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NFL Trade deadline rumor roundup

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The NFL trade deadline is 4pm today and the rumors of possible deals are more rampant than any year I can remember. Rarely does much happen at the NFL trade deadline, but this year could mark a change.

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I'll continue to update this post as more rumors roll in.

There several reports saying that the Eagles have interest in Chiefs TE Tony Gonzalez. Those are nothing new and for now they're more or less totally unsubstantiated. There's been no reports of an offer or anything on the Eagles behalf. It has been reported that the Giants offered a 6th round pick.

Chris Mortenson told ESPN radio that the Lions are shopping WR Roy Williams and that he was told the Eagles are among the teams who could be interested. NFL Network's Adam Schefter is reporting that the Cowboys have made an offer for Williams, but the Lions have not accepted it. He says the Lions are looking for more than a 1st round pick. Good luck getting that...

KC running back Larry Johnson is reportedly also on the trade block.

[Note by JasonB, 10/14/08 3:15 PM EDT ]  ESPN radio is reporting that the Giants, Bills, and Eagles have all made offers for Tony Gonzalez. Take that for what it's worth.

[Note by JasonB, 10/14/08 3:30 PM EDT ] Most reports now seem to suggest that the Eagles aren't that interested in Roy Williams and that they're much more interested in Gonzalez. Dallas appears to be the only team still in for Roy Williams. Half hour to go.

[Note by JasonB, 10/14/08 3:34 PM EDT ] Reportedly Chiefs GM Carl Peterson said that no deals will be made today

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. – Kansas City Chiefs president Carl Peterson gave every indication that his team will not be making a deal in the final hours before the NFL trade deadline of 4 p.m. ET, Tuesday.

"No, nada, nothing, zero," Peterson said, from the fall owners meetings, when asked if he had any possible deals for some of his high-priced veterans. TE Tony Gonzalez, RB Larry Johnson and CB Patrick Surtain have all been rumored to be on the trading block for the Chiefs, who are in rebuilding mode.

[Note by JasonB, 10/14/08 4:07 PM EDT ] Latest news is that the Lions have traded WR Roy Williams to Dallas for "at least one first round pick." Tony Gonzalez will not be traded.

[Note by JasonB, 10/14/08 4:12 PM EDT ] ESPN conflicts with the Schefter report saying that Williams was traded to Dallas for two 2nd round picks. Schefter says Dallas gave up a 1st, 3rd and 6th round pick.

[Note by JasonB, 10/14/08 4:21 PM EDT ] The Dallas Morning News is reporting that Dallas surrendered a first, a third, and a sixth for Williams. Wow... for an oft injured, underperfoming WR with an expiring contract? Williams has only played 16 games once.

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we need

tight ends who don’t fumble, can block, and don’t cut short their routes.

i say give’em a 4th round and a 6th round conditional.

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by psudrozz on Oct 14, 2008 2:46 PM EDT   0 recs

We never seem to get players when we've reportedly made an offer

Honestly… do we really want Tony G?

I think we do… i’m just posing an honest question

i’m not sure i’d give up lito for him

"Watching Big Ben kiss the canvas nine times in Philly was like watching a guy fighting a school of sharks -- with everyone rooting for the sharks."

by 700 Level on Oct 14, 2008 3:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Well he’s a hell of a player at a position of weakness for us.

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by JasonB on Oct 14, 2008 3:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Thats cause we wouldn’t, and I wouldn’t. Lito is worth a second at least.

by Clyde Simmons on Oct 14, 2008 3:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I partially agree with you,

Even if we get Tony, is he gonna get the ball thrown to him. The Eagles have been using the TE more as a blocker this year. They keep running those short motions leaving TE to help out the guards. I can’t see Tony assuming that role.

LJ numbers are partially bad because he is being called to block more than catch…Even though he still SUCKS.

