Guns and the NFL
The big story this week in the NFL is of course Plaxico Burress. Burress was accidentally shot in the leg when the unregistered handgun he was carrying went off in an NYC nightclub. Burress turned himself in to police and will be charged for carrying an unregistered firearm. If convicted, Burress faces a mandatory minimum sentence of 3 1/2 years in prison. New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg wants to make an example of the WR.
"I don't think that anybody should be exempt from that," Bloomberg said. "It would be an outrage if we don't prosecute to the fullest extent of the law."
Not prosecuting celebrities would make "a sham, a mockery of the law," the mayor asserted.
The mandatory sentencing would not necessarily apply if Burress is offered a plea bargain.
Defense lawyers said prosecutors are loath to cut a deal. "The DAs ... have been very hard-nosed on this," said veteran criminal defense lawyer Martin Geduldig. "They expect jail time."
The Eagles have been no stranger to gun incidents as Reuben Frank points out today. There was the minor Jabar Gaffney arrest, Broderick "Desert Eagle" Bunkley had several of his guns stolen, and the most serious was the shooting of Jerome McDougle a few years ago. In the past year we've seen Shawn Taylor be shot and killed and Richard Collier paralyzed by a gun shot.
After seeing what happened to Collier and Taylor it's hard to blame a player for wanting to protect themselves, but as Lito Sheppard says it's about responsibility.
"You've got to know when and where you can do things,” Sheppard said. "You don't want to put yourself in that position. Mine's always been registered. And I try not to carry it half the time. Even if I have to use it, do I really want to use it?”
"Anybody in this profession, you get a lot of publicity on TV, but you still like to do normal things, can be a target. I still like to go Wal-Mart or the mall. You're definitely a target. You just hope you don't get put in a bad situation.”
I have to agree with Lito here. I can fully understand an NFL player feeling the need to carry protection and I can't say I'd do any different if I were them. However, it's about being responsible.
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McDougle
Didn’t you mean McDougle and not Bunk?
by JGCarraway on Dec 2, 2008 10:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i concur
the stakes are high for most NFLers. why wouldn’t they carry a gun.
however, i cannot see the rationalle behind carrying an unregistered firearm. in a nightclub.
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by psudrozz on Dec 2, 2008 11:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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of his sweatpants. I’m a big 2nd Amendment guy, I grew up around guns (my dad’s a cop) and I don’t think they’re nearly as bad as most people think they are, but putting a loaded gun without a safety on (Glocks don’t have safety’s apparently) in your SWEATPANTS is just idiocy at its highest form.
by cjmulrain on Dec 3, 2008 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to feel bad for him. I understand the need for NFL players to protect themselves. I think the 3.5 years minimum sentence is ridiculous, all things considered.
But then I read that his wife is a lawyer. That is so damning. If anyone in the league has the resources to get through the NYS or NYC carry/conceal process it’s him. And I can’t feel bad for him any more.
by BFH on Dec 2, 2008 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I always bring my unregistered gun with me when I go out drinking.
How can you really party without a gun?
Come on… he’s a dumb ass.
Burress to Cowboys?
The road to victory!
by jayt on Dec 2, 2008 11:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Burress to Cowboys?
Only a matter of time…
World F*ckin' Champions, indeed...
by foos05 on Dec 2, 2008 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sean Taylor was murdered in his home by people who in no way were associated with him. Joe_D, you’re sort of being an asshole here.
What did Jerome McDougle do that was so wrong again?
Tiki said that Steve Smith was robbed at gunpoint outside of his home.
Carrying an illegal gun is a serious crime. And if I made the money Plax does I would hire security for when I wanted to party. But these guys have every reason to worry about their safety.
I wonder how many incidents may have gone unreported.
by BFH on Dec 2, 2008 1:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And I immediately regret using the “a-hole” term. Sorry, Joe_D. I just think the facts don’t back up what you’re saying: “Sean Taylor’s thug life did him in.”
Which it didn’t.
by BFH on Dec 2, 2008 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Weren’t a couple of the guys that went into Sean Taylors house friends or associated with one of his cousins?
by BMY on Dec 2, 2008 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well Shawn Andrews he had a gun pulled on him and didn’t report it.
by JasonB on Dec 2, 2008 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The guys who make up the bottom third of NFL rosters have an interesting choice when they go out.
