The story of 6 QBs Part 2

by NickPampani on Nov 28, 2008 10:26 PM EST Comment 21 comments

Ok so with all out QB controversy I have came up with a little comparison. Here is 6 different QB both past and present in which most of them if not all will be Hall of Fame QBs. I took the first 10 years of each of their careers and lined them up against each other.

	Games	Comp.	Att.	Pct.	Yards	YPG	TD	Int
QB1	140	2993	4931	60.7%	34706	247.9	255	155
QB2	123	2424	4132	58.7%	28174	229.05	185	89
QB3	151	3159	5284	59.7%	39502	261.60	300	165
QB4	85	1926	2959	65.1%	24008	282.44	152	100
QB5	130	2524	4517	55.9%	29878	229.83	153	154
QB6	144	2475	4336	57.1%	30216	209.83	158	157

	TD per Game	Int per Game	Sacks	Sacks per Game	Rate	Super Bowl Wins	SB By Retire
QB1	1.82	1.10	299	2.13	77.7	1	NA
QB2	1.50	0.72	316	2.56	85.3	0	NA
QB3	1.98	1.09	153	1.01	88.2	0	0
QB4	1.78	1.17	210	2.47	84.8	1	NA
QB5	1.17	1.18	257	1.97	78.7	0	NA
QB6	1.09	1.09	325	2.25	72.9	0	2

So there are some numbers of 6 very good and very well known QBs but 10 years doesnt mean much. this is a tough game and its all about what you've done for me lately so i have came up with that stat too. here is the last 3 years of each QBs 10 years. so thatis season 8 9 and 10

	Games	Comp.	Att.	Pct.	Yards	YPG	TD	Int
QB1	48	1026	1726	59.4%	12115	252.39	73	62
QB2	35	706	1189	59.4%	8741	249.74	51	23
QB3	48	954	1634	58.4%	11649	242.68	70	40
QB4	26	631	994	63.5%	7507	288.73	44	31
QB5	42	908	1558	58.3%	10678	254.23	53	50
QB6	44	710	1269	55.9%	9021	205.02	38	43

	TD per Game	Int per Game	Sacks	Sacks per Game	Rate
QB1	1.52	1.29	106	2.20	80.2
QB2	1.45	0.65	82	2.34	88.8
QB3	1.45	0.83	70	1.45	84.5
QB4	1.69	1.19	57	2.19	88.3
QB5	1.26	1.19	77	1.83	77.0
QB6	0.86	0.97	124	2.81	73.2

What do you think? who are thes QBs? who do you like? who is overrated? who should be let go from their respective team at that time? who would you trust more to lead the eagles into the next few years of the rebuilding process?

That was the nformation that was given and the pole showed that.

8% wanted QB1
35% wanted QB2
29% wanted QB3
23% wanted QB4
0% wanted QB5
2% wanted QB6

and this was supposed to be based on performance although some peaple im sure did it based on who they thought McNabb was whether it be for better of for worse.

And before i actualy anounce who every QB was i will first show one last set of stats.

In the 12th game of that 10th season i each QB has done....

	Comp.	Att.	Pct.	Yards	TD	Int	Sacks	Rate
QB1	31	51	60.8%	267	1	3	3	56.6
QB2	27	39	69.2%	260	4	0	1	121.7
QB3	26	42	61.9%	259	1	1	5	77.4
QB4	18	30	60.0%	169	2	1	0	83.9
QB5	27	41	65.9%	343	3	0	3	116.2
QB6	20	29	69.0%	210	0	3	2	50.1

Now looking at those states it is now clear who McNabb was and as many of you guessed it was #2. but here is the list

QB1-------- Brett Favre
QB2-------- McNabb
QB3-------- Dan Marino
QB4-------- Kurt Warner
QB5-------- Kerry Collins
QB6-------- John Elway

now i picked these people because i first though of people who said McNabb was past his prime and all the while Favre Collins and Warner are much older and are playing incrdible. i also decided to throw in two other HOF QBs to even things out and show any doubters how good #5 really is.

However i must be hounest i didnt know how this would go as i was doing this. but when it worked out that McNabb was nost likely on the same level as Marino and Favre and even much better then Elway i was surprised.

One thing i did notice is that alot f these QBs had a slump period around this same time in their career. its odd but its ot just McNabb.

Now since you know who's who what do you think. McNabb did beat out people like Favre Elway and Marino. thats amazing amung its self but to top that off he did it without finishing this season. in the 10 season McNadd only had 11 games because thats what he played so far, while everyone else had the full 16 games.

Poll

After seeing the stats and knowing what we know do we keep McNabb of get rid of him?

Keep Him

30 votes

Trade/Drop him

3 votes

33 votes | Poll has closed

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wooow man… great post bro, realy a great post

Look, our star RB is nowhere near 100%, our backup RB is out, and our 3rd string RB goes down when defenders blow in his general direction.

by Remis on Nov 29, 2008 12:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

thanks alot man

i just hope the front office sees it and keep McNabb

by NickPampani on Nov 29, 2008 12:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

whether we keep him will be largely due to cap space and how we finish this season . beating ARI is one thing, beating the skins, dal, and wsh is another…

by Joe_D on Nov 29, 2008 2:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

isnt the skins and wsh the same team?

