Eagles made offers for Tony Gonzalez

When Kansas City opted not to deal tight end Tony Gonzalez, it was not for lack of offers.
The Chiefs were engaged in active talks with the Philadelphia Eagles, New York Giants, Buffalo Bills and Green Bay Packers. One team offered as much as a third-round pick; another offered a fourth-round pick; another offered a pick and a player.
But ultimately, in the end, Chiefs president Carl Peterson, could not bring himself to trade a player for whom he has a personal affection. Teams tried to pry him loose, but Peterson never could commit to dealing his Pro-Bowl, record-setting tight end.
I kid... but I can appreciate that Peterson has such personal affection for Gonzalez. I'm sure the fan base feels the same way... but as much as they may like the player was keeping him rather than sending him to the highest bidder really the best possible thing for the franchise?
Trying to put ourselves in their shoes... Let's say the Eagles were absolutely out of it this year. One win and clearly a long way away. Several teams got into a bidding war for Brian Dawkins. A great player, a fan favorite... but a guy near the end of his career. Would we say that dealing Dawk in that situation was worth it?
[Note by JasonB, 10/15/08 11:07 AM EDT ] Reset the poll to make it more clear.
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JasonB
im amazed you would actually ask that. if for keepin Dawks, all the way.
now if it were either superbowl or dawks………………..
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by anuj on
Oct 14, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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how do you respond to this poll?
the answers should probably be keep him or trade him rather than yes/no.
by eagleyosh on
Oct 14, 2008 8:58 PM EDT
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yea idk either
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by Remis on
Oct 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
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yeah. i mixed up to.
i was the first yes vote. i think the question is yes to trade, no not to. i ment to do no
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by anuj on
Oct 14, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
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At this point in his career: trade him. If we were truly in rebuilding mode like the Chiefs it’s time to let go of the memories and try and start some new ones. When Trotter left it sucked, but ultimately it’s what we had to do.
BTW, you can’t really compare that trade though because Tony is still a top tier TE and I hate to say it Dawk is not the safety he used to be.
by Joe_D on
Oct 14, 2008 9:04 PM EDT
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Is Tony G to the Cheifs what Dawk is to us??
Maybe.
But let me tell what makes the difference between the two. Tony asked for the trade. Dawk has not. If Dawk asked for a trade so he could win a SB at that point i would cut some of my emotional ties anyway.
One of the main reasons i’m so over the top about Dawk is that he’s ALWAYS been 100% Philadelphia Eagles.
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by 700 Level on
Oct 14, 2008 9:19 PM EDT
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+20, if dawkins wants to leave, then you know we’re in a rebuilding phase
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by Remis on
Oct 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
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I think they’re probably pretty comparable. Great player, been there his whole career…
by JasonB on
Oct 15, 2008 9:44 AM EDT
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Good point but....
The Eagles aren’t in a situation like the Chiefs being in KC this point in his career who would want to stay here. The Eagles still have a decent shot at making the playoffs and we all know when you get there anything can happen. The Eagles have a good QB, who is starting for KC this week I wonder? We have Westbrook, they have LJ but he’s had like one good game this season. Also our defense and special teams is overall better then KC. So of course Dawk isn’t going to ask to be traded right now as an Eagle, why would he, but on the same token why wouldn’t Tony Gonzelez ask for a trade? He has nothing going for him the next few years if he stays there.
by slandog on
Oct 15, 2008 1:17 PM EDT
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Exactly ^
TG wanted to be traded. It would’ve benefited the franchise and the player, although I’m sure they can still live with each other.
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by yomjoseki on
Oct 14, 2008 9:31 PM EDT
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I bet you Tony is FUMING mad
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by 700 Level on
Oct 14, 2008 9:41 PM EDT
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Well...
…if Peterson really had such deep, personal affection for Gonzalez then you’d think he would give the man what he wants. I love Dawkins, so if he says he wants out then you have to try to persuade him to stay, and ultimately if he says no then you let him go. I bet Tony’s not happy about this. What do the Chiefs get by keeping him?
by ajay on
Oct 14, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
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a 4-12 season
yeah!
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by anuj on
Oct 14, 2008 10:25 PM EDT
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Pererson’s a peckerhead. He’s a big reason why the Chiefs are what they are.
by BMY on
Oct 14, 2008 10:37 PM EDT
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i’d given up a 2nd rounder for sure for tg if i were andy reid/tom heckert… as much as i like bdawk, he has one more year left tops whereas tg still has 3 maybe 4 in his tanks i think.
i’m very disappointed that the eagles didn’t sweeten the deal to make the trade esp with 2 first rounders available in 2009…
by ringordietryin on
Oct 14, 2008 10:43 PM EDT
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I dont know how to vote?
