d have easier throws as well… as long as one phase improves via more talent, I think the other will take care of itself.
Incidentally, I don’t ever want to see the Eagles draft in the top 10 until there is some kind of rookie pay scale in place… it’s just not worth it. If we blew ass this year and had the 8th pick, i’d rather trade down to 18 and use the money we save on a rookie contract to sign a proven FA… just my opinion though.
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
Agreed
Incidentally, I don’t ever want to see the Eagles draft in the top 10 until there is some kind of rookie pay scale in place… it’s just not worth it. If we blew ass this year and had the 8th pick, i’d rather trade down to 18 and use the money we save on a rookie contract to sign a proven FA… just my opinion though.
I agree. I’d like to see us use our first two picks as they are, or trade down a bit with the second pick. I just don’t see a need desperate enough to warrant gambling on an early pick.
Baskett is an RFA, and since he was undrafted they aren’t going to have to tender him very highly. I suspect he’ll be around another year.
really… I thought the list i saw had him listed as UFA?
then again…. we know how reliable those lists are
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
he is RFA and we will more then likely keep him ...
which is a shame because I’d love to see him gone. I don’t know why but everyone loves Baskett and hates G-Lew when they are basically the same player.
I mean that in not the same type of player but they both disappear constantly but come up with one or two big catches and everyone gets all excited.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
I was thinking about Browns contract
Everyone know that the birds eat 5.8 mil by cutting or trading Reggie, but if he stays, hell make slightly over 3 mil just to ride the pine.
It may be worth it to just bite the bullet on the 3 million we are in the hole for with this guy.
City of Champions!
oh i know… i just cringe when i think about that fucking boat anchor he’s toating… structurly, that’s one of the worst contracts we’ve executed in the past ten years under Andy
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
the way i see if
if he gets his contract he wants, he wants to stay. if he doesn’t get it, he wants to move on lol.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
If we do bring in a receiver
The Eagles were 22nd in the league in red-zone efficiency, with 31 touchdowns in 63 drives.
Whether it’s a WR or another TE, they need to help with this. We don’t need much help moving the ball between the 20’s.
I’m thinking big / physical guy.
I’d like to see them give a chance to Ramses Barden or Kenny Britt at WR but only if we can sure up our real needs first. OL and RB are my number 1s followed by TE.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
I disagree when people say our recieving core is not a need. while our recievers are very taleted and put up big yards, notice how they rarely get in he endzone. we need one more gamebreaker at the wr position.
with that being said, we should not solve this need through the draft. rookie wide recievers (especially in this offense) rarely contribute. Desean Jackson was an anomally. we should look for a big name reciever through free agency or trade (seems we go through this every off season…) we should however pick up a good running back in the draft. running back is the easiest position for a rookie to step right into and contribute.
I did mention that
I disagree when people say our recieving core is not a need. while our recievers are very taleted and put up big yards, notice how they rarely get in he endzone. we need one more gamebreaker at the wr position.
I did say that we needed a red zone threat. Could be WR or TE.
Brandon Pettigrew
Celick has been great late in the season but an automatic playmaker at tight end would be clutch. Look what Wittin does for the Cowgirls. I think were solid at WR and yes were going to need to use a pick on eather OT or Safty but lets go after a stud TE
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Celek needs the opportunities … we have seen what he has done when he has been given the chance. I agree we need a TE for depth purposes, and preferably a blocking TE because that is were Celek struggles.
Why are people ready to give up on a 2nd year player who has only done very well when given the chance but think some rookie will come in a be the next Tony Gonzalez?
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
I like Celek, but we lost some games based on His and LJs bad blocking.
I think he missed the block in Chicago and LJ missed that block in NY both costing us games in short yardage.
Why did we cut Kris Wilson for? He was a good blocker!!!
City of Champions!
he’s gonna get bigger and stronger in the offseason… he can be taught to block… he’s got a nice ratio of size/weight/speed… that’s stuff you can’t teach… i’d rather take my chances with teaching him how to block… i’m not saying i wouldn’t draft a TE… I would… maybe two actually. Schobel and LJ are gone… I’m just saying I wouldn’t step over our OL needs to get one.
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
dont get me wrong
I believe in Celick, better work ethic then LJ and a hell of an athlete but we need depth. LJ has got to go
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