DALLAS SUCKS!!!

by yophillybro on Oct 14, 2008 3:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Also, I wouldn't give up 1 first rounder for Roy Williams

Right about now, he is worth a 2nd rounder at best. I wouldn’t even trade Lito straight up. Roy never has produced, can we expect him to do so here? We spread the more than Detroit, He is not Anquan Boldin or Larry Fitzgerald. He is not woth a first rounder.

DALLAS SUCKS!!!

by yophillybro on Oct 14, 2008 3:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah but the question is are we tailoring our play calling because LJ has stone hands and can’t catch a cold?

"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys - there's no better feeling than to have that done." - Matt Stairs 10/13/08

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by foos05 on Oct 14, 2008 3:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I have to assume that if you have a future hall of fame TE, they’d find a way to get him the ball a lot.

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by JasonB on Oct 14, 2008 3:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Tony has further to go to catch DMacs ankle passes … I agree if you have a guy like TG out there you will get him the ball.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Oct 14, 2008 3:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

"Even if we get Tony, is he gonna get the ball thrown to him."

That was sort of my point

"Watching Big Ben kiss the canvas nine times in Philly was like watching a guy fighting a school of sharks -- with everyone rooting for the sharks."

by 700 Level on Oct 14, 2008 3:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Roy Williams

is not worth a first round pick or more … because he will be an unrestricted free agent after this year … no one will over pay for him … if they do that is idiotic and I hope it is not us.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Oct 14, 2008 3:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Agreed

"Watching Big Ben kiss the canvas nine times in Philly was like watching a guy fighting a school of sharks -- with everyone rooting for the sharks."

by 700 Level on Oct 14, 2008 3:45 PM EDT   0 recs

I would believe that story alot more if it wasn’t from Yahoo

by Clyde Simmons on Oct 14, 2008 3:46 PM EDT   0 recs

It’s now 4:00 PM EST. Do you know where your players are at???

"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys - there's no better feeling than to have that done." - Matt Stairs 10/13/08

Gold... Pure Gold...

by foos05 on Oct 14, 2008 4:01 PM EDT   0 recs

haha

all they are talking about on ESPN is Adam Jones

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Oct 14, 2008 4:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

So NOTHING happened?

Nobody got traded at the deadline?

"Watching Big Ben kiss the canvas nine times in Philly was like watching a guy fighting a school of sharks -- with everyone rooting for the sharks."

by 700 Level on Oct 14, 2008 4:06 PM EDT   0 recs

this is very unfortunate ...

but Dallas often over pays … remember 2 number 1s for Joey “Galloping” Galloway

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Oct 14, 2008 4:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

you would think that we should have no problem at all with this, having 3 pro bowl caliber corners but based on the monday nighter, idk…

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by Remis on Oct 14, 2008 4:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

post a link to this move? everything I found is just speculation. Nothing solid has been posted about anything. ESPN actually says that the cowboys want to negotiate a deal with Roy before they trade…isnt that hard to do at 4:15 the day of the deadline?

by Clyde Simmons on Oct 14, 2008 4:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow, why dont they throw in the kitchen sink.

by Clyde Simmons on Oct 14, 2008 4:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This move actually amuses me. TO is no longer the biggest “star” on the team.

by Clyde Simmons on Oct 14, 2008 4:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dammit. Good move for them.

Time's yours, Andy.

by BrianS on Oct 14, 2008 4:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

only if they can lock him up to a long term deal and fast … he is unrestricted free agent after this year.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Oct 14, 2008 4:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Here’s hoping his agent is Drew Rosenhaus.

Time's yours, Andy.

by BrianS on Oct 14, 2008 4:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

http://www.libertyballers.com

by Remis on Oct 14, 2008 4:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Bugzy is irritated cowboys made a deal but the birds did no such thing

by Bugzy on Oct 14, 2008 4:17 PM EDT   0 recs

i was teased at the notion on tony gonzzalez…run that 2 te offense…it would be a beatiful thing/dmac would certainly be happy

by Bugzy on Oct 14, 2008 4:18 PM EDT   0 recs

NFL Live just confirmed

1st, 3rd and 6th

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Oct 14, 2008 4:26 PM EDT   0 recs

haha, the Boys got ripped off. That is a good thing.

