Eagles lose Texas shootout 41-37
by JasonB on Sep 16, 2008 12:34 AM EDT
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Shockingly, it was Tony Kornheiser who I made a point I think we have to remember. The Eagles and Cowboys have to have emerged from that game thinking "who is better than the two of us?" That was a classic game. An absolute war of attrition were both teams can leave with their head held high. The home team edged this one out, but round two in week 17 when they come to our house and that should be something to behold. I just hope in the final week of the season that the game means enough for both teams to go as all out as they did tonight. Dallas held serve here, but there's not much between these two teams.
Onto the headlines
If I had to pick one play...
It had to be the botched handoff from McNabb to Westbrook in the 4th quarter. The blame certainly looks like it goes to McNabb on that one as it looked like he started to pull the ball away from Westbrook at the last moment. Until then, the Eagles had not turned the ball over... That one mistake was all it took in a game like this to turn the tide. The Cowboys scored on the ensuing possession and the game finished at that score.
That said, when your defense gives up 34 points it's hard to lay the blame on one offensive mistake. Which leads me to the next headline.
The offense is for real, the defense however....
The Eagles destroyed the Rams in week one with a performance where they looked dominating on both sides of the ball. The question coming into this week was how much of that was real and how much of it was the fact that the Rams are possibly the worst team in football? Well, we got some answers tonight.
The offense is for real. They put up 30 on what was supposed to be a good Dallas defense(and probably will be) and moved the ball at will for most of the game. McNabb had a great game(although there was some iffy decision making at the end), Westbrook was racking up TDs... most everything went quite well offensively. I think they showed tonight that they can play with any team in this league. And by the way they did it again without both their starting WRs.
The defense, however, I just can't say the same. I'll start with the good. They did get two turnovers, the Asante pick and the Gocong recovery for a TD of a Romo fumble. They held the Cowboys to just 68 yards rushing... Honestly, those should be signs of a really good performance. You stuff their run game, score a defensive TD, and get two turnovers. Problem is, in the other stats that matter they got dominated. The reason is all too clear, lack of pressure. Like I said before the game, the Eagles forced Romo into the two worst performances of his career for one reason only, pressure. He was sacked 7 total times in those two games. Tonight the Eagles failed to register a sack. If you can't pressure the passer, especially against good teams, you open yourself to getting picked apart.
Oh yeah... and Sean Considine sucks.
Did Westbrook have magnets in his facemask?
Is it just me or did the Cowboys grab Westbrook by the facemask an amazing amount of times? Between the times it was called and the times it wasn't I lost count of how many times Westbrook's facemask was grabbed.
Westbrook had 3 TDs on the night.
Desean Jackson makes history
First, Desean Jackson nearly made history with one of the more boneheaded plays you'll ever see. After he smokes two defenders down the middle of the field and makes a fantastic catch, he tosses the ball behind him about a half yard before he crosses the goal line negating a TD. Lucky for him, Brian Westbrook bailed him out with a leaping TD run from the one on the next play.
On the postive side... Desean became just the second rookie WR to have two 100+ yard games to start his career.
Desean finished with 6 catches for 110 yards.
Don't get too down
It always sucks to lose. It always really sucks to lose to a division rival. It always really really sucks to lose to Dallas... but don't get too down over this one. The Eagles showed tonight that there is very little between these two teams and this is a game that should give them the confidence to know that they can play with anyone. They have some real questions to answer on defense, but I think either way we know that this is not a bad Eagles team. This is a pretty good team that we should expect good things from this year. For that, we shouldn't get too down.
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Great game.
That was a white knuckle game. Whew. McNabb is scary good.
by sdcowboyfan on Sep 16, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the fumble lost that game
The Defense should have held up after the fumble!!!
I just lost a bet to the Cowboys fan, Once again my Iggles have let me down in my time of need. I should be ashamed of myself for under-estimating the Cowboys. They are truely Americas team.
by yophillybro on Sep 16, 2008 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome game
That game blew my mind. I was nervous the entire time. It seems McNabb screwed up at the very end, despite having a great game. That DeSean Jackson is fast.
thelandryhat.com New Coach, Same America's Team
by thelandryhat on Sep 16, 2008 12:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
rough one guys
but at least there is hope. Cowboys are a tough team, as much as I hate to admit that. We stood up to them, and very much could have won (one bad bounce!) still, let’s forget about this and take care of the steelers next week. We need to come out of the first 3 weeks 2-1.
by CMax on Sep 16, 2008 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
After a game like this, you have to have a grudging respect for the opponent. This was a war and I’m not sure there is another team in the league that could have kept up with either team.
In fact, the only team that could have kept pace in this game is also in this division…. I said in our NFC East roundtable before the season that I thought the AFC South was a bit better overall than the NFC East… lol was that ever wrong!
by JasonB on Sep 16, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you hit the nail on the head
After a game like this, you have to have a grudging respect for the opponent. This was a war and I’m not sure there is another team in the league that could have kept up with either team.
by NickPampani on Sep 16, 2008 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clear cut 1 and 2. Didn't really matter who won, those were the best 2 team in football.
