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Get off McNabb's nuts, Pt. 2

Please read the 2 sentences below and ask yourself: Am I comfortable? Am I OK?

1) Donvoan Jamal McNabb wants nothing more than a Super Bowl victory for his teammates and the city of Philadelphia.

2) Donovan Jamal McNabb wants to retire as a Philadelphia Eagle.

Got it? Is the fan base OK? Is the media OK?

I've been saying for weeks this whole "will he stay/does he want to leave/is he happy/has he lost the locker room/does he like philly"

is  complete media-driven, fan incensed NONSENSE.

The local media 'do their homework' by listening to 610 WIP to 'capture' the pulse of the city. And what geniuses like Angelo Cataldi push on the airwaves is that there is a large part of the Philly fan base that have "I love him, I hate him" relationship with McNabb. And the fans call in when McNabb plays poorly and talk about Garcia, Kolb, etc. The Bengals and Ravens game passes and people want Kolb in there, McNabb is done. The off-season came this season and McNabb is coming off injury and Kolb might be there by mid-season. Blah Blah Blah. Last season after Garcia won all those games, it was the same NONSENSE. Garcia should be the starter!

Blah Blah Blah.

The media say: "Ok, Philly wants him gone. Philly fans threw snowballs at Santa Clause. Blah Blah Blah. They're driving Donovan McNabb out." (DREAM STORY!)

It's not fair, it's not entirely true. But it is true that McNabb has to deal with ridiculous questions about his future in Philly. CONTINUALLY.

You can say that all the QBs deal with idiot fans that 'call for their heads.' But I don't remember the last news conference that Peyton Manning had to discuss his "future in Indianapolis." I don't remember the last news conference that Eli Manning had to discuss his "future in New York." I don't remember the last news conference that Jake Delhomme had to discuss his "future in Carolina."

Look back to the post game press conferences. Philly media continually ask McNabb about his future with Philly. And now the national media is catching on. Each week, a new paper writes a story about "McNabb's revival due to the benching.

Does it matter to anyone that McNabb has said that the benching did not effect his play? Does it matter to anyone that veterans like Dawkins, Thomas, Lito Sheppard, Samuel have said week in and week out that McNabb is the unquestioned leader of the team. And has the "locker room" playing together? Who gives a sh*t if Philly sports writers and WIP talking heads think McNabb is not a leader. The only indicator that matters are the other players who play football for the Philadelphia Eagles.

And they are behind 5, 100%. The fan base is only behind McNabb now because he is winning. Their complaints and idiotic criticisms of the QB don't sound too good now because the Birds are winning. If #5 loses, the same questions will intensify. Will he leave? Does he want out? BS BS BS BS BS. McNabb has NEVER said he WANTS OUT. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER. But listening to TV and Radio, you'd think the guy called for a new contract, demanded to be traded, is holding out of the playoffs, etc.

After the Dallas game, was #5 answering questions about his scrambling ability against the Cowboys? Was he asked about gaining a playoff spot? Was he asked about hitting his receivers in stride? Was he asked about his touchdown pass to Celek?

Nope, he was asked about his future in Philly.

Donovan has ALWAYS said that he wants to WIN A SUPER BOWL and RETIRE as a PHILADELPHIA EAGLE.

What don't people understand about that?

Stop asking him the same damn questions. And the fan base isn't entirely to blame. But they're not out of the woods completely.


Oh, and regarding McNabb's RIDICULOUS and IDIOTIC taunting penalty that he pulled yesterday? Who cares? They won. It didn't affect the game. He apologized to his team.

Jeff Garcia committed a 15-yard penalty against the Giants in a must-win game during the regular season back in 2006. Then he threw an interception which but the G-Men up. But no one said sh*t. You know why? Because the Birds came back to win. So don't blow #5's penalty out of proportion. Who cares?

Donovan's always had fun playing this game. He's always joking around. He's always smiling. He hasn't changed, despite a fan base that loves him when he wins and casts him aside when things don't go well. And don't forget a local media contingent that is hell-bent on BREAKING the NEWS of his DEPARTURE.

