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The roster is set - Bob Ford has a say.

The 53 Man Roster v.1.0 is now official and several journalists have had their say. The most objectionable to my mind is one penned by Bob Ford in today's Inquirer. He takes issue with several of the Eagles roster moves and suggests that this roster is unfinished. I think he's trying too hard to come up with negative things to say about the moves.  After the break, I break down his article.

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First Ford objects to the decision to trust Tony Hunt with the Fullback position. He suggests the move of Tony Hunt to fullback is an indefensible mistake:

If the Eagles go into the season without a real fullback, it could be as disastrous as Reid's decision to enter last year without a punt returner.

Really? I must say that I respectfully disagree on this one. How often do the Eagles actually use 2-back sets in live games? Of the three preseason candidates for the position, Tony is unarguably the best athlete and will provide match up problems for opposing defenses in short yardage situations. What will the Eagles do? Both the run and the pass are distinct possibilities in a set utilizing Tony Hunt and whatever tailback we choose to go with. Granted, Tony will be learning on the job, but what team in the NFL would be better than the Birds for that opportunity?

As we continue through Ford's article, we find that he feels our Offensive Line is too thin for his comfort level.

Even if the knee injury sustained Thursday by Max Jean-Gilles isn't serious, there is simply too little insurance against injuries to the starting unit, and too little experience. Heckert glossed over the lack of depth... Nevertheless, the backups behind tackles Tra Thomas and Jon Runyan are guard Todd Herremans and Winston Justice. That doesn't necessarily inspire confidence.

I suppose that it would have been easy to keep 10 linemen if we had gone with 5 wide receivers, and we may yet see this happen, however Winston is a decent Right Tackle and Todd looked good on the left side when Tra was down. According to Heckert, Jean-Gilles is ready to practice this week so our number one sub is ready to go should the need arise. Scott Young had a strong preseason, but Mike McGlynn can play all over the offensive line. In truth, how many people are sad to see Scott go? I'm not really one to hold grudges, but he is the proud owner of the most memorable false start in Eagles history. Couple that with his holdout and well, you're on your own buddy...

Ford calls the release of McDougle a surprise. I call it a disappointment. I really wanted him to make the team. If we can place King Dunlap on IR for a high ankle strain, what about Clemmons? I realize that he has himself a 4 million dollar roster bonus, but has he even taken practice? The Eagles must really like what they've got in him. Ford states:

The defensive line...still searches for a sack threat to place opposite Trent Cole in passing situations.

According to the Eagles brass, that threat would be Clemmons. Note to the training staff, get (and keep) Chris healthy.

Ford concludes his piece with this statement:

There are moves that still can be made. And, here's that first impression again: They better make them.

I agree with part 1, however part 2 seems a touch overstated. This Eagles roster looks good to me. I'm disappointed that they couldn't find room for Jerome McDougle and am surprised that Greg Lewis made the team over Michael Gasperson, but I feel that both players will catch on with another team. If you're worried about McDougle playing the Eagles dressed in blue, there are a whole bunch of other teams picking off the waiver wire with priority over the Giants so I'm pretty sure we won't have to see him twice a year. The first roster is never the last, we'll just have to wait and see what the Eagles do next.

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Oh, Bob, Where did we go wrong in raising you?

by Remis on Aug 31, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Our boy GCobb...

says McDougal is already talking with the Giants.
I have a feeling if he does anything this year it will be against us.
http://www.gcobb.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1925&Itemid=1

I really hope Clemmons doesn’t turn out to be a bust but I’ve got a bad feeling about that too.

Overall I’m pretty happy with the roster and optimistic about our chances (for now)

The road to victory!

by jayt on Aug 31, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If he does end up a Giant

More power to him, whatever the case I wish him well.

by cavortingEagle on Aug 31, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

steagles' thoughts on the roster:

i agree on the offensive line, if MJG and RG jamal were seriously or even moderately injured, and in danger of missing any game action, the line would be very weak, but i don’t think that’s the case, so it’s fine. young is no big loss.

the defensive line is solid. i think mcdougle is a good player when healthy, but he’s probably never going to be that stud pass rusher, and losing him will probably not affect the level ofp lay for the defense on the field, but depending on the team that picks him up, it could come back to haunt the front office.

i hate greg lewis and matt schoebel. i hate the fact that if they play the first game of the season, their contracts are guaranteed. for fucks sake, cut ’em already.

as i posited before in the rumors thread, i think there was no chance that hunt would be cut. i think they came to him with a choice, either he plays FB and gets PT, or he plays TB, and is deactivated each week.

by variablesdont on Aug 31, 2008 3:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As far as McDougle goes, he’s 30. Even if he does play a couple of years for another team, his career is into it’s twilight. I can’t call him a bust, he never had a chance to play…

Greg Lewis. I don’t know. When he plays he catches TD’s. I actually kind of like the guy. He’s getting real close to the end of his run here though. I think when Curtis returns GLew gets cut and we sign somebody else’s practice squadder…

I too have been on the Hunt as fullback option for quite sometime, but I wish the Birds had gotten on board with the move back during OTA’s – that would have led to less on the job training…

by cavortingEagle on Aug 31, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was not surprised in the least bit that Greg Lewis made the roster. Reid has more man-love for that guy than Reno Mahe, and he had an enormous man-crush on Mahe. I actually think Lewis is good in his role as a 4th WR. But, I was curious to see what Gasperson would have done if he made the roster. At 6-4, he would have been an interesting addition. Gasperson and Lewis are probably pretty close in ability and I think all NFL coaches would go with the player they know instead of a player who hasn’t played in the NFL.