I just lost a bet to the Cowboys fan, Once again my Iggles have let me down in my time of need. I should be ashamed of myself for under-estimating the Cowboys. They are truely Americas team.
by yophillybro on Sep 16, 2008 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’ll see about that. I’m not good at taking positives out of a loss.
The Steelers will be a good test, and while I have yet to see much of the Giants this season, if they do a better job getting to the QB than the Eagles did, I expect they’ll have a good chance to beat Dallas.
"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron
by BrianS on Sep 16, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
thanks to the classy cowboy fans who posted before me. I may eat my words later, but i’m happy to see there’s no trolling. Good game guys.
by CMax on Sep 16, 2008 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
kudos......This was an instant classic....Epic matchup.....15 round bout....
The Dallas Cowboys just won a close decision in the ring……
JasonB sums it up pretty good-
That was a classic game. An absolute war of attrition were both teams can leave with their head held high….
I have a feeling these two teams will be playing a 3rd game this year…….NFC Title Game
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Sep 16, 2008 12:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Game
Hats off to the Eagles. This game filled a highlight film in the first half.
McNabb is definitely back and it means trouble for the rest of the league, especially the NFC East.
I’ve always hated the Eagles but they have completely earned my respect….along with the people of Philadelphia. My wife and I had a great time in the City of Brotherly Love last summer.
If the Eagles make it to the Superbowl, I’ll be wearing green.
by egarc on Sep 16, 2008 12:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to be honest here...
I have always said that I wished Donovan McNabb played for someone other than the Eagles. When he is healthy he is an absolutely incredible athlete and quarterback and I wished I could root for him more than I do. He just amazing to watch, and frustrating as hell if you’re a Cowboys fan.
The Eagles are a pretty damn good team, and they have a lot of confidence. Good luck next week against the freakin’ Steelers.
by Brandon Worley on Sep 16, 2008 12:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
exciting game but we shouldve won
Our secondary was totally disgusting. When you can put 3 pro bowl corners on the field and let a TE get that many yards, its pathetic. I know witten is one of the best but you should never get beat deep by a TE. I dont know why considine is on the team either. Everyone knew he sucked before the season, and he just proved us right. I like demps back there way better than him. Dawkins better strap up next week. He played terrible. Thank you to the cowboy fans btw for not coming in here and bragging about the win. We all know that if the ball bounced a different way or sean considine was cut, it couldve been completely different.
by andyb on Sep 16, 2008 1:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eagle secondary played well he second half
Blame those TE passes on Dawkins and the LBs especially Steward Bradley, He looked bad in coverage.
I just lost a bet to the Cowboys fan, Once again my Iggles have let me down in my time of need. I should be ashamed of myself for under-estimating the Cowboys. They are truely Americas team.
by yophillybro on Sep 16, 2008 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No LB or safety is able to cover Witten
that was evident last night. Witten and TO have been trouble for the Eagles in the past and last night was no exception. Leave TO one on one with anyone, even Lito and he eats them up. When they went to more double coverage on TO in the second half that gave Witten more looks. Great game, Mcnabb looked great. Too bad our next game at the Linc may not mean anything if things go down like we want. Good luck next week! See you in December…..
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Sep 16, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
could also decide the division… never know
by foos05 on Sep 16, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know
dont get me wrong i think TO is one of the best if not THE best receiver ever. just look at his numbers size strength and shear presence and he is a bit overwhelming to a D but the eagles have had his number all except this game… where he still only had 3 catches.
against the eagles he only has one game with 10 catches and over a hundred yards. no other game has he had more than 3 catches since he has been with Dallas and he has a total of 20 catches and 368 yards with 4 TDs in 5 games. that is 4 catches per game. just under 74 ypg and less than a TD a game.
by NickPampani on Sep 16, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nov 7th 2007 at the Linc TO had 174 Yds and 1 TD
He was injured in the 10-6 loss at Texas Stadium last December and didn’t put up good numbers.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Sep 16, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
didnt i mention that game
those stats are all inclusive. i ocunted every game he played against the eagles since he was with dallas just as the record books had them.
by NickPampani on Sep 16, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously. how many times does he need to get beat like a red-headed step child before we just end the “Considine Experiment”
by foos05 on Sep 16, 2008 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely different game if Considine didn’t completely blow it. You can forgive McNabb’s handoff botch because he damn near played perfect other than those, and he bailed us out of trouble tonight more times than I can count. I’m not sure how Dallas scored 41 points. We handled Barber pretty well, TO did very little (other than the blown coverage by Considine).
Witten’s a beast obviously. We fucked up on special teams. We just didn’t make the plays we had to. And, as suggested before, their o-line decimated everyone trying to get to Romo.
I’m not sure if it was the play calling by Jim Johnson or lack of execution, but I did not like what I saw.
Destroyer of Subject Lines :3™
by yomjoseki on Sep 16, 2008 1:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Yes
Felix Jones had me poopin my pants every kick return. They got to fix that up.