It makes me sick. Don't listen to the media or 610 WIP anymore. Just watch the game and then we can talk about McNabb's legacy on Sports Century or when he's inducted into the Hall. Because he will be. He's done more things with "minimal talent" than any QB I know.

GO EAGLES. beat the stinkin' Cards.

SUPER BOWL VICTORY IS OURS!

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Did u watch the same game I did/

If I had to list the reasons why the Eagles won yesterday McNabbs performance would be 4 th or 5th on the list .Now before all those who worship at this guys feet attack me let me say he played well . Not great but good He did throw 2 picks and had that bonehead penalty. And before u say so what they didnt hurt the eagles its only because the rest of the team was playing so well and saved his butt .Anyone watching this game without McNabb colored glasses could see that.

by JD! on Jan 12, 2009 11:31 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

were you watching the same game? McNabbs picks really werent his fault, and were more lucky if anything. Did you see the QB across the field? The QB who couldn’t through a spiral into the wind and had his passes fall short of their intended receiver. My hits on McNabb are that he doesn’t use him legs enough to spark the offense when they are slumping, and he seems to only have one pass: firing the ball as hard as he can. Yesterday, however, his arm strength was apparently. Going into the wind or with the wind, Donavon threw good passes. Yea, he had some batted down, he took a safety in end zone, but overall, I thought his play was very good.

by Clyde Simmons on Jan 12, 2009 11:42 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did you see the QB across the field? The QB who couldn’t through a spiral into the wind and had his passes fall short of their intended receiver.

+1.. mcnabb definitely did better in an away game than the opposing quarter back who is a “probowler”

http://www.libertyballers.com/

by Remis on Jan 12, 2009 6:12 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Third down.

That’s all I have to say.

Destroyer of Subject Lines :3™

by yomjoseki on Jan 12, 2009 11:46 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

seriously… all you do is come here to bitch about McNabb… we get it… you don’t like him… fantastic… now piss off already… jesus… let it go… we don’t all worship at the guys feet, but we’re not all stupid either… you’ve been here for what, 6 days? alot of us have been here for years! we’ve had discussions about McNabb’s shortcomings, but we also recognize his strengths… you just come to rant aimlessly. go start ihatedonovanmcnabb.com and leave us alone.

But T.O. and his sideline histrionics wear on a quarterback. He's like the hot stripper you tried to clean up and convert into a real girlfriend. It's a lot of fun until the moment she has her second drink while out to eat with your parents. You unravel quicker than she does.

by foos05 on Jan 12, 2009 11:48 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

absurd

The numbers didn’t show it, but I thought McNabb’s performance yesterday had to be one of his better playoff efforts. And the contrast with Manning, who was terrible, couldn’t have been much clearer.

He made good decisions, with the possible exception of the first INT—and at that point he wasn’t getting much time to throw—he managed the two-minute drill at the end of the first half, historically not a strength, exceptionally well, and he was superb in the third quarter. That 3rd and 20 completion to Avant might be the signature play of the Eagles’ playoff run so far.

I think McNabb and—amazing as it seems to write this considering where things stood two months ago—the offensive coaches deserve equal credit for the current run. Yesterday they figured out what wasn’t working through the first 28 minutes, and made the adjustments. For his part, McNabb managed the game very well, didn’t try to do too much, and kept his cool magnificently whenever things could have gotten away from them. The Curtis drop, which had me screaming obscenities, didn’t faze him at all.

by dajafi on Jan 12, 2009 1:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

McNabb played well but this story is tiring

That 3rd and 20 was a play no one else in this league could make.

Damonmoore, I have been saying this all year. I think it is the media a hell of a lot more than the fans. Kind of like the fans booed McNabb when he was drafted. We all know that isn’t true. The fans booed mgmt for not picking Ricky Williams. McNabb, himself, was not who was being booed.

