Offseason editorial - It's time to get over TO
About 5 years ago I moved to a part of New Jersey that lies just outside of the coverage area for 610 WIP, Philly's sports radio station. While I've certainly leveled some criticism at the station and some of its personalities at times, that doesn't mean I'm not a big fan. Growing up in the Philly metro area WIP was by far my most listened to station until the day I moved. If I still lived in the area, smart money says my radio would be usually tuned to 610.
Why? Well first and foremost I'm a sports fan with a nearly insatiable appetite for more talk, more news, more coverage, more rumors, more... everything to do with sports. Specifically my hometown sports. Plus, it's a great way to take the pulse of the fanbase. It may be the most vocal and reactionary part of the fanbase, but it's still interesting to hear. So whenever I'm back in the area I always make it a point to tune in.
It just so happened that I was in the city 2 weekends ago to catch the Frida Kahlo exhibit at the art museum . A crazy Eagles fan and a lover of fine art you say? Oh yes, it's possible... I stayed over in the city and of course took the opportunity to drink in some weekend sports talk on WIP. What was the subject I heard discussed for at least the hour I listened in?
Terrell Owens
Yes, TO left the city going on three years ago and yet somehow he still remains at the center of all too many Eagles' fans discussions. They don't talk about how the Eagles can gameplan against Owens the Cowboy... no, it's all still about Owens the Eagle. Not just the callers, but the hosts Hugh Douglas and Rob Charry explored everything from whether Donovan McNabb's personality was/is "too sensitive" to deal with TO, whether McNabb wasn't "a good enough leader" to sit TO and set him straight, to whether Hugh Douglas himself ever did anything to pacify TO, whether the team would have been better off getting rid of McNabb and not TO(as if that were the choice), and of course "why didn't the Eagles just give him more money?"
Three YEARS later this discussion dominated the airwaves of Philadelphia's sports station. Bear in mind that I only listened for an hour, the discussion was already going on and showed no signs of stopping when I flipped it off... Maybe regular WIP listeners can tell me, did I simply stumble upon on a freak occurrence or is this more or less the norm? Judging by what I've read on some message boards and conversations I've had... I suspect it's more regular than I'd hope. But why? Why are fans still obsessed with this one player who spent one and a half seasons here and absolutely dissed them? Never was there a player who came into with such fanfare and got such immediate love and acceptance from this fanbase... and squandered so quickly and willingly. The fanbase is quite literally a jilted lover that still hasn't gotten over the one who didn't love them back. Either that or in a town obsessed with the WR position, TO was the one fix of "the good stuff" that Eagles fans haven't gotten since... and they're jonesing for another fix real bad.
Whatever the reason, it's time to let it go. You wanna know what word I'd use to describe how I felt listening to this discussion? Kind of embarrassed. We're Eagles fans. We're supposed to be the biggest, baddest, toughest guys on the block! Has the elimination of the 700 level really caused us to get so soft that we're still obsessed with a player 3 years after his departure? There's no doubt in my mind that some of the same people who booed the guy in his return and chanted "OD" were the same people calling up that weekend wishing they could have him back. We can't have it both ways. I don't remember this kind of obsession over Reggie White after he left, and he's a flat out better player than Owens ever was. Reggie left on very bad terms with the organization and took shots at the ownership when he left. He had far too much class to blame teammates, but it wasn't an amicable divorce. White went on to win that superbowl we all covet so much, while Owens has been unable to even win a playoff game in Dallas :)
We all remember how great 2004 was. We all know how close we were to winning it all... but it's 2008 now. Only a handful of players from that superbowl team of 2004 are still here. It's over. It's history. Time to move on. I say this a guy with not one but two #81 jerseys hanging useless in his closet. We all loved the guy in that one great, but all too brief season... But now, it's time to move on.
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moving on, although i moved on before last season but i agree with the sentiment
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by phishead_psu on May 19, 2008 11:29 AM EDT 0 recs
I agree that people should get over TO. Somehow though I still get a certain satisfaction in watching him fail. Adding to that, I still wish that things had worked out differently between TO and the Eagles because he did bring a certain excitement to the field that sometimes now is lacking. By the way, I too am outside of the 610 listening area down in maryland. Sometimes I can pick it up but far too often it is drowned out with static. But I’ve discovered that I enjoy listening to 610 on the internet in the background while i’m doing other things. It comes in crystal clear obviously and you should try it out
by bula412 on May 19, 2008 11:53 AM EDT 0 recs
This is all too true. I think what makes the TO fiasco particularly difficult for Eagles fans to stomach is that it appears to be the only time, to date, that Eagles management hasn’t buried their head in the sand and were realistic about the roster’s shortcomings. They heard the fans screaming for a game-changing wide receiver to compliment McNabb, they went out and got one and the guy turned out to be a jerk (turned out might be the wrong word, we didn’t learn anything about TO during his time in Philly that we didn’t already know).