I just lost a bet to the Cowboys fan, Once again my Iggles have let me down in my time of need. I should be ashamed of myself for under-estimating the Cowboys. They are truely Americas team.
by yophillybro on Sep 16, 2008 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me Too
This was an awesome game!
One of the few that I can Actually say WOW!
What A Game…..It was back And forth all Night long.
Our dee
was at your mercy for most of the night!
Big plays…exciting Game
You guys are for REAL!
WE WILL meet AGAIN…..TWICE!!!!
Its gonna come between the two of us as to who goes to the next super bowl….
this was a heavyweight fight…the first of 3
It’s gonna be a great SEASON!
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Sep 16, 2008 1:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Much props to gracious Cowboys fans, by the way.
Destroyer of Subject Lines :3™
by yomjoseki on Sep 16, 2008 1:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I guess I hate the Cowboys team, fans are OK. With Exception to the Cock roaches in Philly. We have a good enough team to root for our own town, not Dallas…
I just lost a bet to the Cowboys fan, Once again my Iggles have let me down in my time of need. I should be ashamed of myself for under-estimating the Cowboys. They are truely Americas team.
by yophillybro on Sep 16, 2008 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Actually A Little Impressed...Maybe I'll Stick Around A Little Longer.....
Yuse Mooks have a couple of good posters but none of them start with whodie; foos; or remis……
they appear to be mouth breathing Gorillas…..
I liked alot of the breakdown by D3Keith or something like that…he seems to know his stuff…just saying…and I never give post game smack talk…too Karma enhancing…..
by Danny Snyder's Shoe Lifts on Sep 16, 2008 1:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they do have good things to say
but you’re just really annoying. even the cowboys fans were annoyed with you on btb. do us a favor and just go away, thanks
by eagleyosh on Sep 16, 2008 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yay butt [and that's an inside joke BTW]
they don’t get the sense of humor on that blog either right now…they like everything “nice nice” with the Training Wheels secured firmly on the bike…at some point you may get a sense of humor…I swear…I’ve never written anybody off within 4 days…butt I don’t know…
Keep it up yoshi…perhaps we can share some Iggles Giggles later on during the season LAWLZ
by Danny Snyder's Shoe Lifts on Sep 16, 2008 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there is no humor to get…you’re your only fan. i’m anxiously awaiting your condescending reply (sarcasm).
by eagleyosh on Sep 16, 2008 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really annoying/you’re your only fan.- to true +1 eagleyosh
wow – Danny Snyder’s Shoe Lifts-is really annoying he probably is his only fan and friend . for the most part everybody seemed respectful and cool , until mr annoying sarcasm chimed in. [cmax- thanks to the classy cowboy fans who posted ,i’m happy to see there’s no trolling. Good game guys.] you know after cmax posted these nice words there had to be that one person thinking i can screw this up iam that guy- enter MR ANNOYING SARCASM TROLL
2008/2009 the body bag season
by EAGLE_MAN71 on Sep 16, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true troll Danny Snyder's Shoe Lifts
if he is such a cowgirl fan , how come he doesnt have a blog membership to blogging the boys , only bleeding green sept 15th 2008, true troll colors
2008/2009 the body bag season
by EAGLE_MAN71 on Sep 17, 2008 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those are my homies. If you got beef with dem, u got it w/ me 2 bro :)
I just lost a bet to the Cowboys fan, Once again my Iggles have let me down in my time of need. I should be ashamed of myself for under-estimating the Cowboys. They are truely Americas team.
by yophillybro on Sep 16, 2008 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great game!
I’m over from Blogging the Boys, and I have to say that this game is what NFL football is all about. I know it’s easy to say when you win a game, but the season is early and Philly was outrageously good. By the time these two teams meet again it’s going to be another storyline. I have a feeling it might be for the NFC East crown. By then your receivers will be back and healthy, and we’ll all have a season under out belts. But that’s discounting the Giants, which can’t be done yet. But my money is on Philly over NY anyday after today.
Wow. Just wow.
What’s the game without a great rivalry. This really lived up to it.
by Doc Holliday on Sep 16, 2008 1:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Beagle Ypsh just stole my Sprinkler Key!!!!!!!!!
your being exclusive now little Yosh as how do you know I’m my only fan?
Have you taken a poll?
Have you asked your neighbors and their immediate family?
My guess is that there are plenty of Iggle Fanz that laughed at the impudence of a Jeffrey Lurlie et al and laughed at all the Cowboy Fanz coming over here for a pre-game smack fest and are now shying away from the post game smack fest…see, Its called “Class” after the results are final…not 1 Cowboy fan that I have seen has come over and talked smack…I’m sure if the results were opposite it would be insufferable the other way…..
I’m also not taking 1 iota out of tonite’s results or do I care about a game #2 result as at the end of the year circumstances could be significantly different in the Iggles favor…but for right now?!?!?!…you should learn humor my friend and realize this really does not matter in the higher scheme of things…..
there are still 14 more games to play and enjoy…..
by Danny Snyder's Shoe Lifts on Sep 16, 2008 1:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great game.....and....
i dont think you have to be worried about your defence…it was just 2 great offences going to war…i feel good about our defence to say they kept us in the game against the eagles offence, and the same goes for you guy’s…imo you have one of the best defencive cord. in the nfl….and a ton of talent….anyway that game was sick,and so was i…..that is a team to respect no doubt……stay healthy….
