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Eagles vs. Cowboys (A Rivalry Renewed): Pt. 2

Today, I am going to look at the quarterbacks for the Eagles, and Cowboys. The majority of this analysis will look at Donovan McNabb, and Tony Romo. I'm going to briefly include Kevin Kolb, A.J. Feeley, Brooks Bollinger, and Brad Johnson in this post, because they could see time, if someone were to get injured, and thus could have a potential impact on the outcome of Monday night's showdown in Dallas. I will incorporate statistics in this discussion, but I will use them sparingly. They are more to display each quarterbacks body of work, than to argue who’s got the advantage.

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Donovan McNabb, Tony Romo, both men are the respective faces of their franchise. They are also considered to be among the elite active quarterbacks in the NFL. Tony Romo and Donovan McNabb share a lot of similarities on the playing field. However, their biggest difference is where they are in their careers. Tony Romo, in his 6th season, is the young, up and coming quarterback. Romo is looking to keep the Dallas Cowboys at the top of the NFC East. Donovan McNabb, in his 10th season, is an established member of the quarterback aristocracy. McNabb will be fighting to bring the Eagles back to their dominant ways of the early 2,000's. Both quarterbacks are looking to lead their team to a Super Bowl championship. To do that, they are going to have to face one another at least two times a year. Yesterday, Dallas won the coin toss, and went first. So it's the Eagles' ball today.

 

Donovan McNabb has become a prolific passer in the NFL. He has the ability to make any throw that is asked of him. Which wasn’t always the case, early on in his career, he was notorious for short hopping passes, and not consistently putting the ball on the money. He used to his athleticism, as a counter measure. If he saw daylight, he was gone. That’s not his game anymore. Today, Donovan’s game has evolved. He’s more of a pocket passer that, if the play breaks down, can make one with his legs. As Donovan learned the art of being a better pocket passer, he became a better quarterback. He led the Eagles to the playoffs 5 years running, 4 consecutive Divisional championships, and one Super Bowl. Since 2005, McNabb has suffered a number of season ending injuries, but in those years he was putting up MVP like statistics. McNabb is once again healthy, confident, and assume his role as team leader. Here are the numbers on Donovan McNabb (career):

1.        58.7 completion percentage

2.        25,765 yards passing

3.        174 TDs

4.        79 Ints

5.        2,965 yards rushing

6.        24 rushing TDs

When Donovan McNabb is healthy, he’s one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. His strength and size give him the ability to elude tacklers, see the field, and put the ball anywhere he needs to. He’s become a more patient passer, makes better reads as well, and he spreads the ball around effectively. Donovan McNabb has tackled every adversity that he’s faced in the NFL, and that has made him a better player.

 

Dallas fans should thank Bill Parcells for two things: 1) Signing Tony Romo as an undrafted free agent and 2) Keeping him on the bench for three years.  Tony Romo came out of relative obscurity, and onto the stage that is being the Cowboys starting quarterback. In 2006 he replaced Drew Bledsoe as the starting quarterback in Dallas, and led the Cowboys to the playoffs. In 2007, Romo and the Cowboys went 13-3, back to the playoffs, and he got rewarded with a big contract. He’s got a strong arm, and can make all the throws. He has good patience in the pocket, and makes good reads as well. Romo will stand in there, and take a hit, in order to deliver a throw, but if nothing is there, he will scramble. When Romo has time to make all of his reads he can pick a team apart. Here are the numbers on Romo:

1.        65.1 completion percentage

2.        7,434 yards passing

3.        56 TDs

4.        33 Ints

5.        228 yards rushing

6.        2 rushing TDs

Tony Romo was an unpolished gem, and by giving him time to learn, and develop he has ascended. He has the ability, and intelligence to be a great quarterback in the NFL. Tony Romo has been compared on numerous occasions to Brett Favre, which is high praise (depending how you look at it). Both Tony Romo and Brett Favre shoot from the hip at times. They may force an issue, and that can lead to turnovers. I don’t think that Tony Romo has peaked just yet, he’s close though. As he gets more and more game experience he should continue to improve.

 

Backing up Tony Romo is 17 year veteran Brad Johnson. Johnson is a journeyman of the NFL. He’s also a Super Bowl champion. Here are his career numbers:

1.        61.8 completion percentage

2.        28,627 yards passing

3.        164 TDs

4.        117 Ints

5.        658 yards rushing

6.        8 rushing TDs

Brad Johnson has got a lot of experience. His best attribute as a quarterback is his ability to manage a game. He might not going win you the game, but he’s not going to necessarily lose you the game either. Quarterbacks with his years of experience are useful. If Romo were to get hurt, Johnson could come in, and win a few games, but he’s not a sustainable solution.