I admit I am one of those fans who wanted Garcia to stay and duke it out with McNabb. Yet, 90% of the fans I spoke to about this opinion ripped my head off. And this was during Garcia’s run. (In my defense, I had supported McNabb for years and started to doubt him for this first time when Garcia went on that run) I read these blogs daily and just about anyone who has a bad thing to say about McNabb gets his head ripped off. So, I also tire of hearing about how all the fans hate McNabb and only get on his side when he is winning. That clearly is not true. I think that is true for some but the majority of fans have stayed on his side through it all. The media are the ones who make this shit into a firestorm because it must sell ads.

North Philly, are you alone in your beliefs? You have always supported him and feel those who haven’t are idiots. Do you feel you are in the minority, majority, or is it 50/50?

by Dawk on Jan 12, 2009 12:01 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Delhomme in 2006 and Eli just last year

No, Peyton has never had to answer these questions but as amazing as Donovan is, he is not Peyton Manning. Yes, Delhomme was as good as gone two years ago. Remember the Lito INT two years ago. The media did not cut him much slack. He was gone and the media was convinced. Eli was hearing about it last year and the year before (remember Tiki Barber). So, it is not just McNabb. McNabb is just a much bigger story.

To me it is the Deion Sanders’ and Jamie Dukes of the world that make the Donovan situation even more ridiculous. Not sure if you watch NFL Network but Jamie Dukes got on the air AGAIN last night and ripped Philly fans and insisted the McNabb absolutely, unequivocally wants out. He will not except anything but out. Apparently his mom cried when he was benched and you don’t mess with Wilma, so he wants out. Now I ask you today. Who is the problem here? Are the fans questioning him because they just don’t like him or are idiots like Dukes and Sanders causing the stir?

by Dawk on Jan 12, 2009 12:14 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think its 50/50 but it flucuates with win / loss

i never once doubted mcnabb , the only time i ever wanted mcnabb to be benched was coming off the injury and garcia with the nice run to start the next season (purely for 5’s health) … i wanted garcia to be extended 1-2 years to start while mcnabb sat till 100 % fully healed and hopefully garcia would of uped his trade value by then so we could of received a nice deal for him mid season or f-tagged him in the off season and let 5 take back the reigns … if someone wants to consider that doubting thats ridiculous …

with the percentage of support , it could be just me because this is who i am around … everyones friends are different , a lot of mine want kolb a lot want mcnabb … some of the fans who dont want mcnabb are just racist pricks but i dont deal with them (i just know their opinion) and some think his time is up , yada yada yada …

now i dont love anyone on the eagles more than dawkins and quite frankly im thinking of doing a sports tribute tat on my back starting with 20 covering the entire back … and other players / symbols / skyline / stadium etc in the background , i can guarantee you mcnabb will be in it if i go through with it …. thats how much im “worshiping at his feet” … for the haters , sorry i continue to support the greatest qb this franchise has ever seen …

ps dawk how is it with you and you friends ? 50/50 ? 60 /40 ?

If football had a church, Brian Dawkins would be my preacher !

by NorthPhillyKid on Jan 12, 2009 1:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I do have two other friends who are in the same boat as me. In fact, they were down on McNabb before I was. They are happily admitting now that they are happy he is at the helm. I have one aunt who is probably closer to JD than anyone else but I think she is much more down on Andy than Donovan. Every other Eagle fan that is friends with me is like you. My brother almost disowned me when I suggested Garcia should start over McNabb a couple of years ago. I am not sure I have been forgiven even today.

By the way, anyone reading any of the NY blather today? Coughlin and Eli are getting roasted. Less than a year ago they were the talk of the town. It isn’t just the fans of Philly. And I guess that is my main point.

by Dawk on Jan 12, 2009 2:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dawk, good post.
His record is 7-8. He’s tossed 22 TDs and 17 INTs in January. His completion percentage falls to 56 percent (eight points lower than his career percentage). And in his eight playoff losses, the Colts average 13 points per game.

Also, let’s not forget that in his 2006, four-game Super Bowl run, Manning threw three TDs and seven INTs. His Super Bowl MVP trophy was a gift from the media, probably a thank-you for the wonderful TV commercials.