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
by hashishkabob on Sep 16, 2008 2:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Eagles played an inspired game...
we couldn’t stop you guys but at the same time you couldn’t stop us. Classic shootout.
We’ll see you guys soon and until then relive this epic Cowboy victory over and over again. That’s what we had to deal with after that December loss at home and I hope this hurt just as much. Just being honest.
Great game for McNabb. Great playcalling by Reid. The Westbrook fumble saved us. If not for that, it might be a different story.
America’s Team prevails again! Lol.
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on Sep 16, 2008 2:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
Westbrook was not credited with one fumble tonite according to MNF crew – all the fumbles were charged to McFlabb…not sure it matters in the grand scheme of things but just saying…..
by Danny Snyder's Shoe Lifts on Sep 16, 2008 2:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I wanna scale back the harshness of my earlier statement. Romo made some spectacular throws. It’s not like the blame falls squarely on our defense. However, they’re going to need to do better. Luckily, we don’t face the Cowboys every week though.
Destroyer of Subject Lines :3™
by yomjoseki on Sep 16, 2008 2:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sheesh
What a game! I was watching mostly because Monday Night Football is the party place to be, but also to see what we (Steelers) are gonna be up against next week. It will certainly be a great game, and if you guys shut down the run like you pretty much did today, then we’ll have some issues on our hands. I see us needing to step up in a huge way on defense for anything good to happen.
Congrats on a marvelous showcase of what your team is capable of. I don’t watch too many Philly games, so I had forgotten how beastly Westbrook really is! And I’ve always been a casual fan of McNabb, so that added another layer of fun. Anyway, there were so many great moments in that game that I’m gonna catch the highlights again.
Looking forward to next week’s Powerhouse Showdown II.
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on Sep 16, 2008 4:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Next weeks game
could be the Super Bowl
by NickPampani on Sep 16, 2008 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great game
but I can’t still can’t decide whether these teams have over-hyped defenses or incredible offenses. I am leaning toward the offenses. McNabb and Romo were amazing, and you guys have really found something in Jackson. Nice pick up.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Sep 16, 2008 7:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"over-hyped defenses or incredible offenses"
I think we’re all trying to figure that out today…
by JasonB on Sep 16, 2008 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i really dont think our deffence is that bad
we just havent found that groove. once we see where our DBs fall then we can get stuff done. i really think Demps will has a big impact year this year and we will see alot of different packeges.
really i think it would have been perfect to have a ball hog at saftey,like demps, since there was a couple balls over thrown.
and he would of probably helped over the top on that owens TD
by NickPampani on Sep 16, 2008 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Props
to the cowboys fans on this thread. Appreciate your posts. I’m at work and dont have to time to do the figuring but wouldnt the Eagles and Cowboys have to finish 1-2 or 1-4 or 1-6 to face each other in the NFC Championship game??
My only quick comment about the game (because most of the rest has been covered)… My dad is a cowboys fan (i know i know…) and he was complaining this morning about the pass interference call that gave us the ball on the 1. I see his point, but in this league if the corner doesnt turn to look for the ball and there is contact, its going to be Defensive PI everytime
http://vimeo.com/1590229
by 700 Level on Sep 16, 2008 8:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There were missed calls on both sides...
The Cowboys got away with at least 2 more face mask penalties.
On the PI call, I will say this: tough to turn and look at the ball when the front of your jersey is being used for leverage…
by Brandon Worley on Sep 16, 2008 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i would of easly traded these refs
for the ones at the charger game. acutualy knowing who the ref of that game was he is very good and this game would have been completely different if he was here. i saw alot of face maskes and alot of holding. mostly on Dallas but some with philly as well.
by NickPampani on Sep 16, 2008 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Championship game
I think that for Dallas and Philly to meet in the NFC championship game, the teams will probably have to finish 1-5 or 2-6. Both can’t be top 4, because one will be a wild-card. If it’s 1-5, then they could play each other if the #6 team makes it past the bye week and upsets someone. If they’re 2-6, then the #6 seed will have to knock out the #1 to clear the way. It seems unlikely to me; more likely, it will be like the NY-DAL game last year in the playoffs, where they meet after the bye week. I’m not sure what happens if Dallas/Philly is the 3rd or 4th seed, but I don’t think we’re going to need to worry about that. I guess if we’re both 5-6 and keep winning, it could happen, too.
The refs were pretty uneven but kept order. I hear what you are saying about that PI, but it looked like the WR was holding Henry’s arm and jersey and pulled Henry into him. Hard to say for sure. But you’re right, unless the CB looks for the ball, that’s usually going to be defensive PI.
by grapejoos on Sep 16, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha true!
