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Time to build our draft board

The blog has grown tremendously over the past year, which I can't thank everyone enough for, but those that we around this time last year might remember the SBN bloggers mock draft. Over the course of a month one blogger from each NFL team acted as that teams' GM and made their pick. Last year I picked a TE in round one, a RB in round two and a DE in round 3. As it turned out the Eagles did pick a RB and DE in the first 3 rounds, although not the guys I picked.

I'm happy to announce that we will be doing the second annual SBN bloggers mock draft starting next Monday. The draft will be two rounds for sure, but could stretch into a 3rd round if time permits.

So what I'd like to do is get the community here to help build our Eagles draft board. In the comments I'd like you to give me your top 5-10 picks you'd like to see the Eagles make in the first round and second round. If you aren't a big draftnik and don't know tons of college players, you can also just give a list of positions you'd like in either round. The idea is that you rank the players in the order you'd like to see them picked if they are still on the board. Remember to be reasonable, obviously Jake Long or Darren McFadden won't be there at #19 so there's really no need to put them on your board.

When we go on clock with the Eagles #19 pick sometime late next week, hopefully we'll have a solid consensus as to who the right guy to take will be. The event will be hosted at our new draft site Mocking the draft. So be sure to check that out in the coming weeks as New Era scouting's draft guru Matt Miller announces all the picks and gives his analysis. Should be fun!

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Limas Sweed, Malcolm Kelly, Kenny Phillips, or James Hardy, in that order.

by yomjoseki on Mar 26, 2008 10:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Draft
Round 1:

Jeff Otah - OT
Chris Williams - OT
Liams Sweed - WR
Kenny Phillips - S
Reggie Smith - S

Round 2:

Reggie Smith - S (assuming we take an OT, and Phillips is already gone)
James Hardy - WR (assuming we didn't take a WR in 1st round)
Patrick Lee - CB
Antoine Caison - CB (if we end up trading Lito, we need a CB, if not, this position won't be addressed this high, if at all)
Devin Thomas - WR

Round 3:
Eddie Royal - WR (assuming we haven't gotten one yet)
Thomas DeCloud - S (assuming we haven't gotten one yet)
Brandon Flowers - CB
Justin King - CB
Dustin Keller - TE

I know there's alot of position (sometimes player) overlap there...

by foos05 on Mar 26, 2008 10:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Round 2
I think a first round pick spent on an OT in a draft so deep at the position would be a waste considering it is not one of our pressing needs.

As for the second round, the best OT available or perhaps DaJuan Morgan. Either that or a WR if we didn't take one yet. I seriously doubt James Hardy will be there by the time our second pick rolls around.

by yomjoseki on Mar 26, 2008 10:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

my top 10
1st round:
if these two receiver are available, i'd like to pick L. Sweed or M. Kelly.  Hardy is also interesting but too raw to be a 1st round talent.

if they're all gone, then go the corner route with players like (upon availability once again) Jenkins, Cason or Brandon Flowers

if eagles want to go the O-line route again, Jeff Otah from Pitt seem most realistic at this point.

2nd round:
this one is bit of a reach, but if Jonathan Stewart's stock drops a lot due to his recent surgery and somehow becomes available, the eagles should definitely select him.

also, there are pretty interesting TE prospects available in the 2nd round.  Martellus Bennett and John Carlson are intriguing players for the 2nd pick.

if the eagles pick a corner or an OT in the 1st round, eddie royal may be a "need" pick as a top return guy in the 2nd round that may blossom into a good receiver in the pros.

CB and WR positions are two of the stronger positions in this draft so I'd rather see the eagles focus on those positions in the top rounds.

i know we're doing only rounds 1 and 2, but i just wanted to let the eagles' front office (in case they read this) to keep an eye on Tom Zbikowski from Notre Dame with our 3rd round pick if he's available.

by ringordietryin on Mar 26, 2008 10:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mock
Jason - I had a great response to a mock I hosted on Eagle Scout Uncensored.  I thought they could help to add to your post.  Here was the concensus from the reader selections:

First Round Selections

OT:  Jeff Otah - Pittsburgh (2)
OT:  Chris Williams - Vanderbilt
OG:  Branden Albert - Virginia
RB:  Felix Jones - Arkansas
DE:  Derrick Harvey - Florida
WR:  James Hardy - Indiana
FS:  Reggie Smith - Oklahoma