It is definitely time to move on but I don’t think the current crop of Eagles pass-catchers are going to make Philly talk radio guys forget about #81 anytime soon.
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by SouthCarolinaIgglesFan on May 19, 2008 12:13 PM EDT 0 recs
So do you think the only way we ever truly rid ourselves of TO is to get another WR of his stature.
You may well be right.
The thing is, I think the Eagles admitted the roster’s shortcomings when they signed Kearse as well… Now that he’s gone and taking some shots at the team… no one talks about him. To be fair, he fizzled out whereas TO flamed in a spectacular 5 alarm blaze… but there is something about the WR position specifically that gets Eagles fans riled up.
by JasonB on
May 19, 2008 12:54 PM EDT
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it's funny you mention this jason
I wore my McNabb Jerseys and my team sweden westbrook throwback last year on my trip to Disneyworld . As we know, the Philly faith travel well and I sparked up probably 50 “E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles” chants out in the parks. I have always been proud to be an Eagles fan and I am sucha pationate fan I converted my dad who was a Cowboys fan for most of my life. But during this trip I was acosted with people telling me how we should have kept TO and ditched McNabb. Isn’t this the same guy that was uncermoniously burned in a coffin and run out of the city and you wish him back and want the guy to leave who has done nothing but good for the team and busted his ass save 2 unfotunate and fairly freak incidents where he got injured. I understand and understood that McNabb was not going to come out of the gates and be the same guy last september and that there would be a time before he was fully healthy. Maybe its because I had a similar injury in high school. I dunno but would these same people be sounding off if McNabb had not got injured, something tells me no they wouldn’t. I understand the frustration better than anyone. I live at the cross rounds of Giants Ave. and Patriots St. For 4 of the past 6 years I have had to watch those around me celebrate while I try and remain hopeful for next season.
by 0sirys on May 19, 2008 12:21 PM EDT 0 recs
I think the only way this really ends
Is if the Eagles win a Super Bowl. If they win it with McNabb at the helm, the question of McNabb vs. TO will have been definitively answered. But if TO should win one in Dallas first, God help us all…Lurie, Reid, Banner, McNabb, any of them that are left will descend forever into Ed Wade territory.
I hate that there’s a still a significant portion of Eagles fans that are on TO’s side. I’ve read the arbitrator’s decision against him from ‘05, and TO had warning after warning after warning.
And for those who say that he’s turned over a new leaf in Dallas, it appears that he has. But he’s done so only after getting the coach who wouldn’t pander to him run out of town.
Like I said in another post, it also annoys me that Donovan McNabb and TO seem to have worked things out…now that it’s too late to do Eagles fans any good. I think the Eagles did the right thing in getting rid of him, but the fans were the real losers, and I understand we/they/most are still bitter about that.
Why the Hell Not?
by BrianS on May 19, 2008 1:45 PM EDT 0 recs
I agree with JasonB, it’s been high time to move on. I don’t get the ongoing fascination with T.O. —it’s been years since he left town, yet fans and media alike are still on his jock.
This never ending obsession continues despite the fact that Dallas has accomplished exactly NOTHING since they signed the guy (still no playoff wins in going on thirteen years now). If he’s so great, where are the results? I, for one, don’t miss him one bit.
by rhy on May 19, 2008 4:37 PM EDT 0 recs
Jason hits my favorite point in the whole TO saga
TO owned the Eagles’ faithful after coming coming back from a broken leg to dominate in the Super Bowl. If he keeps his mouth shut and just plays the second season there is no way on God’s green Earth that the Eagles cut him in Year 3.
It doesn’t fucking happen.
I understand that Owens wanted more guaranteed money. I get that and I don’t begrudge him at all for wanting the security.
But…
If he just goes out and plays that second year and puts up another strong year the Eagles don’t dare cut him because Lowrie and Reid know that if they did such an obvious money move they’d end up dead in their beds. I doubt the cops would even bother investigating, they’d probably write it up as justifiable homicide.
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by grover on May 19, 2008 10:36 PM EDT 0 recs