 

The Eagles have placed the backup duties on the shoulders of 2nd year quarterback Kevin Kolb. Kolb has played only an insignificant amount of time, but for conformities sake, here are his numbers:

1.        83.3 completion percentage

2.        53 yards passing

3.        0 TDs

4.        0 Ints

5.        -5 yards rushing

6.        0 rushing TDs

Kevin was a 2nd round draft choice last year, and would appear to be Donovan’s eventual replacement. He needs to continue to improve, before he’ll be ready to take over. He looked good in the preseason, but has yet to play a full 4 quarters of NFL football. Kevin has got a strong arm, which he showcased during the ’08 preseason. He’s got a steep learning curve in front of him, but fortunately for him, he’s got the fans support, for now.

 

Coming in at third on the Cowboys’ depth chart is Brooks Bollinger. Brooks is entering his 6th season in the NFL. Here’s what he brings to the table:

1.        58.6 completion percentage

2.        2,156 yards passing

3.        8 TDs

4.        8 Ints

5.        155 yards rushing

6.        0 rushing TDs

I know little about Brooks Bollinger beyond the fact that he exists. He has some playing experience, most of which came while playing for the Jets. I imagine that Brooks was brought in to add depth at the position, but I think Jerry Jones might strap on a helmet, before Bollinger gets under center.

 

Our 3rd string quarterback is A.J. Feeley. Feeley is in his 8th season, and has played for the Eagles, Dolphins, and Chargers. Here are Feeley’s career numbers:

1.        55.9 completion percentage

2.        4,070 yards passing

3.        27 TDs

4.        29 Ints

5.        45 yards rushing

6.        1 rushing TD

Feeley has shown flashes of Brilliance, and is a good leader. A.J. stepped up in 2002, and won like 6 games after McNabb and Detmer went down to injury. During the 2007 season, Feeley looked liked he was going to do the unthinkable, and knock off the undefeated Patriots. He committed a fatal error during the final drive. He threw the ball right into coverage, and the Patriots intercepted the ball. Feeley has the ability to steal games. He’s also got a penchant for committing costly errors in clutch situations.

 

In summation, if Brad Johnson and Kevin Kolb were to play the game, Johnson would have the advantage. This is always a high pressure game. Kolb hasn’t been field tested, and Johnson has plenty of experience. If A.J. Feeley and Brooks Bollinger were the starters, I give Feeley the advantage. Feeley has more of a history with the Cowboys, than Bollinger does with the Eagles. A.J. is Wiley, and can pull a win out of nowhere. Finally, we have the matchup that is going to almost certainly take place, McNabb vs. Romo. Donovan McNabb wins this matchup. He’s got a huge advantage in experience over Tony. Monday night’s game is going to have a playoff atmosphere, and I think that will affect Romo more than McNabb. So, the advantage goes to the Eagles.

 

What are your thoughts?

 Statistics were provided by NFL.com

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Interceptions

The biggest difference between McNabb and Romo is interceptions. Romo throws them, and McNabb does not.

Romo has been interception free in about 25% of his games played. He averages over 1 interception per game, and 1 interception for every 25 to 30 pass attempts.

McNabb has been interception free in almost 45% of his games played. He averages 3 interceptions every 4 games for his career and 3 interceptions every 5 games in the past 4 seasons. He holds, of course, the NFL record for interception percentage, with a career number of 1 interception for every 40 to 50 pass attempts.

This is the biggest reason the Eagles have won 3 of the last 4 meetings. Romo has thrown 6 interceptions to the Eagles in 3 of those games and Bledsoe threw another 3 picks, for 9 total. McNabb and Garcia threw 3 in those same 4 games.

You can’t win when you consistently play catch with the other team’s DB’s.

by Andrew B on Sep 10, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting stat… Midway through the Rams game, McNabb became the career leader for the lowest % of passes intercepted in the history of the NFL…

by foos05 on Sep 10, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Really?

That makes sense, I read on his bio yesterday that he (McNabb) is in the top 5 passers who have thrown 30 or more TDs in one season, and threw less then 10 INTs. He threw only 8 that year. Good deal man.

by Midnightgreen33 on Sep 11, 2008 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe

He was actually the first QB to throw for more than 30 TD’s (32) and fewer than 10 picks (8)…

by cavortingEagle on Sep 11, 2008 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, turnover are going to be huge.

Andrew – I certainly wasn’t a math major in college, and thus wasn’t going to attempt to crunch the numbers, so to speak. I didn’t know where I could find them either. I was also tentative to use stats because they are going to inflated. Tony Romo has played just one full season, and thought that comparing his short term numbers to that of McNabb’s fairly extensive numbers would be misleading. Thanks for the stats, and Yeah man, turnovers are going to be a big deal in this game. Good stuff, keep reading, and Go Birds!

by Midnightgreen33 on Sep 11, 2008 8:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Interception

If may make a statement here:

Tony Romo has thrown 33 INTs, and played in 27 games since 2006. Which breaks down to 1.2 INT a game, that was out of 889 passing attempts. Donovan, in that same time period, threw 13 INTs, and played in 25 games. His was less than 1 INT a game. That was out of 822 passes thrown.

by Midnightgreen33 on Sep 11, 2008 1:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lets leave poor Terry alone...