Second Round Selections

DT:  Dre Moore - Maryland (2)
RB:  Chris Johnson - East Carolina (2)
FS:  Thomas DeCoud - California
CB:  Charles Godfrey - Iowa
CB:  Justin King - Penn State
DT:  Red Bryant - Texas A&M
DT:  Trevor Laws - Notre Dame

Third Round Selections

WR:  Eddie Royal - Virginia Tech (2)
WR:  Donnie Avery - Houston (2)
CB:  Antwaun Molden - Eastern Kentucky
TE:  Martellus Bennett - Texas A&M
WR:  Dexter Jackson - Appalachian State

See the post here:
  http://eaglescoutuncensored.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/the-mock-draft-thread/

by Eaglescout on Mar 26, 2008 10:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trade
I also firmly believe either the Eagles or the Cowboys (more likely) will trade up. They have similar needs and if Jerry Jones has a hunch that the Eagles are going after the same player, he will absolutely not let the guy they want go to Philadelphia.

by yomjoseki on Mar 26, 2008 10:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

draft
Here is my draft board.

I don't know if we could trade but if we can trade up for Gholston. Beyond that here it goes.

  1. WR Limas Sweed
  2. S  Kenny Phillips
  3. WR James Hardy
  4. OT Jeff Otah
  5. OT best one on the board.
Wild Card. RB Ray Rice. I'm saying a wild card bwcauae I think he might be a good 3rd round pick up. he is very talentd and could cary a load. that doesn't mean he will for us. I do feel however that he woyld bw a dark hourse return man so to speak.  

by NickPampani on Mar 26, 2008 10:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My Top 5
I'll just do the first round:

1.) WR Devin Thomas (Michigan State)
2.) OT Chris Williams (Vanderbilt)
3.) DE Derrick Harvey (Florida)
4.) CB Mike Jenkins (South Florida)
5.) S Kenny Phillips (Miami)

by ajay on Mar 26, 2008 10:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Derrick Harvey
Derrick Harvey makes for a very tempting pick if available, the reason I didn't list him is that I don't think he will be available.

by yomjoseki on Mar 26, 2008 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here Goes
Working with an understanding that I wouldn't draft the same position in consecutive rounds.  And, of course, only listing the players that I think could be available to the Eagles at their respective positions in each round.

1st Rnd Rankings:
OT Chris Williams
CB Mike Jenkins
OT Jeff Otah
FS Kenny Phillips
WR Malcolm Kelly

2nd Rnd Rankings:
CB/S Reggie Smith
S Dujuan Morgan
WR Early Doucet
OT Anthony Collins

The one thing I really want the Eagles to do in the early rounds is add depth in the secondary -- beyond that, O-Line insurance and a playmaker on the edges would be nice.

by BFH on Mar 26, 2008 11:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

clearing my namely
I realize I put kenny phillips very high on my draft board yet just last week I was pretty much against the idea. I'm admitting that last week I was wrong. after looking into kenny phillips more I think he would be a great fit on our team, weather it be a t free or strong saftey. he might even do well in that hybrid lb saftey type possition that we have.

by NickPampani on Mar 26, 2008 11:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dont forget about
Earl Bennett. none of you guys have him on your draft boards. Why?

by NickPampani on Mar 26, 2008 11:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bennett
Because I put together my list quickly off the top of my head and forgot him, actually.  I'd slide him in in the second round, though not at the top of my list.  

by BFH on Mar 26, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

here
  1.  Malcolm Kelly (WR)
  2.  Phillip Merling (DE/DT)
  3.  Jeff Otah (OT)
  4.  Chris Williams (OT)
  5.  James Hardy (WR)
  6.  DaJuan Morgan (S)
  7.  Patrick Lee (CB)
  8.  Calais Campbell (DE)
  9.  Quintin Demps (FS)
  10. Felix Jones (RB)
I think Malcolm Kelly is too good to pass up if he is around, he can fill the need as a big time reciever and yes maybe not this year but he will contribute.  I don't see the Birds trading up because they as long as me are happy with the team we have and the picks we have, so I put this board together in that mindset.  I have said I don't think they will take a DE in the first round because they just sign Clemons and blah blah but Merling is a good run stuffer who can play End or Tackle and Andy might not be able to say No.  Merling, Otah, Williams could all be switched around I think one of these 3 will realistically be our first round pick.  I put Hardy at 5 because I would like to maybe move up in the second to get him but not take him in the first.  Dajuan Morgan is a big physical quick Safety and has a similar style to Dawk.  Patrick Lee is big (6' 200) and fast (4.4) I think we probably go with a CB/S/WR that can return here but I thought I'd mix things up.  Calais is huge and the birds would probably move him to DT or run stuffing DE but he could be a good pickup for depth.  Quintin Demps this is a stretch as he is a probably only going to be a good role player but he can return and has good speed, I see this only if we trade down in the second or into the third.  Felix Jones because I see this being a Third-Fourth round pick were we are looking for a young kid to develop but can return kicks.  Put any RB/S/CB/WR that could be an immediate starter in the return game here.

