Cleveland Browns at Philadelphia Eagles Open Thread
by JasonB on Dec 15, 2008 7:40 PM EST
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PrintCleveland Browns at Philadelphia Eagles, Dec 15, 2008 8:30 PM EST
Location: Lincoln Financial Field - Philadelphia, PA
Time; 8:30 pm
TV/Radio: ESPN/6ABC/610WIP/94WYSP
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Did you know?
Brian Dawkins will play his 181st game in an Eagles jersey which is a franchise record.
Bottom line
It's a must win, they all are from here on out. The 4-9 Browns have lost 4 straight, we've won 2 straight against 2 playoff teams. We're at home... There's no excuses. The Eagles are overwhelming favorites(+14.5!) and if they turn in the same effort tonight as they did against the Giants they should win this game big.
But as always without our Eagles... we never know what team will step on the field. A big win tonight would show the consistency we've been wanting all year.
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Inactives
Eagles declared WR Reggie Brown, third QB A.J. Feeley, RB Lorenzo Booker, LB Joe Mays, DE Bryan Smith, OG Chris Patrick, OG Shawn Andrews, and TE Matt Schobel inactive for Week 15 against Cleveland.
Browns declared TE Kellen Winslow, CB Travis Daniels, RB Jerome Harrison, S Hamza Abdullah, LB Kris Griffin, LB Beau Bell, OG Scott Young, and DL Santonio Thomas inactive for Week 15.
Can this game start already ... easily my least productive day at work.
What’s everyone drinking tonight? some left over Labatt Blue some friends left at my house for me, nothing tastes better than free beer.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
But not mixed together
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by WanderingMoses on Dec 15, 2008 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
I was wondering that.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
They counteract
Yuengling puts me to sleep (been up since 5 AM) and the Coke keeps me awake.
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by WanderingMoses on Dec 15, 2008 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
I hate Tony Kornheiser
and I grew up loving him, but now….just ugh.
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His Sunday Style Columns
in the WashPost were a must-read, but I think he has lost any semblance of being a journalist or columnist.
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by WanderingMoses on Dec 15, 2008 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
I like him as a writer and on PTI but on MNF he sucks.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
LET'S GO BIRDS!!!!!!!
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
ESPN MNC has all picked the Eagles.
We are doomed!
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he’s 60 years old … it happens … aparently.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
I’m 50, if my hair looked liked that I’d go “Donovan” and shave it all off.
I bleed green and I piss silver and blue
me too
though i’m still a couple years short of 40
by cavortingEagle on Dec 15, 2008 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
aren’t you always unhappy … bet your happy about the Phils new starter Park huh? /sarcasm
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
would you be happy with a 2 yard run?
by cavortingEagle on Dec 15, 2008 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
There's a run I am happy with
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by WanderingMoses on Dec 15, 2008 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
nice catch
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Westbrook is especially good on the delay and draw plays. Gives him more time to scope out holes in the line.
runs set up by an effective passing attack
by cavortingEagle on Dec 15, 2008 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
What a fucking catch … way to be Curtis
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Hopefully, Andy doesn’t exhaust his script here.
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How big is having Curtis back?
His second half numbers have been good. It’s like what Reggie Brown does in a season and a half.
anyone know if Reggie is even practicing with first team anymore?
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
me and your wife have something in common.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
I hate the Wildcat...
…unless D.Jax is running it
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I think he would have lost
but since the refs aren’t using ‘conclusive evidence’ anymore, maybe not
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by WanderingMoses on Dec 15, 2008 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
you are correct sir
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Agreed.
Andy keep the flag in your pocket. He hasn’t won any this year, has he?
I said it last time...
Avant is the only one with the balls to go over the middle
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understandable given the circumstances
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
good blocking by Celek.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Agreed.
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by WanderingMoses on Dec 15, 2008 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
I need at total of 4 pts from Westbrook/Jackson to make the semi’s of my fantasy league. Pretty safe bet!
I bleed green and I piss silver and blue
damn
that was a nice drive until the end … but I’ll take a FG after escaping that tipped ball.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Odd...
Donovan doesn’t usually miss high. Usually the turf is wide open.
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Seems the Birds...
…have problems with receivers numbered 17
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In what world is letting Dawkins cover Braylon Edwards a good idea? And why can’t the front four get any pressure?
+1
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by WanderingMoses on Dec 15, 2008 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
I always thought that was a JJ show-blitz that the bears borrowed
by cavortingEagle on Dec 15, 2008 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
Could be. I usually see the Eagles bringing an LB up the middle with a DB off the edge or a DE freelancing, but you may be right.
by Tracer Bullet on Dec 15, 2008 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
The Playcalling
FB has the damn chart again. Notice how the quickly the run was abandon
ed inside the 10? Let’s hope for more running (balanced playcalling?) on this drive.
Fat Boy
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by WanderingMoses on Dec 15, 2008 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Working?
Not when it results in 3 inc’s and a field goal it’s not. This team struggles the closer they get to the endline, and the more the area of field decreases that the opponent needs to cover.
Nice catch
but he can’t be Santana Moss and run backwards.
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by WanderingMoses on Dec 15, 2008 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Baskett should have dropped that one.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
makes up for it ... but you are right he has to know where he is.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Jacobs
6-4
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Alright, you got me. But he’s also 260lbs.
by Tracer Bullet on Dec 15, 2008 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
Andy
letting McNabb call more audibles? I’ve heard quite a few so far.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Audibles
would explain some of the passing. And yes, nice run, good calll. Time for the line to start imposing its will.
Fuck
hey that was a hell of an INT though.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Ah, yes.
Not only a pass, but a dumb pass. Yay. Much better than manning up and driving the Browns into the endzone. sigh.