..and let him watch monday night as we plant Tony’s goofy looking head in the turf.

by BirdBrane on Sep 11, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Multiple Championships???

That’s an outrageous prediction.

by Midnightgreen33 on Sep 11, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

at least he’s living up to those expectations…

by foos05 on Sep 11, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Call the CPSC

Yes, call the Consumer Products Safety Commission!

Tony Romo is a known choking hazard to his teammates.

by Andrew B on Sep 11, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bahahahahaha

by foos05 on Sep 11, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

realliy?

I’m a general sports enthusiast … as far as the NFL goes, I don’t really have a favorite team, I just absolutely love football. As such, I read lots of blogs and articles all over the place about all teams / players.

I have to say, the support for Donovan McNabb on this thread as a superior QB is impressively insane. It’s so defensive it comes off as a massive inferiority complex. I went over to a few of the cowboys communities and there are posts laughing at this thread.

There are so many ways to statistically measure these two QB’s … focusing on INT’s is very narrow. Romo throws TD’s on 7% of his passes while McNabb throws TD’s on 4.5% of his passes. Romo completes 65% of his passes, McNabb, barely 60%. McNabb has proven to have a QB rating of about 85 … Romo’s first two years are at 95.

Point is, Eagles fans, you’re making McNabb seem foolish when you don’t need to. He’s a good QB, everyone knows what he is, he’ll win you some games, he’ll loose you some others, he’s not a particularly charismatic leader and he’s no longer particularly healthy as he’s only played in 34 of his team’s last 52 games.

I wouldn’t advertise McNabb over Romo, it’s not at all an easy argument to make and in fact, if you get into it and back out the Buffalo Bills game last year when Romo through 6 INT’s, you’ve got a big problem on your hands as their ratios become remarkably more similar.

Also, Brady, Manning and Brees are better than both of them.

by berkokid on Sep 11, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McNabb and Romo Stats

McNabb has also run for 3326 yards and 27 touchdowns, and even the yards number is underestimated because it includes the negative yards of kneeldowns.

Romo has run for 251 yards and 2 touchdowns.

So Romo really has 60 touchdowns in 32 games, with 958 attempts and 64 rushes, which is a 5.9% TD percentage. Romo has 1.88 TD’s per game. BTW, 58 TD’s in 958 attempts is 6, not 7.

McNabb really has 218 touchdowns in 129 games, with 4184 attempts and 559 rushes, which is a 4.6% TD percentage. McNabb also has 1.71 TD’s per game.

Why the difference? McNabb throws more per game than Romo because they play in different offensive systems. Romo averages 29.9 attempts per game. McNabb 32.43 attempts per game.

Even all of that understates what McNabb does, because McNabb learned on the field as a rookie and Romo learned on the bench, and some of McNabb’s games were things like his 3 attempt Rams game in 2004 before he went to rest on his laurels, something Romo has never been asked to do.

If we take out the 6 games and 72 attempts and 19 rushes before he became a starter in 1999, McNabb’s numbers go up.

Completion percentage. McNabb has completed 1071 of 1758 attempts since 2004 – 61. Romo 615 of 954 – 64. This is a difference of one pass per game completed. So Romo makes one additional pass per game, but also throws an additional interception. Woohoo!

by Andrew B on Sep 12, 2008 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

re: really

apologize, typo … 5 INT’s in the Bills game …

by berkokid on Sep 11, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Question for Terry

Terry, you wouldn’t by any chance be in the Oil and Gas industry, and work on Precision 823 rig, would you?

Just curious……

"Dig In....Hit Hard"

by TexasLax on Sep 11, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I work in O&G

in a research lab…
Is that ok?
;-)

by cavortingEagle on Sep 11, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Romo Sucks!!

You guys are totally right. Romo is the most overhyped worst QB ever. He is lucky on every throw he completes. He has NO talent. My Cowboys are doomed for years to come because of this loser. I would rather have Quincy Carter back at least the people knew he was limited and didnt make the mistake of investing in him.