I’m a Peyton Manning fan. His postseason play is indefensible.
Jason Whitlock

Manning probably has the best regular season numbers in history. He’s EXTRAORDINARY. But I like to play this silly game of “Who was he throwing to?” Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Brandon Stokley, Dallas Clark, etc.

And for all those who say he doesn’t have a reliable running game in Joseph Addai, lest you forget he had All-Pro Edgerrin James for 6 years, 2 of which he led the NFL in rushing.

I just don’t think McNabb has been blessed with talent around him like Manning. Translation, he has done more with less than a lot of Top-Notch QBs, besides maybe Tom Brady, but even that’s questionable.

But good post on Delhomme, Eli. When the chips are down, the media wants the QB out.

by damonmoore43 on Jan 12, 2009 2:22 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Touche'

All good points about Peyton. NE used to make him look downright awful in the playoffs. You will also never hear me saying McNabb has had the same weapons or offensive line that Peyton has been blessed with. So your point is valid there for sure. He is the golden boy. Part of that may be his image and part of that may be the market in which he plays. Maybe I am again a victim of the media but I still think Peyton has always been a better game manager than McNabb (until this season) but it is hard to argue with your logic.

I still stand by my original assessment, however. I think we as fans would beat up ANY QB who has a bad game because of the position he plays. It is not like Randall and Jaws did not hear any boos in their day. The coach has always gotten the same treatment in this town. On the overall, however, I think McNabb has always had more supporters than detractors and it is the media who is to blame for this “Is he staying or going” circus.

by Dawk on Jan 12, 2009 2:50 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree that our fanbase takes almost everything out on our QB… deserving or not…

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Jan 12, 2009 3:12 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If u stop I will

I could say the samething about McNabb Lovers. His picks arent his fault, mentioning the good never mentioning the bad. Blah blah blah. . Why not mention the edge Dawkins has this team playing on, the o line has been tremendous , even though Westbrook did very little he had a major effect on the game just by being there. Kevin Curtis Tackle on the 2nd interception, the D not giving up a td ,etc.But all we heard about is Donavan.Theres plenty of plays that led to the eagles win .No one says a word when he acts like a classless ass with the phone,.Hes supposed to be a leader or at least he says so so let him act like one.Hes more interested in acting like a deion wanna-be.

by JD! on Jan 12, 2009 12:15 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

I for one also agree with JD! that if Kolb had been in, we’d have won this game 63-11.

by ajay on Jan 12, 2009 12:38 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

+1 im surprised this wasnt a remis comment

If football had a church, Brian Dawkins would be my preacher !

by NorthPhillyKid on Jan 12, 2009 1:58 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the players say he’s the leader, but you don’t want him to be. kevin curtis let a beauty of a pass hit him in the face and fall to the ground. damn mcnabb! why did he have to throw it so accurately?! that first INT made no difference. It was third and forever, they threw a bomb to the 25 yard line. Had they punted on the next play, it’s likely that’s where the giants would have started anyways. The second INT was due to the defensive line getting penetration and knocking the ball in the air. and by the way, there is a thread giving credit to the defense as the best we’ve had. as for the phone thing, that’s a last resort for the fan who hates the best QB in franchise history. he had a good game, converted several third downs, and put the offense on his back, so the idiot bashing mcnabb has nothing to turn to but a phone call when the game was more or less over.

by eagleyosh on Jan 12, 2009 12:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lol Ajay

That should fire up all those McNabb Butt kissers.

by JD! on Jan 12, 2009 12:48 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

Eagleyosh, I don’t think he understood the sarcasm there…

by ajay on Jan 12, 2009 1:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry

I was desperate hoping to get at least 1 ally

by JD! on Jan 12, 2009 1:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

then you better head over to BBV

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Jan 12, 2009 6:16 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey EAGlESLOSH

EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES that all ive ever heard from guys like u about McNabb. Best Qb in franchise history no i dont think so . Just because there was some hokie poll on the internet ,where most of the voters arent old enough to remember anyone before bobby hoying doesnt make it so. Let me educate u. Randall was a much better QB talent wisebut he had a coach who did very little to assist him and he cared more about other things than winning. (sounds like MCNabb) Ever hear of a guy named Van Brocklin he did what McNabb never has and that was Win a championship. And then there was Tommy Thompson who lost the championship in 1947 and then won 48 and 49.Yes it was long ago but its still part of eagles history. So educate yoursel before u make stupid statements will u. AND I’LL USE ANY DAM BUTTON I FEEL LIKE !

by JD! on Jan 12, 2009 1:36 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

*you must be old as hell....