Really you are blaming Reid for a players decision?
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
you realize they go score a td
and this game is tied…. there is NO WAY we don’t get at least 3 there. unacceptable.
Yes, I'm blaming playcalling
The calls inside the 10 on the last two drives were pass heavy and atrocious.
I hate any play that has anyone but the QB throw the ball. HB options, reverse passes, that play… It leads to bad things far more than good.
Yeah, that would irritate me less if it was a fake QB draw by McNabb. At least they wouldn’t have been waiting for a trick play.
Samuel peaking in the backfield, gets beat.
by Tracer Bullet on Dec 15, 2008 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
clairvoyant
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Pick 6 baby
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
really?
WTF dude. I hope DJax gives him shit.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
haha
like they practice it
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Probably about the same odds that one team would twice have a FG blocked for a TD just before half time and go on to win.
by Tracer Bullet on Dec 15, 2008 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, if he wasn’t a player I don’t know what he would be doing on the field. Because he certainly is not a Ref.
lol…like when announcers talk about what great ‘football’ players they are and when they run the ‘football’ instead of just the ball.
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by WanderingMoses on Dec 15, 2008 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Reid: The next motherfucker who drops a ball before he’s through the back of the endzone is going to do laps with Runyan on his back until they both lose 20 pounds.
dude we lose another guard or two
and we may have to put Reid into the game ;-)
Weis...
because he had the ‘schematic advantage’ and the fact that almost everyone is equal in the NFL as opposed to college.
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by WanderingMoses on Dec 15, 2008 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Way to be Trent.
you deserve a Pro Bowl bid son.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Celek as fullback … hmm
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
H-Back doesn't exist anymore
Joe Gibbs was re-frozen.
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by WanderingMoses on Dec 15, 2008 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Reid: Jackson! Motherfucker, the next time you run backwards on a punt return, I’m making you score smack for Garrett in Kensington at 2 a.m.
No, he'll shoot his eye out
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by WanderingMoses on Dec 15, 2008 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
No.
And I might make him wear at Romo jersey.
by Tracer Bullet on Dec 15, 2008 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
stewart bradley hikes it to jamal jackson
who tries to throw it to LJ and gets an INT
They gave him a sack.
Didn’t he get back to the line?
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Stud.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Desean
will be the leading rookie wide reiever after this game I think
so thats a good bet then.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
No fucking way.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
SNEAK THAT FUCKER!
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
No you have to pass. A failed sneak means the end of the half. A failed pass presumably means a FG… of course that’s not how it worked out…
as an NFL team with a QB the size of McNabb if you can’t sneak for inches you should be ashamed of yourself.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
I’ll add I understand what you say but especially at 17-3 you take the risk.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
maybe not the Skins.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
TODAY, this is good enough. Against Washington, and certainly against Dallas, this won’t get it done.
by Tracer Bullet on Dec 15, 2008 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
It's not the score alone
This is a run for the playoffs. With calls like this, do you really see them making any noise in the postseason? Where they won’t be playing the Browns?
its frustrating
that mcnabb should have 3 td passes and this game should be 21-3… but w/e.
after half time im sure Andy Reid will give them an earful
and if it worked
you would be saying what a great call it was.. The call was fine, it was just not executed
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
Eh, I would still say risky call
Why not try a quick slant? That’s a higher percentage play in that situation right?
show me the stats
show me the stat that fades are more often interception than slants. until then you’re just grabbing
come onnnn
In the NFL you gotta run the fade route. Don’t you think scrapping the fade route from the Eagles’ red zone playbook would make the job, well, easier for the Defense? come on!
I'm not saying scrap it
It’s worked in the past. Just in that situation when you have 9 seconds left and can still get a FG. It’s too risky!
I agree
That is a high percentage play. The QB just has to make the call. A well thrown fade is impossible to pick. A well thrown fade is either caught by the WR or goes out of bounds.
good point, ajay, but....
but mcnabb should have thrown it so its either a TD or out of bounds…
reminder
The Phillies won a championship. Thought that’d cheer you guys up.
Y’know, I’m not too upset, the first pick was from Jackson…come on. And the FAde in that position was great, we just got it jumped that’s all. In fact, it was a great play by westbrook and company to stop the td.
mac
should have thrown an actual jump ball.
It was off the mark.
had he put it UP it’d’ve been a TD or a FG
by cavortingEagle on Dec 15, 2008 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
We’re fortunate to not be down by more; Eagles’ red zone miscues are the difference in it being just two scores.
We just hope to see some of Cribbs throwing the rock already…
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the browns aren't really THAT bad..
were making them look that bad…
they scored two fieldgoals in their first 2 possessions against the titans D..
we’re not playing that bad… were not playing GREAT.. but good enough..
don’t worry guys they’ll get it together, games like this make you prone to little mistakes, its no biggy… good think the browns CB’s ate those extra curly fries at arby’s
BTW, I need the Eagles’ defense to get me three more points in my fantasy league. Think you guys can rough up Dorsey a bit? ;)
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Another Touchback?????
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by WanderingMoses on Dec 15, 2008 10:07 PM EST reply actions
I hate racists and homophobes infinitely more than I hate a football team.
by FuquaManuel on Dec 15, 2008 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Cleveland run game is no good tonight.
That is a tribute to the run D
Hope I don’t speak too soon.
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by WanderingMoses on Dec 15, 2008 10:08 PM EST reply actions
I don’t know if this’s been discussed (dog needed out), but I wanted to note that on Asante’s TD…
1) He dropped the ball outside of the end zone on purpose.
and,
2) after he picked it up – he celebrated (by himself) like DeSean and Quentin.
I’m behind again (out till next commercial)
by cavortingEagle on Dec 15, 2008 10:10 PM EST reply actions
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