I think Jason B mentioned this earlier, but i dont know if i’ve ever seen as many facemasks on one player, in one game in my life
http://vimeo.com/1590229
by 700 Level on Sep 16, 2008 8:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One other thing no one is mentioning...
How scary good this Eagles team can be with the addition of Curtis and Reggie in the Lineup
http://vimeo.com/1590229
by 700 Level on Sep 16, 2008 9:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I just lost a bet to the Cowboys fan, Once again my Iggles have let me down in my time of need. I should be ashamed of myself for under-estimating the Cowboys. They are truely Americas team.
by yophillybro on Sep 16, 2008 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully. I still think DJ is our best (yet stupidest) WR with everyone healthy. I thought Avant was pretty good last night, but Curtis and Brown should be an upgrade over G-Lew, who made some good plays but just HAD to catch that one he bobbled out of bounds on the last drive, and Hank “The Invisible Man” Baskett (who in his defense, I thought did a nice job blocking)
"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron
by BrianS on Sep 16, 2008 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to hear anymore shit talking on McNabb
He faced pressure all night and played incredibly on the road against a very good defense.
And we have a star WR in DJack.
And like said up above, JJ should have blitzed more.
A win would have been great, but this is probably the best I’ve ever felt about a loss.
by phillynyc on Sep 16, 2008 9:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Still...
I had mixed feelings about this game and the way the media handled it, especially sportcenter. They were talking about how it was a good game, but since romo was excellent and owens/witten were excellent, that this was, essentially, the only possible outcome. And believe me, I will not deny it, Romo was excellent – Witten was temendous (as usual), and owens…was owens. Furthemore, even though we held Barber down most of the game, he brought thos 5-7 yard runs when it counted.
But…this was a close, close game and I truly believe that it could have gone either way. Some of the classic New England/Indy matchups came to mind for that matter. I thought that donovan looked brilliant in his passing game, but some of the dropped passes (GLew in the fourth Quarter on the last drive) really hurt us. The hand off was the killer. I think that shifted the whole momentum of the game completely and that momentum shift is what killed us. I don’t believe in saying that we “should” have won, if that were true then we “would” have, but we didn’t.
I will say this, after only 2 games, and thank God we haven’t suffered any major injuries in our starters in these games, I think that if we can retool where we place our personnel on Defense then we’ll truly be formidable. I think matching up Sheldon Brown on Owens for most of the first half was stupid…I take that back…not matching up owens with Lito all night long was stupid. I really felt that after the first quarter, we should have swapped out dawkins for Sheldon over the top and matched the wide receivers (owens/Lito and Asante/crayton). I would have worked dawkins into a rotation with the weak side line backer. Then again, I’m not johnson. Also when we started to abandon the blitz in the second half and only bring the front four, I knew we were in trouble. I will say Romo looked good, but he still made some bad decisions under pressure, and when we took the pressure away, he just sat back and found the open man. Period.
Great game, I would have liked an Eagles win, but it is what it is. Bring on the Steelers.
by thwalls on Sep 16, 2008 9:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we'll beat Pittsburgh
I’m not sure they can put up enough points to hang with us
http://vimeo.com/1590229
by 700 Level on Sep 16, 2008 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seems like they’re truly run dependant this year as well…. looks like Big Ben is turning into Tren Dilfer cerca Baltimore Ravens… “Ben just go hand the ball off a lot and when you MUST pass it, just don’t throw it to the other team.”
by foos05 on Sep 16, 2008 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats hilarious
cuz i had the exact same though about Dilfer during the Cleveland game sunday night
http://vimeo.com/1590229
by 700 Level on Sep 16, 2008 9:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I mean, there are rumors that Ben is not exactly the brightest bulb on the tree. I wonder if that’s true and Tomlin just doesn’t trust him having to make decisions above weather he should have Trix or Frut Loops for breakfast.
by foos05 on Sep 16, 2008 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For what it's worth, he's playing with a shoulder injuiry
I think that’s why they weren’t throwing it much, in addition to the wind.
by grapejoos on Sep 16, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
even in their first game though… same story
by foos05 on Sep 16, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we’ll probably have as many points this season as the New England Bradys did last year. Our offense is good. We really need curtis back though so we can bench lewis. I could care less about reggie brown. He never gets over 100 yards anyway.
by andyb on Sep 16, 2008 9:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
After Jackson’s emergence, I’d have you eyes squared on Reggie Brown. Curtis proved last year that he is a constant threat in a West Coast offense and Jackson is showing everyone that he is going to demand coverage. Once Curtis and Brown are back, I think you’ll see alot of teams having to give help to the DB on Jackson, and perhaps Curtis as well (depending how deep your secondary is), and it should open up the field alot for Brown and Smith as well.
by foos05 on Sep 16, 2008 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brown is an upgrade from avant but he’s not a playmaker. I cant think of one highlight play he’s ever made. With curtis and djax on the field, your right about the matchup problems.
by andyb on Sep 16, 2008 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m by no means suggesting that he’s a playmaker either. I’m just saying that with the defense having to look after two actual threats, he will probably get their lowest tier DB or a Linebacker and even he should be able to have success with that match up. That’s how Brow can be successful. He’s not overly fast, but he runs diciplined routes. He doesn’t have the ability to beat top level CBs, but matched up against someone with inferior coverage skills, he will have the opportunity to be highly effective. Honestly, until we get Curtis back, I would rather have Avant out there with Jackson than Brown.
by foos05 on Sep 16, 2008 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if everything aligns, this IS a super bowl team
http://vimeo.com/1590229
by 700 Level on Sep 16, 2008 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who do you think will beat dallas?