by Whodie126 on Mar 26, 2008 11:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

tsk tsk
andy reid has never drafted a rb higher than the 3rd round jasonb!

by JoeD on Mar 26, 2008 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was because of Leonard
I know the Eagles worked him out privately and there were lots of reports they were interested in him. So I thought there was a chance they'd actually take him there.

by JasonB on Mar 26, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1st round wishlist
Assuming someone high like Derrick Harvey, Ryan Clady, or even one of the top CB's don't slip to us, here are my 1st round wishes.
  1. Jeff Otah
  2. DeSean Jackson
  3. Malcolm Kelly
  4. Kenny Phillips
In my humble opinion, these are the only 1st round talents that we should consider at 19th pick.

Players I DON'T want to see:

  • Chris Williams (not sold on him)
  • Limas Sweed, James Hardy, Devin Thomas, and any other WR's (to me these guys are all 2nd rounders)
  • LB, G, TE or QB

by Steve in DC on Mar 26, 2008 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sweed?
Why is everyone so down on Sweed and up on Kelly?  From what I've seen, Kelly has difficulty separating, which is exactly the problem most Eagles receivers have had in the last few years.  But from what I've seen on Sweed he is a playmaker.  Just want to hear why everyone else seems to feel differently about these two.

by Ivan Bravo on Mar 26, 2008 1:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hmm
at 6'4" 220 and the average NFL DB is 5'11" he is already starting out with 5 inches of seperation.  I watched both of these guys play in college, and they get the same amount of seperation.  Kelly and Sweed both ran a 4.5 40s which isn't speedy but isn't slow.  These two are mirror images of each other in almost every aspect.  They also both have amazing body control, hands and ball skills.  I can't speak for everyone but I like Kelly more because of tape I have seen of him playing but more importantly Sweed has had a wrist injury for the better part of a year now and had to have surgery and was not able to recover. He re-injured it during the senior bowl and it looks like it could continue to linger.  Kelly has played 1 less season than Sweed but has more TDs, Yards, and Receptions which is impressive and the kid is on 21.  Sweed is going to be turning 24 this year.

by Whodie126 on Mar 26, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ok
I'm changing my vote to kelly. I noticed the year diffence before but I forgot to look at age.

by NickPampani on Mar 26, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kelly has injury problems too...
He's had two knee injuries that made him miss the last two bowl games.

I think Kelley is a more fluid runner. You can really notice how well his hips move and how effortlessly he turns and cuts.

I think Sweed is a more physical player and plays with a bit more attitude. He also strikes me as a guy with more of a knack for the great play.

I'd be cool with either...

by JasonB on Mar 26, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correction...
On Kelly's injury history

Suffered a concussion in '06, cartilage damage in knee in '06, required surgery.  In '07 suffered hip pointer.  Suffered leg contusion in Fiesta Bowl.

by JasonB on Mar 26, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Malcolm Kelly
We are all a little to desperate for a big time receiver. We are trying to convince ourselves their is one worth a first round pick! Mike Mayock said Monday night on Path to the Draft that Malcolm Kelly's knees were so bad that several teams didn't even have him on their draft boards!!!! This is a serious red flag to me. Sweed is average at best. Devin Thomas maybe, but not as a first rounder!

1st round
Jeff Otah or Derrick Harvey (would need to trade up for him) or if any of the top corners slide Rodgers-Cromartie, Jenkins or Talib.

2nd Round
Justin King CB or Brandon Flowers CB

3rd Round
John Carlson TE

4th Round
Tom Zbikowski S  

by Jkreck on Mar 26, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I
Doubt we will waste a 3rd rounder on John Carlson when we drafted a TE in the 5th round last year that stepped up and we just signed Kris Wilson to a 3 year deal.  Right now we have 4 on our roster and while Wilson won't be a starter he is a great role player.  

by Whodie126 on Mar 26, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carlson
I think he could be gone by the 3rd... I think he could go somewhere in the mid 2nd round.

by JasonB on Mar 26, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Celek
I'm glad you have such confidence in Celek. When LJ signs with another team next year I would like us to have a playmaker at the TE position. Its so important in our offense.