Randall made me an Eagles fan – but no… he was never the QB or the team leader that 5 is. I proudly wear “12” and thinking back to some of his stunts puts a big green grin on my face, but McNabb is simply put better. As many mistakes as he makes (and he makes a few) Randall did too. The way back squad you mention was playing a whole different game btw. But even if they weren’t, you seem to hold championships in high regard and 5 has gotten us damn close… closer than 12 ever did and he won more games than Van Brocklin and Thompson and has a beter winning percentage too.

i’m old and you went to the vault yo
*
let’s keep it to the “modern” era – since SB I

by 21510akland on Jan 12, 2009 2:00 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe u should try it

Instead of running off at the mouth do a little research and questions things too.Then maybe your ignorance wont show as much

by JD! on Jan 12, 2009 2:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why

So u can justify McNabb being the greatest If thats the case lets just put a time time limit on all records.

by JD! on Jan 12, 2009 3:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

steve van buren scored the only TD in one of those championships…

also, i find it ironic when you type for me to “educate myself”

by eagleyosh on Jan 12, 2009 3:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs


wah wah wah wah … wah wah wah wah wah wah ! wah wah wah wah !!

If football had a church, Brian Dawkins would be my preacher !

by NorthPhillyKid on Jan 12, 2009 2:01 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was for

my best friend jd

If football had a church, Brian Dawkins would be my preacher !

by NorthPhillyKid on Jan 12, 2009 2:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you need a picture of him getting bitched at by the teacher we never see

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Jan 12, 2009 2:03 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i tried

couldnt find it lol

If football had a church, Brian Dawkins would be my preacher !

by NorthPhillyKid on Jan 12, 2009 2:12 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for someone who is attempting to back up their claim with historical reference, you sould probably look in the Eagles’ all-time stat book under Quarterback… want to let us know what name is at the top of all of the lists. want to let me know who has the most postseason wins as a QB in team history? who has the lowest interception percentage in the history of the NFL? so, no… i hate to inform you that it’s not just a bunch of voters that may or may not have been alive for blah blah blah and who heard of blah blah blah…

please give me statistical data that refutes the fact that Donovan McNabb is the best quarterback in Eagles’ history. until you can do that, i’ve pretty much formed the conclusion that you’re full of shit. all you have is opinions… and you know what they say about opinions right?

and before you go there, i’m not a McNabb worshiper… i’m a “whoever gives the Eagles the best chance to win” worshiper… and weather you want to admit it or not, that’s McNabb.

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Jan 12, 2009 2:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Your fooling yourself

I ll admit that McNabb gives the eagles the best chance to win if u will admit that hes the biggest reason they havent. DEAL?

by JD! on Jan 12, 2009 2:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JD! Sure, let's examine the 6 losses and 1 tie.

Loss 1, @ Dallas, 37-41

Stat Line:

25/37 (67.6%) 281 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT (5 rushes, 20 yards)

Must have been McNabb that gave up 41 points to the Cowboys and 300+ passing from Tony Romo. (QB Rating of 123.2)

If McNabb is to blame for this loss for the botched handoff to Westbrook in the 4th quarter, then JD! be my guest.

Loss 2, @ Chicago, 20-24

Stat Line:

25/41 (61%) 262 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

Must have been McNabb’s fault that Westbrook didn’t play.
Must have been McNabb’s fault for leading the Eagles, down 20-24 in the 4th quarter, 75 yards down to the Bears 1 yard line.
Must have been McNabb’s fault for not gaining 1 yard on 3 consecutive runs by Tony Brown and Correll Buckhalter (2X).
Mind you the Defense, which played extraordinary, gave up Orton’s career best 3 TD passes.