I agree with cavortingEagle regarding the fullback position. The Eagles really haven’t had a quality fullback since Jon Ritchie. Josh Parry and Thomas Tapeh were barely legitimate fullbacks, and Tony Hunt probably has more to offer than either of those two. I’ll also agree with you that Scott Young is no big loss at all. Though, I will disagree with you that Winston Justice is a decent tackle. We have yet to see any evidence of that.

Lastly, I too have a sinking feeling that Chris Clemons will be a big bust. I have a bad feeling he will go the way of Montae Reagor and that other douche bag they signed to play on the D-line whose name I can’t even remember.

by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Aug 31, 2008 6:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I misspell Chris Clemons’ name all the time. Frak.

Regarding Justice – I think he is out of position at LT. Over there, he’s matched up against the other team’s best pass rusher and probably doesn’t have the quicks to keep the QB clean. On the right side, he can use the experience he gained at USC where he was a starter at RT from the second game of his freshman season until he graduated as a senior. Winston may have failed as the future Tra Thomas, but he’s looking good to take over Runyan’s role relatively soon.

by cavortingEagle on Aug 31, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s a great player, but getting close to the end of the line. I believe he’s into a contract year. He’ll be able to play for many more years, if that’s what he wants to do – but since the Birds are notorious for ridding themselves of their older players and moving on with younger ones – I expect it’ll be someplace else.

by cavortingEagle on Aug 31, 2008 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s almost laughable to proclaim the lack of an experienced fullback a possible disaster.

As far as dept on the O-line, when was Todd Herremans done anything but look very capable when he’s played at LT? He played there this preseason and did a very good job, and he played there in 06 against the Falcons and did a fine job. I can think of no other option at backup LT than Herremans. I stress backup because I wonder who on earth does Bob Ford think the Eagles are going to find to come backup their left tackle?

by JasonB on Sep 1, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OH LAWDY! WE DON’T HAVE AN EXPERIENCED FULLBACK!

I’m completely confident Tony Hunt can handle the complicated FB playbook which mainly consists of “run through that pile of burly men and try and get two yards” and “run over there and catch Donovan’s pass if no one else is open and he throws to you as a last resort”.

Our line will be fine. If we get two injuries to the line, however, we’d be screwed, but what team wouldn’t be?

I have a feeling our entire defensive line rotation is going to be stupendous this year. Everyone’s going to be fresh the whole game and motoring. They’ll wear down the opposing trenchmen and dominate.

Any thoughts will be read and quickly disregarded.

Destroyer of Subject Lines :3™

by yomjoseki on Sep 1, 2008 12:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FB is on the field more than you think

I don’t have a specific stat, but the handful of games that I DVRed and then watched again to see who was playing well Tapeh missed 6 or 7 blocks a game. But BWest and the line are obviously good enough to make yards without the FB. And on a lot of plays, Tapeh just got in the way of Bwest. I’m of the opinion that Tapeh was not even an average FB in the NFL. Plus, Hunt, as a former halfback, knows how to read holes and the line, so he could be much better.

And GLew is a solid 4th or 5th WR in the NFL – nothing to dump on (IMO).

by phillynyc on Sep 1, 2008 12:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t believe the Eagles have ever kept more than 10 OL, so why is 10 adequate depth but nine is a catastrophe waiting to happen? Even with 10, at least three are going to be inactive every week.

by Tracer Bullet on Sep 1, 2008 1:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The game day inactive list is a good point to make.
Who are they against the Rams?
Mike McGlynn,
AJ Feeley,
Bryan Smith or Chris Clemons (depending on Clemons’ injury),
Kevin Curtis (injured),
Victor Abiamiri (injured),
Considine (JR Reed is also b/u kickoff returner),
Tank Daniels or Joe Mays (boils down to special teams prodcution here),
Schoebel or GLew?

by cavortingEagle on Sep 1, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Inactive 8

Not enough O-line guys on the inactive list

Feeley, McGlynn, Justice, Schobel
Curtis, Abiamiri – injuries
Smith or Clemmons
Considine or Reed (Buckhalter and Booker are back-up kick returners)

The back-up wideouts and linebackers are your core of the special teams, along with Nick Cole, Tony Hunt, Joselio Hanson, Clemmons, Celek, Considine or Reed, Dorenbos and the Kickers on offense, or Jackson/Demps and Buckhalter or Booker on returns

by Andrew B on Sep 1, 2008 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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