They don’t have the big contracts or the job security of the other guys, so they don’t really have the resources to hire security.
Let’s put it this way — If I were Plaxico Burress I would hire security. If I were Jon Dorenbos, I would get a pistol permit and carry that thing with me.
But I sure as hell wouldn’t be drinking with it.
by BFH on Dec 2, 2008 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
People dont even know who Dorenbos is. I doubt he HAS to pack heat
and trust me, I’m all for carrying guns for protection. I just dont think the athletes are in as much danger as preseneted
by Joe_D on Dec 2, 2008 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The real tragedy ...
… is that the 2nd Amendment of our Constitution says that Plexiglass was doing nothing wrong (except for shooting himself), but no one will lift a finger to actually defend the rights that our founding fathers ultimately rebelled over.
The fights at Lexington and Concord were started because the British were going to confiscate heavy weaponry owned by the Colonials.
Of course, if someone has to get ensnarred by the insane and illegal gun laws of NYC and NJ, I’m glad its a Giant who does nothing but hurt us in games.
However, it is truly a crime that Plexiglass is about to get in real trouble over doing nothing worse than exercising a constitutional right we all possess but which our “servants” in government deny us under duress and the pain of penal punishment and the loss of liberty.
by Andrew B on Dec 2, 2008 9:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Plax is allowed to legally carry a gun. He’s just not allowed to carry an unregistered one that goes off in a nightclub and shoots him in the leg.
Had the bullet hit someone else would anyone question whether he should be punished or not? Nothing in the constitution says you can use a gun in an irresponsible manner that gets someone shot, even if that someone is you.
Burress has the means, the knowledge(his wife is a lawyer), the connections, the need… absolutely everything a person would need to legally carry a firearm in New York and yet he didn’t do it. He has no excuses.
by JasonB on Dec 3, 2008 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t need a permit to go to Church or write on BGN or yell at a Cowgirls “fan”.
Why do you need a permit to defend yourself?
by Andrew B on Dec 3, 2008 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No one is trying to come in to Plaxico’s home and take his gun.
That heavy penalty (3.5 years in prison) is designed to deter behavior exactly like this. People in NYC deserve the right to go out at night and feel safe.
If you can prove that you need a gun when you go out in public, and you have no criminal record, then the option to obtain a carry/conceal permit is there.
But the notion that the big government boogeyman is somehow trying to confiscate your guns is nonsense.
And let me remind you, I’m all about NFL players carrying guns (or hiring bodyguards if they have the resources) to protect themselves… I would. But legally!
by BFH on Dec 3, 2008 8:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“No one is trying to come in to Plaxico’s home and take his gun.”
They will be in a few months once he is convicted of the “crime” of possessing a firearm in Manhattan. If you are a gun owner, you need to stay away from New York City if you value your liberty. Sad but true.
“People in NYC deserve the right to go out at night and feel safe.”
NYC is dangerous because the citizens are disarmed and the criminals don’t obey those type of laws anyway. Don’t be fooled by the disneyfied facade of the “new” Times Square, which is only propped up by the massive police presence NYC requires to maintain outward civil harmony (NYC employs 38,000 officers, the equivalent of almost 4 full-strength army divisions). We aren’t “made safe” by denying people their rights.
by Andrew B on Dec 3, 2008 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You seem a bit fanatical about this particular issue, so I’ll just leave it alone.
by BFH on Dec 3, 2008 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of bull shit that my comments were deleted.
The PC-ness in today’s world is just one of it’s many problems. White guys cant say anything anymore.
We can all pity some of the rich thugs who go to clubs and get involved with violent acts but to look at the other side is wrong and racist since the players that do get invovled are black. time to post stephen a smith’s article on it since he’s black and it’s ok.
by Joe_D on Dec 3, 2008 12:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
your comments are/were pretty bigoted ... so I'm cool with it.
I mean just because White guys aren’t going to clubs and carrying guns they are alright? you are taking the NFL population and stating it as fact for the entire country. While black males might be involved in more gang and drug related crimes than white males, white males are involved in more sex related (rape, molestation, etc.) then Blacks.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
by Whodie126 on Dec 3, 2008 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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