Maybe even Dustin Keller fro Purdue!

by Jkreck on Mar 26, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DRAFT BOARD
Round 1:
  1. Ryan Clady, OT
  2. Limas Sweed, WR
  3. Chris Williams, OT
  4. Jeff Otah, OT
  5. Deshean Jackson, WR
  6. Devin Thomas, WR
  7. James Hardy, WR
  8. Kenny Phillips, S
Round 2:
  1. An OT (if not drafted in 1st round)
  2. Fred Davis, TE
  3. Mario Manningham, WR
  4. Reggie Smith, CB/S
  5. Jordy Nelson, WR
  6. Early Doucet, WR
Round 3:
  1. Jordy Nelson, WR
  2. Martellus Bennet/Dustin Keller, TEs
  3. Andre Caldwell/Earl Bennett, WRs
  4. Duane Brown/Carl Nicks, OTs
  5. A safety (Demps, Zbikowski???)
  6. Terrell Thomas, CB

by vliardi on Mar 26, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm too lazy to go three rounds
M. Jenkins
K. Phillips
J. Hardy
T. Laws (A bit of a reach but he won't be there in the 2nd round)
D. Jackson

by Tracer Bullet on Mar 26, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DRAFT BOARD
Round 1:

   1. Chris Williams  OT
   2. Jeff Otah       OT
   3. Derick Harvey   DE
   4. Mike Jenkins    CB
   5. Kenny Phillips  S
   6. Malcolm Kelly   WR
   7. Phillip Merling DE/T

Round 2:

   1. Chris Johnson RB
   2. Tracey Porter CB
   3. Antoine Cason CB
   4. Carl Nicks    OT
   5. Trevor Laws   DT
   6. Dre Moore     DT
   7. Brad Cottam   TE
   8. Dustin Keller TE
   9. James Hardy   WR

Round 3:

   1. Jordy Nelson     WR
   2. Adarius Bowman   WR
   3. Justin King      CB
   4. Josh Barrett     SS
   5. Kendall Langford DE/T
   6. Ezra Butler      LB

by Buckwampum Birds Fan on Mar 26, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So far
It looks like OT and WR are the consensus top positions...

by JasonB on Mar 26, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ha
That's because you are looking at a little hopes and dreams mixed with the reality of Andys draft history.  Everyone here wants a WR but knows Andy will be drafting an OT.  Either way the draft goes I like our team right now and can't wait for September.

by Whodie126 on Mar 27, 2008 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My top 10 players that may be draftable
  1. Vernon Gholston (somehow someway)
  2. Jeff Otah
  3. Chris Williams
  4. Antonio Rogers-Cromartie (if he falls)
  5. Derrick Harvey
  6. Tom Zbkowksi
  7. Dan Connor
  8. Ryan Clady
  9. Devin Thomas
  10. Donnie Avery

by mooremike35 on Mar 27, 2008 10:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thomas
Devin Thomas is your top ranked WR? My best friend is a Michigan St Alum so I follow them basically for conversation purposes.  This kid is raw and only really had 1 good year which happened to be last year.  The year before he was garbage and the year before that he was in junior college.  I think he will have a good career in the pros but he will take at least a year maybe two to develop into a starter.  I know there isn't much in the way of options at WR this year but I think the Eagles will be looking for someone who is an immediate impact.  I'm guessing you like him for his hands and size but also his return ability which I understand.  They have shown more confidence in letting young players play then they have in the past.

by Whodie126 on Mar 27, 2008 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen scouts that said
Not many... but some people are very high on Thomas.

by JasonB on Mar 28, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea
I wasn't trying to say he isn't a good player I think he is.  I also think he will be good in the pros.  The point I was trying to convey is that he will take time to put on some size, learn the offense and develop.  While the eagles could take him in the later round I think if they pick a WR in the 1-2 range they will be looking for an immediate impact player.  With that said I'm not convinced that player exists at WR in this draft.  Maybe Kelly/Sweed/Manningham/Hardy (winced as I typed those last two).

by Whodie126 on Mar 28, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Top 5 1st & 2nd
1st:

Chris Williams OT
Jeff Otah OT
Kenny Phillips S
Mike Jenkins CB
Derrick Harvey DE

2nd:

Devin Thomas WR (i think he falls)
Chris Johnson RB
Brandon Flowers CB
Dajuan Morgan S
Trevor Laws DT

by daveG10 on Mar 28, 2008 10:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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