I cant see them going 16-0. Especially since we play them the last game of the season. But who do you think will be the team to shut them down?
by andyb on Sep 16, 2008 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Giants have the defense to do so if they can get pressure on Romo. The O will be the question there… Possibly the Steelers… maybe GB.
by foos05 on Sep 16, 2008 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that GB game next week should be great too.
by JasonB on Sep 16, 2008 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, that’s about it. NY has the best chance, in my early season opinion. That said, “Go Pack, Go!”
"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron
by BrianS on Sep 16, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s the Giants. That’s the other heavyweight in the NFC. That game should be a spectacle to watch as well.
by JasonB on Sep 16, 2008 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants, Us, Steelers…. alot of teams have a chance. remember its only week two and everybody knows their weapons, unlike us. plus owens implodes in the middle of the season
by NickPampani on Sep 16, 2008 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of the best games ever
McNabb is amazing.
Year in, year out, it is always the Philadelphia Eagles that give this cowboys fan a knot in the stomach.
I usually despise Eagles fans, but this morning I am feeling a kinship because of this game. Hold your heads up, people, you’ve got one helluva team.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Sep 16, 2008 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks man… can’t wait till the finale
by foos05 on Sep 16, 2008 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good news for us is...
the cowboys cant win in the playoffs lol. I still wouldnt want to take the chance though.
by andyb on Sep 16, 2008 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta start
getting my cowboy mojo working for that one.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Sep 16, 2008 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m going to be interested to see what that game turns into… We both have good defenses, but we showed everyone in the league how to shred them last night… Now, I’m not saying anyone else actually has the personnel to do so, but I’ll say it was a defensive learning experience for both teams.
by foos05 on Sep 16, 2008 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way
Was that one of the worst national anthems ever or what?
by JasonB on Sep 16, 2008 10:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was terrible! I hate when people sing the national anthem with attitude…
Was that girl even a citizen?
http://vimeo.com/1590229
by 700 Level on Sep 16, 2008 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tries not to laugh
eyes swelling with tears
by foos05 on Sep 16, 2008 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bonehead Play is Right...
Have you ever seen such a thing as not breaking the plane on what would have been a GREAT showing for a rookie’s second game off of a beautiful pass from the REAL McNabb? No. Ok, so we move on. hopefully #10 will take this as a learning experience, shake it off and take the ball busting that will no doubt come with it. However, that’s not the bonehead play I want to talk about…what exactly happened in that handoff? Westbrook didn’t look like he was expecting the ball and McNabb sure as hell wasn’t sure he what he wanted to do with it. Regardless, these are the types of plays that the Brids need to learn how to recover from. That one play was the absolute turning point for the game. It was after that that we saw the lost puppy look slowly return to McNabb’s face, where we could almost watch as his confidence was surely deflated as the game went on. The little things like a missed handoff are not the end of the world. As the leader of our beloved Birds, he has GOT to keep his confidence up. Look at how he played the first three quraters of the game for cryin’ out loud! AMAZING! The Donovan we know and love from years past. I don’t know how what he has to do, but he has to be able to move on after a play like that. A mistake. They happen. Get over it and play. Gotta stop the nonsense of being the last one in the huddle on the field, and keep the intensity up. Sometimes I wish I had a phone line to the sideline to give him a pep talk because there is no room or reason to act defeated when there is time left on the clock.
by Sunnyinphla on Sep 16, 2008 10:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I agree with you that McNabb botched that handoff to Westbrook and ultimately cost them the game. However I am very pleased with the offense and am excited to see what they can do this year.
Love Desean Jackson. The dude is a stud, other than his boneheaded move. I heard he did a cartwheel into the end zone in high school and coughed it up. I am sure Andy Reid will scare the celebration out of him.
by P_Dizzle on Sep 16, 2008 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh god… i would have felt better not knowing that factoid.
by foos05 on Sep 16, 2008 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell
i want to see him pul off that cartwheel this year
by NickPampani on Sep 16, 2008 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about the last game of the season?
by NickPampani on Sep 16, 2008 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
save that shit for the Pro bowl.
"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron
by BrianS on Sep 16, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on wouldnt it be nice if he was able to pull it off. im not saying thet the reword out ways the risk here but look at the situation. after the eintire season he is able to do that against dallas after the fumbled against dallas this past week.
by NickPampani on Sep 16, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you look at it...
Forgive my blasphemy for a second here.