I would not trade him. Ever
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by Sabonis4Ever on
Oct 15, 2008 12:07 AM EDT
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i think a better example
for this pretend situation would be, if we only had one win and we were in a re-building stage like the rams, would we give up westbrook for a chance at some better draft picks. Thats might make it a bit harder to part ways with someone like that, just like im sure it would be hard for the Chiefs fans to let go of Gonzalez
by midnitegreen on
Oct 15, 2008 2:17 AM EDT
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I wouldn’t trade either one unless they asked to be traded. If they didn’t feel that they would be around for the next competitive season and wanted out than do it. other than that no, never. Isn’t tony g only like 32? he’s probably got a few more productive years left He’s probably five years from retirement
by bula412 on
Oct 15, 2008 2:47 AM EDT
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Different altogether...
You can’t compare trading Dawk to trading TG. Right now, Tony is playing as a receiving TE and he doesn’t have anyone to throw him the ball. What’s the point in keeping him? I don’t know what else he brings to the table, but Dawk is the leader of this team and a veteran voice in the locker room. Even if he doesn’t bring what he previously did to the field, he’s a good influence on the younger guys and teaches them what it means to be an Eagle. Is that worth more than a 1st day draft pick? I think so.
by iggles on
Oct 15, 2008 7:32 AM EDT
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Interchangeable
If the Eagles were in rebuild mode with no chance of doing anthing but stink I would trade anybody on the team for the right price.
by eaglelover1 on
Oct 15, 2008 8:24 AM EDT
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you have no soul.
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by Whodie126 on
Oct 15, 2008 9:30 AM EDT
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You guys are right. that was confusing. I reset the poll.
by JasonB on
Oct 15, 2008 11:07 AM EDT
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This is a really tough one. It would stink to see Dawk playing in another uniform (but on the other hand, if the Eagles had no shot I’d love to see the guy get his ring).
If Dawk wanted to be traded, the classy thing to do would probably be to trade him.
Time's yours, Andy.
by BrianS on
Oct 15, 2008 1:26 PM EDT
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Once again the Eagles and Any Reid dropped the ball at the trade deadline. TG was available and he is worth a 3 rounder and a player, I would have given them LJ if they wanted. TG is by far better then LJ. Also they should have made a move for Roy Williams, I would have given them a 1st round pick and Reggie Brown. The Cowboys sure didn’t sit on their butts. Once again the Eagles will be looking up at the rest of the team in the NFC East, good job Andy.
by Irishmedic on
Oct 15, 2008 2:40 PM EDT
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too bad the Chiefs upped their asking price to a 2nd round pick
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by foos05 on
Oct 15, 2008 2:58 PM EDT
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…but as much as they may like the player was keeping him rather than sending him to the highest bidder really the best possible thing for the franchise?
Trying to put ourselves in their shoes… Let’s say the Eagles were absolutely out of it this year. One win and clearly a long way away. Several teams got into a bidding war for Brian Dawkins. A great player, a fan favorite… but a guy near the end of his career. Would we say that dealing Dawk in that situation was worth it?
I think there’s one more nugget here that should be mentioned. Gonzalez wanted to leave to go to a contender. In the same situation, I as GM of the Philadelphia Eagles would absolutely trade Brian Dawkins. For what he has given the Eagles over his career, he deserves as much and so does Tony Gonzalez.
Carl Peterson is the person Eagles, Giants and Bills fans should be pissed at, not their respective front offices. Carl Peterson made a deal that was selfish and not in the best interest of both the franchise or the player.
by cavortingEagle on
Oct 15, 2008 3:12 PM EDT
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+1
TG should go in to Peterson’s office, drop his drawers, climb on a chair, take a shit right on Peterson’s desk and just walk out like nothing happened
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by foos05 on
Oct 15, 2008 3:26 PM EDT
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+1
I voted keep him but if he asked for a trade I would honor that, I would even let him pick the team considering the deals were negligable enough and outside the division.
I would not give a press conference because I would be sobbing like a little bitch for about a month … WEAPON X!!!!!!!!!!!!!
huge injustice to TG, what a shame.
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by Whodie126 on
Oct 15, 2008 3:30 PM EDT
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huge injustice to TG, what a shame.
and I say this knowing full well he wanted to and could have been a giant … I still think KC owed him that, although I’m happy he is not wearing blue.
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by Whodie126 on
Oct 15, 2008 3:32 PM EDT
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