If McNabb is to blame for this loss and not the Eagles inability to run the ball effectively, then JD! be my guest.

Loss 3, Washington, 17-23

Stat Line:

17/29 (58.6%) 196 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

Must have been McNabb that the Eagles blew a 14-0 first half lead.
Must have been McNabb’s fault that Westbrook gained a measley 33 yards on 12 carries.
Must have been McNabb’s fault that, for the 2nd week in a row, the Eagles reached the 2 yard line and couldn’t get in in. (Westbrook stopped for no gain and then lost 3 yards)
Must have been McNabb who allowed Clinton Portis to run all over the field for 145 yards and a touchdown.

If McNabb is to blame for this loss, then JD! be my guest.

Loss 4, New York Giants 31-36

Stat Line:

17/36 (47.2%) 194 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT (3 rushes, 35 yards)

Must have been McNabb’s fault that he led the team in rushing with 35 yards!
Must have been McNabb who allowed 219 yards rushing.
Must have been McNabb who got stopped on 3rd and 1 and then on 4th and 1 with the game on the line in the 4th.

If McNabb is to blame for this loss, then JD! be my guest.

Tie 1, @ Cincinnati, 10-10

Stat Line:

28/58 (48.3%) 339 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT

McNabb was horrible. No need to try to justify that one. But the Eagles did not lose. Had they lost. Had McNabb not led the game-tying drive with less than 6 minutes to go in the 4th, the Eagles would be watching the playoffs with me and you this Sunday.

JD! I’ll give you this one.

Loss 5, @ Baltimore, 7-36

Stat Line:

8/18 (44.4%) 59 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT

I don’t even feel like getting into this one. The score at the half was 10-7. McNabb had a terrible, terrible, terrible half. But the benching was NOT justified.

By the end of the game, it was a 36-7 loss.

I will not put this loss on McNabb because he did not have a chance to redeem himself.

And that’s not fair.

So JD!, you can’t be my guest on this one.

Loss 6, @ Washington, 3-10

Stat Line:

25/46 (56.5%) 230 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

Must have been McNabb’s fault Desean Jackson dropped 3 balls, including the game-tying touchdown with less than 2 minutes to go in the game.
Must have been McNabb’s fault that LJ Smith dropped 2 balls.
Must have been McNabb’s fault that Westbrook gained a mere 45 yards on 12 carries. (heckuva a running game, isn’t it?)
Must have been McNabb’s fault for leading his team down the field for the game-tying touchdown and having Reggie Brown catch the ball outside of the end zone.

If McNabb is to blame for this loss, then JD! be my guest.

There you have it. Wow, what a complete waste of time to prove that McNabb isn’t the biggest reason they have lost games this year. The Bengals game? Definitely. Got you there. He was HORRIBLE. But I’m not honoring any of that other nonsense. The EAGLES would be nowhere without #5.

by damonmoore43 on Jan 12, 2009 3:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Good write up

Nice effort to back #5. Gonna rec this comment.

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 12, 2009 5:14 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

JD is funny. He rips on "McNabb butt-kissers for saying he only does good things and overlooking his flaws, but he does the exact same thing on the other side. Nothing McNabb does can ever be right. LOL

by frameoncue on Jan 12, 2009 3:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey JD!

I hope your “dam” holds!

by eagleyosh on Jan 12, 2009 2:40 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WHY ARE WE ARGUING!??!?

were in the F’n NFC championship game against the cardinals!!

any cowgirls, skins, or giants fans reading this must be thinking they accidently got on the jets blog somehow

by Manoovi on Jan 12, 2009 4:13 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its a blog

for discussion and occasionally arguing

If football had a church, Brian Dawkins would be my preacher !

by NorthPhillyKid on Jan 12, 2009 8:09 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

in our case constant arguing but hey that's why we are Eagles fans right?

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Jan 12, 2009 8:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we have a rep to protect

keep arguing!

Who wants to play Leapfrog with Trent?

by anuj on Jan 12, 2009 9:00 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JD your wrong!