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by anuj on Nov 29, 2008 7:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yes my bad heh

by Joe_D on Nov 30, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thoughtful post, Nick

I do agree with Joe_D. Beating AZ and St. Louis is one thing, beating a team from the NFC East is another. We need to see a performance like Thursdays in big games vs. NFC East opponents.

by JJinPA on Nov 29, 2008 9:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

dont forget

alot of great QBs lost to devision rivals and hada poor season and if their teams gave up on them then Favre and elway would of never had their Super Bowl rings

by NickPampani on Nov 29, 2008 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Very nicely done, it puts what most people care about (production) in a very objective form.

by Badassador on Nov 29, 2008 10:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

VERY GOOD POST

its hard to find a good QB in the NFL we got 1

by FLAeagle on Nov 29, 2008 12:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Take a look at the career of Elway. Similar to McNabb, he had a lot of success early in his career, going deep into the playoffs but never able to win the big one. It took him 8 years (‘89 – ’97) to get back to the superbowl and finally win it at 37 years old. During that span, the Broncos had seasons of 5-11, 8-8 (2 times), 9-7 and7-9. I am curious if Denver fans were calling for Elway’s head the same way some Eagles fans are now calling for Donovan’s? One notable difference between their 2 careers was that Denver was not afraid to make coaching changes. After Reeves left in ’92, Wade Phillips got 2 years before Shanahan finally took over in ’95.

by captain nodar on Nov 29, 2008 3:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

if you look at elways career

honestly McNabbs is way better and more successful

by NickPampani on Nov 29, 2008 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

by captain nodar on Nov 29, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

what a shocking statistic

guess who leads the league in dropped passes folks?

The Eagles do.

1) Philadelphia – 28
2) Cleveland – 27
3) Denver – 25
4) Indianapolis – 25

You know what’s hilarious? If you take away…let’s say 12 drops from that number….(1 for each game that’s been played) McNabb’s completion percentage is 62.4%. And then the pundits would say how accurate McNabb’s been this year…blah blah blah…

Drops are part of the game. Understood. Pro Bowl receivers like Braylon Edwards and Terrell Owens are usually towards the top of the lists in dropped balls. But the difference is….drumroll please…they’re good receivers. And, usually, the drops are made up for by, I don’t know, touchdowns, receptions, thousands of yards…

Things that Eagles receivers do NOT make up for.

So before someone jumps all over the Colts being among the leaders…and Peyton’s their quarterback and blah blah blah….I’d take their top 3 WRs, TE and 2 RBs over the Eagles any day of the week.

In conclusion: our sucky WRs, RBs, TEs dropping the ball hurts. Especially a team that’s 6-5-1 and “right there” for a playoff push.

And forget the effect on McNabb. That’s hard to calculate, anyway. It’s the team that suffers.

F’n Eagles

by damonmoore43 on Nov 30, 2008 6:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

wow man

bitter a bit?

i dont know but since his rookie season Adai hasnt done much i would much rather have westbrook and as for recivers jackson will do just fine. look give him time and i bet you you will ee him play alot like harrison. the only differance is he is what like 10 years younger?

by NickPampani on Nov 30, 2008 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

nick are you kidding

if i had the chance to switch reggie wayne, marvin harrison, anthony gonzalez, dallas clark, joseph addai, dominic rhodes with

desean jackson, kevin curtis, jason avant, lj smith, brian westbrook and correll buckhalter…

I’d take the Colts lineup in a SECOND.

McNabb with Wayne, Harrison and Gonzalez? C’mon man. Addai is struggling this year, but has still managed nearly 600 yards and 5 TDs.

He’s also rushed for more than 1,000 yards the last two seasons.

I disagree. but hey. one hell of a post.

by damonmoore43 on Nov 30, 2008 7:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

thnaks for the complement

but yeah they are a better line up but harrisons almost gone and i would rather have westbrook then addai. Rhodes for buck is clost to an even trade wyane is far far far better then curtis as well as clark for LJ.

by NickPampani on Nov 30, 2008 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

if you are willing to give up Westy that quick I question your Eagles fanhood.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Dec 1, 2008 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

stats are overrated

Elway won 2 superbowls. Farve has one and Warner has one. Does that not make elway the top QB on this list. Isnt this game about winning championships?

Lets keep Mcnabb and ditch Andy Reid. that is our best shot. Maybe we can lure andy away with a coupon the the old country buffett?

"I've gotto go with PSU. Ill make that pick every year till I die, and eventually it's gonna happen. Hear me now."- LL Cool J

by psuaar on Dec 1, 2008 12:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

elway won them at the end of his career….mcnabb isn’t that far into his career yet.

by eagleyosh on Dec 1, 2008 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i agree psuaar to an extent...

but i think out of elway, favre and warner…it’s almost certain to be ranked as following:

1) favre
2) elway
3) warner

just because favre, despite his penchant for INTs and “whatever” happens-type throws — he still put together an extraordinary run from like 94-98 – where he won an NFL record 3 MVPs – and that has to count for something….

but you ask yourself what could any 3 of these quarterbacks do without franchise-leading/all-pro/pro-bowl receivers and running backs?

I think if we can on one hand agree that Elway would NOT have won the Super Bowl (s) without Terrell Davis, and that Warner would NOT have won a Super Bowl without Faulk, Bruce, Holt….we should then not CONDEMN and BLAST Donovan for not having won a Super Bowl with scrubs on his team.

I don’t know, I feel like I make this point too often but nobody cares because everyone just wants to win a ring and don’t care what it takes to actually get it done.

So, unfortunately, Donovan’s legacy will be “he didn’t win a Super Bowl with the Eagles,” he didn’t know a game ended in a tie, he threw up and was 3 INTs during the Super Bowl and he let Terrell ruin him.

instead of….the Eagles best QB of all-time that was never surrounded with weapons to win the BIG DANCE.

by damonmoore43 on Dec 1, 2008 2:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs