Eagles at Bears 4th quarter open thread
by JasonB on Sep 28, 2008 11:06 PM EDT
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At the start of the 4th quarter it's Bears 21, Eagles 20
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"Shoes" McNabb!
Looking Mean in Kelly Green
by goodfella46er on Sep 28, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You have to go for it and if you don’t make it, the Bears are on the 8" line and have to move it against us.
Destroyer of Subject Lines :3™
biggest line in the league … give em credit for running four times.
They just don’t deserve to win this one.
’Taint over though!
And Andy Reid is a fat fool who did an especially terrible job of preparing his team for this defense.
We have to be fair. We’re missing 4 starters on offense here. That has to have some effect. Especially our #1 weapon.
the D might have given up 24 points but they are certainly not the blame
Our Red Zone Offense gets the title yet again … last year all over
Redskins gonna be all kinda overconfident next week.
Birds humbled. This was that dog game they lose from time to time from the very start. Glad I didn’t record it.
we thought that from the Cowboys game
and they barely beat the Steelers … if our offense can’t find a way to score with or without Westy we are doomed
I'm going back
to see what we look like in the RZ
by cavortingEagle on Sep 28, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
it all comes down to points off of turnovers in my mind
and obviously the horrible execution of our O in the red zone
why wasn't there a challenge?
If Roehtlisberger scored in the Super Bowl, that could have been one. And why not sneak???
why cant we bootleg with mcnabb inside the 5…it aint rocket science….we gon playfake a pitch and expect the bears to fall for that
playcalls.
run the ball 3 straight times inside the 5???
dmac is the qb…so many different options can be used in this situation
what the fuck
what the fucking FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This stupid FUCING TEAM ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?!?! THE BEARS SUCK!
my boys.......
had a tough losss today but thanks to the eagirls i got over it real quick lmaooo
Whatever
We should have put them away
by cavortingEagle on Sep 28, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Call me a jerk
but Schobell lost that game for us. Buck would have been in if Schobell’s man didn’t grab him around the neck. He literally didn’t even make contact with the dude he was supposed to block.
Schobel was supposed to block down it looked like
So he was following his assignment. A lot of things lost the game, but I don’t think Schobel was it. Knowing the Eagles, I’m shocked they didn’t pass on 2nd or 3rd down. And Tony Hunt’s run was really bad, he had some room, but cut outside? Fullbacks don’t cut outside at the 1.
The Culprits
1. Schoebel – useless – can’t catch, can’t block
2. Booker – this guy is a fraud
3. Reggie Who?
4. DSJ – hate to put him on the list, but there it is
5. Reid – how about a bootleg or QB sneak?
The 50 yarder wasn’t his fault. Why didn’t Reid have them go for it there, or punt it?
Did anyone think Akers could make a 50-yarder? He’s completely done and everyone but Reid knows it.
"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron
Who was the kid placekicker from Training Camp?
I hope Andy has his number somewhere.
f you can’t make them past 40, you’re not an NFL kicker.
It's not the end of the world.
They’re 2-2. But our D looks like one of the best units in the league. DJack continues to look like a player. McNabb is looking great. And despite injuries to our best offensive player, best olineman and top WR, we were an inch (and maybe that was a TD – I still think that overhead view showed the tip cross the plane) from beating a Bears team that played out of its ass. With Westbrook, this came would have been a blowout.
You are correct
According to the standings that’s true. But the season is 1/4 over. The Eagles have a good shot to win four straight and end 6-2 after week 9.
I wish I had your optimism right now!
This is dejavu – same feeling from last year’s Bears game.
Last year that loss effectively kept us out of the playoffs. This win will mean A LOT in a bad way before this season is all over.
Pathetic showing from secondary
Kyle Fucking Orton throwing three touchdowns?
How the fuck does that happen?
That wasn’t why we lost. 2 times we had first and goal from inside the 5. The defense did more than enough to win tonight
No
Gocong was forced to cover a tight end sprinting 20 yards down the field. Where was the safety? We do have two safeties on the field at all times, right? Are the safeties no longer expected to cover the endzone?