For as bad as Considine blew that deep route, Dawkins looked just as bad, if not worse in coverage. He was mis-matched a few times against Jason Witten, but overall he looked like he was a step behind on most guys. He did make a great play breaking up that pass on the sideline, but I think he looked sluggish in the open field overall. Our secondary (minus Q Mikell and Asante on the INT) didn’t really step up like I thought they would.
Just my view. Also, when Curtis comes back, he and DeSean are going to give people absolute fits. Tooooo fast.
by Walcott on Sep 16, 2008 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ll have to disagree to some extent. I don’t think Sheppard or Brown did anything that hurt us. They didn’t have 3 picks each, but they didn’t get killed. I’m with you on everything else
by foos05 on Sep 16, 2008 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brown should never be 1:1 with Owens. It’s got to be Lito or Asante if they’re going to leave one of them out on an island.
Dawk looked very bad in coverage.
"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron
by BrianS on Sep 16, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I’d like to see us put Brown on Witten. Lito and Asante can lock down TO and Crayton.
Sorry to say it but Dawkins doesn’t look good out there. I thought he looked a step slow last year.
by Screen Name 20 on Sep 16, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
B Dawk
It seemed to be a sort of reality check last night for Brian Dawkins. He has been undoubtedly an asset to the Eagles over the past years, but he started getting beat last night on plays even last year he would have been all over. However, the Eagles optimist in me thinks that perhaps it could be beginning of the season jitters… I have faith that he’ll step it up for us as the season gets a little further underway.
by Sunnyinphla on Sep 16, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considine
A lot of you are down on him…he’s the “Roy Williams of Philadelphia.” But listen: it’s just not easy to find one safety that can cover, let alone two. You guys were spoiled a bit by Dawkins in his prime. Dawkins NOW is as good (or better) in coverage than Ken Hamlin, who is an all pro for Dallas.
No team in the NFL is happy with their safety coverage. It’s the gripe of every fan site, and it’s not really something that will be remedied.
by TimSchultz36 on Sep 16, 2008 11:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I admit we’re probably a bit spoiled and expect alot from our safeties… But Considine is a cover safety and he is horrid… I could see if his purpose was to stop the run, I’d cut him some slack… but he constantly is out of position… and it’s not even close
by foos05 on Sep 16, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Biting on Romo's pump fake is unforgivable.
That 72 yard TD should never have happened – thanks Sean.
by cavortingEagle on Sep 16, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no kidding.
how does a Safety get faked on an under cross pattern, that’s not even his read.
by Whodie126 on Sep 16, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not the Roy Williams of Philadelphia
At least ****ing Roy can tackle.
I’d like to see Reed or Demps get some chances to see if one of them can take his spot.
"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron
by BrianS on Sep 16, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah with horse collars
hated that guy for a while now. I think he’s a cheap dirty hit player and I’m glad he’s no good anymore.
by CMax on Sep 16, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point. I hate Williams, too.
But in regard to Considine let me revise my previous statement to read:
“At least ****ing Roy can drag people from behind by the back of the shoulder pads after they’ve burned him.”
"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron
by BrianS on Sep 16, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One last thought from a BTBer
Mikell is a good player. He was a heat-seeking missle out there.
by grapejoos on Sep 16, 2008 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have to tell you...
I never like seeing anyone get hurt but i think a guy like Williams might just deserve to get banged up a time or two like last night… how many horsecollars has that guy done. Obviously we remember the one that took TO out in 04, but i think the one he pulled on mcnabb in the open field last year pissed me off more.
He got suspended for that one right?
http://vimeo.com/1590229
by 700 Level on Sep 16, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way. I just read on the Steelers’ blog, the popular feeling is a 27-3 victory for the Steelers this week… They said they watched last nights game… somehow I don’t believe them
by foos05 on Sep 16, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Um, a single solitary commented that it would be 27-3, and they said it would be 27-3 because of Bettis.
I think that is the only comment thus far about the outcome of next weeks game, though because of Bettis and Jerry Rice we might pull it off.
I’d say in general you can find, if you actually choose to read the steelers blog, that we are worried about next weeks game and think the eagles are good team. Of course, you could also choose to just browse really quickly and completely misread something, nice job foos05. Let the trash talking begin over our stupid and imcompetent QB. :)
by steelguy99 on Sep 16, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Was there this much scrutiny in last year’s blog? I don’t rmember as such. Seems like we’ve got a ton more “trans-team” blogging.
Personally, I think Bettis is over rated these days. I don’t think he’s going to be as impactful as steelguy99 says he will be. I’m not even going to start him on my Fantasy team this week……
"Dig In....Hit Hard"
by TexasLax on Sep 16, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suggest you sit Neil O’Donnell too, if you have him.
"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron
by BrianS on Sep 16, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man I hope Terry Bradshaw has a good game this week, he got me 0 points last week.
by Whodie126 on Sep 16, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The cat is out of the bag now… I don’t think anyone will overlook the Eagles anymore.
Destroyer of Subject Lines :3™
by yomjoseki on Sep 16, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A couple of things about last night
1. It was a great game, and dissappointing that we lost.
2. Blown coverage was the name of the game, for both teams.
3. DeSean Jackson needs to get taken behind the woodshed, and beaten.
4. Props to the Cowboys for pulling out!
by Midnightgreen33 on Sep 16, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
27-3????? What?
