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King listed the Eagles as one of his 5 teams he liked on draft weekend.

2. Philadelphia. The Eagles always ask for too much in trade. Always. They couldn't get rid of Lito Shepard last weekend, but that was primarily because Shepard, who gets hurt too much, wants a new contract even though he has four years left on his current one. But the Eagles were able to auction off the 19th pick in the draft for a mind-boggling sum, which they got from Carolina -- second- and fourth-round picks this year and the Panthers' first-round pick next year.

On the draft-trade chart, the 19th overall pick is worth 875 points. If you assign Carolina an average 2008 season and give them the 16th pick in the first round next year, this trade will be worth 1,546 points on the trade chart -- almost double what the 19th pick is worth. In terms of real additions this year, DeSean Jackson as a receiver/returner with the 49th pick is excellent value.

King wasn't the only member of the national media to like the Eagles draft. NBC sports gave the draft an "A" grade

By trading out of the 19th spot, the Birds picked up a first-rounder in next year’s draft. They also took an explosive first-round talent (receiver DeSean Jackson) at No. 47 overall. Notre Dame defensive tackle Trevor Laws, who Philadelphia got 47th, has a motor that never stops running.


Wisconsin defensive back Jack Ikegwuonu has starting potential, but is coming off a torn ACL. Linebacker picks Bryan Smith, Joe Mays, and Andy Studebaker may only be special teamers. Fourth-round safety Quintin Demps can fly.

Grade: A

The local media predictably painted a less rosy picture .

When Day 2 of the NFL draft wrapped up on Sunday, the Eagles had added depth at myriad positions and restocked for the 2009 draft. But they were arguably no better than last season's playoff-absent squad that finished 8-8.

Rich Hoffman asks how McNabb reacted

What does Donovan think? This is different from what he might say in public in the days or weeks following the 2008 NFL draft, when the Eagles again traded out of the first round and used their first pick in the second round on another defensive tackle (Trevor Laws), and then used their next pick on a very fast part-time wide receiver and full-time return specialist who is the size of a 10th-grader (DeSean Jackson), and also traded a fourth-round draft choice for a smallish running back the 1-15 Miami Dolphins didn't want anymore (Lorenzo Booker).

It's always telling when a writer's verbiage reveals his agenda. Jackson was no part time receiver in college. Had Hoffman liked the pick he could have described Jackson as the lightning fast playmaker from Cal who caught 22 TDs over the last three years... But instead he chose to describe him as "the size of a 10th grader." I wonder which description McNabb will use?

Paul Domowich seemed to take a different tact, "3 new Eagles could have sudden impact"

Take a closer look at the players the Eagles acquired this weekend before you rip into Reid again for focusing too much on the future and not enough on the present.

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I like it a lot. We didn’t use any first round picks, but we got first round talent in DeSean Jackson, and we got the defensive tackle we were targetting.

With how close our games were last year, just the improvement DeSean Jackson brings in the return game alone could’ve secured us a playoff spot.

I like Lorenzo Booker too, just because he’s a player we targetted last year and we’re picking him up on the cheap.

Destroyer of Subject Lines :3™

by yomjoseki on Apr 28, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i’m a little disappointed by the fact that the lito trade fell through but pretty happy about jackson and laws coming to philly.

i’m a bit baffled by the bryan smith pick in the 3rd round. does anyone have any 411 on this guy? the guy played DE in college (projected to play OLB in Philly) is only 6’2” 231lbs and ran a 4.75 40. that doesn’t strike me as a dominating figure…

and another thing, if andy reid was really preparing for lito to get traded, he should have chosen another CB just in case. Jake I was a good pick in the 4th round but since he’s injured he won’t be able to play until 2009. That leaves Hansen has your 3rd CB if Lito gets traded and that’s not good.

at this point, it would be better if Lito stayed with the team as the 2nd or 3rd CB and try to keep him hopeful that he’ll be traded next year.

by ringordietryin on Apr 28, 2008 11:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was certain before the draft that Lito was going to be dealt… Now I’m not so sure. Andy said he was going to sit down with Lito and “work something out” next week at the minicamps.

by JasonB on Apr 28, 2008 11:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jason – I am also taking a hard look at what I assumed would happen with Lito and his apparent market value… which may be alot lower than what we thought it was. I know they said they wouldn’t give Lito away, but they would take a reasonable offer. Two things… 1) I’m sure Lito remembers what happened with T.O. and I would hope that he would realize that causing problems and waves will not help the situation. The organization will play hardball if necessary. 2) I’m sure Andy is well aware of the situation and would like to see Sheldon, Asante, and Lito there for this year and see where things fall next year. Also, I believe they will restructure his deal a bit to give him some more cash and understand that he may benefit from not causing problems…

Overall, I think we’re going to keep him, hash something out that will take care of this year and have a hell of a defense this year… Maybe they’re waiting to see what happens with the S position and see if we can shift Sheldon… we’ll see though…

by foos05 on Apr 28, 2008 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we’ll get a better picture about what will happen next week. Andy said he was going to sit down with Lito at the minicamp. My guess is that if they work something out, the Eagles will let us know. If not, expect the trade rumors to swirl again.

by JasonB on Apr 28, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still don't quite understand why everyone wants that trade so badly

I mean, how can you not like Samuel, Lito and Sheldon in the same secondary rotating in and out.

Especially now, I think we should keep him considering we’d only get peanuts in return

It is interesting though, how my opinion during the draft continued to change. I woulda swore that the eagles had to have some HUGE deal planned with the way they were drafting, but after the dust settled their decisions made pretty good sense.

Is it training camp yet?

by 700 Level on Apr 28, 2008 12:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you on this one 700 level.

Why would we not want 2 shut down corners in Lito and Samuel and possibly have sheldon in at safety? Teamed with BDawk this sounds like the best secondary in the league. In the nickel they can bring in another safety and let Sheldon be the 3rd corner. Add the pressure our front seven can bring and this could be one of the top defenses if they can stop the run. I say keep lito around!

by pooch900 on Apr 28, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what exactly are jackson’s measurement? i’ve seen 6’ 178, 5’11” 172, 5”10 178, 6’ 166, 5’9 3/4” 169… i don’t know who to believe. since he’s relatively small, 10lb and 2” differential in ht/wt make a big difference.

if he can play around 185-190 without losing too much speed, that would be ideal and i won’t worry about NFL LBs breaking him in half as i did with Pinky when he was playing.

by ringordietryin on Apr 28, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not sure about his height… but in an interview he said he knew coming out of college at 165 he’d have to add weight… he said he’s a little over 170 and he spoke with Andy and Andy wants him at about 180 for playing weight… I think he’s about 5’11” though

by foos05 on Apr 28, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

40 times

i was just watching jacksons combine workout and he is faster then i thought. the video says he ran a 4.35. does anyone know what the fastest 40 time is in the nfl

by NickPampani on Apr 28, 2008 6:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well the running back Chris Johnson ran a 4.24.

The fastest at this years combine. But Michael Bennett (Tampa Bay) ran a 4.13 at his pro day and I think that is currently the fastest time in the NFL.

by Whodie126 on Apr 28, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude

Anyone find it interesting that Peter King said something POSITIVE about the Eagles?

by ajay on Apr 28, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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