Romo is a product of the team with absolutely ZERO talent. I can only pray that the Eagles literally kill Romo this game. I would not care if he was taken off in a stretcher. I am sure Eagle fans would cheer as he would be motionless never to walk again (as you have in the past). I would be at your side giving him the finger. Go EAGLE’S D-LINE!!! Paralyze the fake!!

by DallasFanThinksRomoSucks on Sep 11, 2008 11:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You are an idiot

This is not a Cowboys fan. Sounds like an Eagles fan. I never understood the act of cheering someone else’s off the field demise. Do I cheer when an opponent drops a pass or fumbles? Heck yeah, but did I cheer when Brady went down? Would I feel joy if the Eagles plane went down in flames? NO! But somehow I see Eagles fans dancing in the streets if the Cowboys team plane did. Why do people fail to realize these guys are real people? They are other humans’ husbands, sons, brothers etc.. Lay off the call for paralisys. That is just stupid.

So...why is John Hart still being paid?

by Texasportsfan on Sep 12, 2008 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dumb and Dumber

You guys really are stupid, aren’t you?

You can’t detect sarcasm from your own fellow Cowpoke fans?

by Andrew B on Sep 12, 2008 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow i can just feel the love here-ha ha

2008/2009 the body bag season

by EAGLE_MAN71 on Sep 12, 2008 1:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Such shitty trolling and such shitty handling of trolling, tsk tsk. I’m disappointed by you guys.

You can’t be serious in taking a QB after his first full season starting over a proven vet who has lead his team deep into the playoffs multiple times.

Another thing to consider is this: McNabb has been throwing to one of the most godawful supporting casts of receivers for half his career. Now, I think our WRs are a lot better than they used to be, but come on. This guy used to have to throw to Todd Pinkston, James Thrash, and Freddie Mitchell. I’d even take Patrick Crayton over them, and I know how bad he is. I’d kill for a BAMF like Jason Witten to throw to. And no matter how big of a dickhead TO is, he’s still a great WR. That has to skew the stats a bit.

Destroyer of Subject Lines :3™

by yomjoseki on Sep 12, 2008 2:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not really sure if this is relevant...

I just wanted to point out that a decent comparison might be to put McNabb’s 2004 season (his best) against Romo’s 2007 season (his best). Both of them had T.O., who obviously hasn’t lost a step in those couple of years between, so that washes out the “Romo had better receivers argument”…

Here are the stat lines for McNabb:
15 Games
300 Completions in 469 Attempts (64.0%)
3875 Yards
8.3 Avg
31 TDs
8 Ints
104.7 Rating
13-3 Regular Season
Lost in Super Bowl

Here are the stat lines for Romo:
16 Games
335 Completions in 520 Attempts (64.4%)
4211 Yards
8.1 Avg
36 TDs
19 Int
97.4 Rating
13-3 Regular Season
Lost in 1st Playoff Game (Div)

These numbers are virtually identical, except for the interception numbers, so what else should we judge by? In the post-season, McNabb had no T.O. and still won 2 games. Romo had him and still lost. Sure, this is a team game, but you have to agree, quarterback play is pivotal in the playoffs.

I’d like to see what happens to Romo when he doesn’t have T.O…

by iggles on Sep 12, 2008 8:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’d like to see what happens to Romo when he doesn’t have T.O…

… fade to black …

by Whodie126 on Sep 12, 2008 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Romo

is overrated. Bottom line. id take Eli over Romo any day of the week. I am a die hard Birds fan so maybe I am biased but Eli is a better quarterback than Tony Romo. Romo has yet to win a playoff game and is not a leader.

McNabb is a leader on the field; Eli proved last year he is a leader. Romo as yet to show he can win a game when it matters. Last year, New England owned Dallas in Texas stadium. If you remember, he played poorly versus the Giants at HOME in a Divisional round playoff game. Something tells me we will see Dallas’ season end similarly to the last two years with either Romo on his knees distraught or TO crying knowing his career is done without a Super Bowl.

by fcphillyboy4 on Sep 12, 2008 9:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone Remember...

When McNugget threw that pick to Roy that cost the Eagles that game and McNugget the season? Now that was hilarious…

~Texas Massacre 08~

by TheHeat on Sep 12, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chapter 1: 2008

This chapter goes to Romo.

He won the game for the cowboys. While McNabb had some highlight-reel escapes, his 4th quarter play was pretty poor, particularly on the last drive when he took two sacks as opposed to throwing the ball away. Then there were the two fumbles, only one of which he lost …

Romo’s interception was typical Romo, did good work to escape the blitz and then was too amped up to contain his throw … this is the most important thing for him to work on, lots of his interceptions come in these situations.

As someone suggested above, when McNabb has to throw a TD he does, when Romo has to, he chokes. On this night, when McNabb played one of the best games of his career (according to local philly media and fan base), he couldn’t get it done, against a defense playing w/o 3 of top 6 secondary players and 1 of 4 starting LB’s.

At the end of this day, the day many suggest was vintage mcnabb, romo was better his 3 TD’s to 1 INT were a better package than McNabb’s 1 TD to 0 INT’s.

My other thinking coming out of this game … Westbrook may be the best all around offensive player in football …

by berkokid on Sep 18, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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