A TE, that's the point?
It wasn’t a WR. It was a TE, and Gocong – like he does a lot – didn’t read pass right away and got caught looking into the backfield and was burned.
Nope
Gocong was running to cover the pass the entire play. Mikell was the one who spent the first two seconds backpedalling slowly while watching the backfield, and he was the safety lined up on that side of the field. God only knows what Dawkins was thinking, as there were no good TV shots of him. However, Samuel had his man covered all the way, and Brown didn’t have a man to cover after he broke off the route for a short in, so it makes you wonder what he was doing giving help to the two corners instead of helping cover two tight ends.
I’d like to see Gocong do a better job, but honestly that’s a bad mismatch. A safety should be there.
It was probably a well designed play
that drew the safeties, or maybe it was a blitz, I don’t remember. Still, Gocong has physical skills but he’s pretty atrocious at reading pass vs. run and he’s not that great at shedding blocks either.
The Gocong TD
The Bears lined up
WR WR OLINE TE TE
………………RB QB
Samuel and Brown were on the left with Gaither. Dawkins was deep middle. Mikell was halfway up covering the inside Tight End while Gocong had the outside Tight End. The Bears only sent the two wideouts and two tight ends on patterns, while the Eagles only rushed 4, so 7 were covering 4.
Dawkins just sat in the middle of the endzone and failed to make a decision as to which side he would cover. He ended up jogging slowly towards Olsen. Mikell failed to get deep once his man turned a short out which Bradley covered from the MIKE position. Brown didnt go deep when his man turned a short in which Gaither covered from the WILL.
At the end of the play, Brown is standing still covering no one, Dawkins is jogging around the middle of the end zone, having failed to pick up on the idea of giving deep help to a safety and a SAM linebacker covering two tight ends alone. Mikell is trailing Olsen badly.
How many defenses call for the SAM to cover a man with no safety help for 20 yards? I’d think it would be zero.
Yes it is
You cant give up 24 points in the NFL and expect to win. There is no way Kyle Fucking Orton should go about having a career day while getting sacked 4 times, intercepted twice, and fumbling the ball away twice. Three 20+ yard touchdown passes is damn well the fault of the secondary. Where was the coverage?
I've been wondering that too
From that top angle it looked like a TD. Why doesn’t the NFL institute an automatic review of any TD on non-TD call. And can a ref really see a ball in the middle of the pile and whether it crosses an invisible plane? The game obviously never should have come down to this. This should have been a blowout.
Sheldon Brown was right
“What’s the point of getting turnovers if you don’t do anything with the ball?”
Hate to say it,
but without Westbrook our offense just isn’t the same. He gets in the end zone on those goal line plays.
Yeah. I just didn’t expect us to be completely inept without Westbrook.
"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron
andy reid on the lack of a QB sneak:
“well… my QB was a little sore… I didnt want to put him in that position… THIS WEEK”
ummmmmm you played him for the entire game and let him throw 41 passes… WTF ANDY???
Man.
You shouldn’t lose a game if you lead in the turnover category.
i mean WTF
they were beggin to get blown out consistently giving us good field posistion. Just all around terrible. Andrews, Curtis, Westbrook, LJ…….get healthy.
Field position?
The Eagles started drives on the 20, 26, 20, 13, 33, CHI 41, 23, 4, 4, 20, CHI 35, CHI 28, 16, CHI 31, 24, 39. They had 16 drives, and only 5 were in good field position, while 10 were inside their own 26. Thats mostly terrible field position.
Chicago started just one drive on the 20, one of the 3, and one on the 1. The rest of their drives were from 27 yards or further out. They started 10 drives from their 35 or further out. They lost about 80-100 yards on changes of possession.
Night Games
Eagles are something like 2-14 in Night Games since losing the Super Bowl. Im really starting to hate night games.
Red Zone Offense
That’s what it is to me more than anything.
Not just the last drive where they got zero but the two in the second half where they kicked field goals.
Way too close to the goal line way too many times with way too few TDs.
Blame whatever else you want, I’m sticking with that.
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