McNabb was voted the best QB in Eagle history because HE IS THE BEST IN EAGLE HISTORY. You say Norm Van Brocklin? Who was an Eagle for 3 years. He’s in the HOF because of his LA Ram career. In his 3 years as an Eagle he threw 55 TD’s vs 51 Int’s in the 36 regular season games. And he had a receiver named McDonald to throw to. Tommy Thompson had a HOF receiver by the name of Pete Pihos to throw to. I never saw Thompson play, but I did see Van Brocklin, Sonny Jurgensen, Roman Gabriel, Ron Jaworski, Randall Cunningham, and all the King HIll’s and Bobby Hoying’s in between. And who has McNabb had to throw to? You say its all about winning championships. Guess if Miami went all the way this year that would have put Pennington ahead of Dan Marino. There are plenty of HOF ers who never won the big one. McNabb is on the cusp of the HOF now, the championship would only guarantee it. Why don’t you take a good look and appreciate what he has accomplished and what he has done for this team.
HOW BOUT DEM BIRDS1111

by EagleEd on Jan 12, 2009 5:06 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK EDDIE

Explain to me the why that even though they have had the best chance since 2002 to win a championship ,easy Division for most of those years which lead to a high seeding which led to having home games against lesser team etc., EXPLAIN TO ME why they have never won.

by JD! on Jan 12, 2009 5:25 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh

So we just forget about the super bowl then ? Alright then if the Eagles win in arizona next sunday who cares about the next game which takes place 2 weeks later.

by JD! on Jan 12, 2009 6:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ironic

the monday after the titans (1 seed in afc), the giants (1 seed in NFC and defending champs), and the panthers (2 seed in the NFC) all lost, while the 2 six seeds and a 4 seed remain. the steelers are the highest seed left with the 2 seed. also, have you heard of the patriots? that team made it difficult for anyone to win a SB this decade.

by eagleyosh on Jan 12, 2009 5:38 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What can i say the league stinks.Maybe it wouldnt have been so hard for the eagles to beat NE had Donny not thrown 3 picks and gave his team a better chance to win. A little better clock managment might have helped as well.

by JD! on Jan 12, 2009 6:08 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no your right it’s not like he threw 30/51 for 357 yards and 3 TDs. I mean you could argue that had Westbrook had more then 44 yards rushing (1 for 22) we might have had a better chance (I mean 3 yards per carry doesn’t cut it).

One of McNabbs picks was with 9 seconds left as he was trying to win it for his team, he had to put them on his shoulders and after a nice performance came up short, I think there is an argument that he needed a little more help from the running game or the D. Or how about the O Line who gave up 4 sacks and couldn’t keep McNabb off his back.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Jan 12, 2009 6:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe you haven’t noticed JD, but this is a team sport, one guy, no matter how good, can’t do it all.

by EagleEd on Jan 12, 2009 6:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JD

why even bother with this dude he is a everybody except eagles fan who cares about him

by FLAeagle on Jan 12, 2009 7:47 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you have a point

i feel like we’re arguing with a brick wall, but the wall absorbs more

by eagleyosh on Jan 12, 2009 8:21 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

find one stat to support your point of view. just one, and maybe this will actually turn into a real conversation.

by GreenInBaltimore on Jan 12, 2009 8:38 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HOW ABOUT

10points vs Tampa 2002 3 points vs Carolina hows that for starters

by JD! on Jan 12, 2009 9:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I got your back JD!

We will take em together. Lemme at em. btw, what fan are you?

Who wants to play Leapfrog with Trent?

by anuj on Jan 12, 2009 9:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why even bother with this dude he is a everybody except eagles fan who cares about him

lets just not reply to his comments all of us we did this before and the dude went away

"My first and foremost goal is to win a Super Bowl. I also set goals in terms of having a type of year to make the Pro Bowl. If I'm going to the Pro Bowl, I know I'm making plays for the team." Brian Dawkins

by EAGLE_MAN71 on Jan 13, 2009 2:25 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This discussion

became a skimmer about 10 posts in.

I even skipped ahead to see if it got good, but no haps.

by D3Keith on Jan 13, 2009 2:27 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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