They’re out of their freaking minds!
Whats the vegas line on it? I’d be shocked if we werent favored to win by 4 or 5
http://vimeo.com/1590229
by 700 Level on Sep 16, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not out of their minds. . .
They are joking. Referencing the 27-3 ass whopping the Steelers put on the Eagles in 2004. That’s all. Sarcasm. Settle down. . .
by The IC Lion on Sep 16, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I swear to god man…. go over… this morning they were posting things like, “They’ve got this guy they drafted named DeSean Jackson. He looks decent”… Like they weren’t watching the game last night… Oh yeah, that kid, they drafted him this year… Ummm DeSean something or another… He looks serviceable…
by foos05 on Sep 16, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
really busy day at work
trying to catch up here, but I will head over there tonight and see what they’re saying.
by Whodie126 on Sep 16, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure whose blog you are reading. Now lets look at some actual quotes from the steelers blog instead of the ones from FantasyLand that foos05 seems to be finding:
“Jackson is a scary dude.”
"In Dallas’ case I think they underestimated where McNabb is (in his recovery) and Jackson surprised them. "
“But then there was this rookie by the name of DeSean Jackson who really gave the Dallas defense fits.”
“Most importantly, if it takes Troy to slow him (westbrook) down, then we become more susceptible to the deep ball and Jackson.”
Yeah man, we sure are saying he sucks over in LaLa steelers world.
by steelguy99 on Sep 16, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woah Foos...
I think you just got laid out!
lol
http://vimeo.com/1590229
by 700 Level on Sep 16, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With all due respect to the Cowboys fans who are generally being gracious (and I think their team was better than ours by more than the final score indicated), I’m not allowing any smoke to blown up my ass here.
I’m really disappointed in the Eagles inability to put them away when they had a chance. Not fumbling probably would have done the trick — but the defense came up really, really small here.
I think the offense will be very good, but the defense has got to improve if the Eagles want to get wins against NY or Dallas.
"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron
by BrianS on Sep 16, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont get it
everyone talks about how the D blew it.
look neither D was able to put themselves together considering that this is the first real offense that any of them faced, but look at the end of the game after the fumble. our D came out onto the field and shut Dallas down in 33 seconds. thats good i think to pull out a 3 and out in a clutch situation when your behind and the game is on the line. give our boys some credit
by NickPampani on Sep 16, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many big third downs did Dallas pick up, though? I give our D credit for that series, yes (although like 700 says, they knew the first 2 plays would be runs, and they did sort of get pressure with the blitz to force Romo into a bad throw — although Witten was WIDE OPEN) , but if they’d stopped Dallas after the fumble, the Eagles probably win. Both defenses had several chances to set the tone for the game and neither one did. They stopped us more than we stopped them.
No disrespect to the Cowboys, but you can’t give up 36 points and say it was good defensive performance.
The front four got very little pressure on Romo, JJ didn’t blitz, and our secondary couldn’t contain TO or Witten.
At least they shut down Barber, though.
"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron
by BrianS on Sep 16, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas converted 6 of 10 on 3rd down, but 3 of 6 on 3rd and long (9 yards or more). One of the times Romo failed to covert was when he missed Barber in the flat and that was also one of the only times in the 2nd half I remember a complete “jailbreak” blitzz call by JJ…
by EJ FeelMe on Sep 16, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think both D's are really good
but something had to give when you have two good offenses. I’m not sweating the high score and neither should the Eagles fans. No matter how good a defense is they will have games like this. I believe NE had a few games last season where they gave up big points also and they went 17-0….lol
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Sep 16, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But its pretty easy when you know the first two plays
are going to be runs. Romo made a really poor throw to a WIDEOPEN Barber, otherwise we’d have never got the ball back
http://vimeo.com/1590229
by 700 Level on Sep 16, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I HAVE A GREAT IDEA
Lets end this thread and start talking about the Steelers!
We’ll get Dallas again. We only get these guys once
http://vimeo.com/1590229
by 700 Level on Sep 16, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Plenty to talk about without making up fodder that doesn’t exist on BSTC.
by steelguy99 on Sep 16, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last Comment about Dallas
They need to watch the GB game this week. Wade (Tool) Phillips is not someone who can motivate his players very well. After this mind-numbing game, there is a reeeal chance for a let down. Eagles too, however, I feel Andy is far better at motivating the troops after a loss. What’s Andy’s stat after a loss, something like 13-5?? Someone correct me here.
"Dig In....Hit Hard"
by TexasLax on Sep 16, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so.
I live in York, and I’m vastly outnumbered by Steelers fans here. This would be a real nice bounce-back win for me. (not to mention the team).
"He’s in trouble. Whatever he throws me, I’m going to hit it."
-- Alex Cintron
by BrianS on Sep 16, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We get it man...
Lets get over it and talk football
http://vimeo.com/1590229
by 700 Level on Sep 16, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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