Roy has always had good receivers around him, he is just a physical specimen, but very inconsistant.

DALLAS SUCKS!!!

by yophillybro on Oct 14, 2008 4:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well we didn’t pick up anyone but i just got a TXT from the website that we drop hunt infavor of a LB/special teams player Tracy White

by 0sirys on Oct 14, 2008 4:31 PM EDT   0 recs

woooow we should’ve kept mcdougle lol

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by Remis on Oct 14, 2008 4:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I just check McDougle stats, he is a bust for NY,

he only has 2 tackle all year.

DALLAS SUCKS!!!

by yophillybro on Oct 14, 2008 4:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow

Too bad. Tony Hunt hasn’t shown us much, but I still would have rather someone else (cough cough Schoebel cough cough) get cut for a special teamer.

Time's yours, Andy.

by BrianS on Oct 14, 2008 4:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

confirmed

Happy Trails Tony Hunt I mean is this really the Birds big splash???

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Oct 14, 2008 4:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not Happy

Anyone else concerned that this is a good deal for Dallas? Yes they are giving up a ton but they have top pretty good WRs now…you couldn’t say that yesterday. And yes, Williams is under-performing but he hasn’t exactly played with the best quarterbacks.

by ajay on Oct 14, 2008 4:38 PM EDT   0 recs

Okay wait

I thought the Hunt thing was a joke. Did this guy even get a chance to play RB?

by ajay on Oct 14, 2008 4:39 PM EDT   0 recs

I’m glad the Cowboys got Williams. There’s a better chance of them imploding than him improving their team, and they’re completely fucked for draft picks next year.

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by yomjoseki on Oct 14, 2008 4:42 PM EDT   0 recs

I'm not sure

I feel like the Eagles FO balked here … but I’m not sure how upset I am … I guess I’m indifferent now …

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Oct 14, 2008 4:46 PM EDT   0 recs

That's exactly how I feel

And it’s not a good feeling.

by ajay on Oct 14, 2008 4:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

WE SAY THAT EVERYTIME THOUGH

"Watching Big Ben kiss the canvas nine times in Philly was like watching a guy fighting a school of sharks -- with everyone rooting for the sharks."

by 700 Level on Oct 14, 2008 4:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The big move this team made was to cut Hunt and acquire fucking Tracy White. We’re 3-3. Dallas gets Roy Williams. Who got better and who stayed the same?

by ajay on Oct 14, 2008 4:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I disagree that Dallas got that much better

They had enough weapons already to dominate.
If this were the college game I’d think it was a good move/

However, in the NFL you can actually overstack your roster to the point that there isnt enough football to go around… then people like TO complain, and it all just falls apart.

Its eaxctly what i think happens here.

"Watching Big Ben kiss the canvas nine times in Philly was like watching a guy fighting a school of sharks -- with everyone rooting for the sharks."

by 700 Level on Oct 14, 2008 5:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree

we can’t expect TO to take a backseat to Williams … kind of like Harrison with Wayne … or even Johnson to Houshmenzadeh

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Oct 14, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Looking at the Cowboy’s roster, it’s really hard to understand why they would do this.
Patrick Crayton is playing lights out, TO is on the roster, Jason Witten is arguably the best TE in the game and Miles Austin seems to be able to get deep. How does Roy Williams fit in? He’s the third WO? Do you abandon 2 tight end sets?
What about Marion Barber?
Maybe it is still Christmas after all…

by cavortingEagle on Oct 14, 2008 5:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think Austin is hurt … and just a guess … but maybe they are preparing for the meltdown of TO that everyone knows is imminent, even more so now.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Oct 14, 2008 5:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, and I don’t know that Crayton is really playing all that well. I guess you could say that Jerry has a ‘win now’ mentality, because if they don’t everyone will be talking about how screwed they are in next years draft!

by LeonSA on Oct 14, 2008 5:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The stats guys over at football outsiders actually rank Crayton as the Cryboys most productive WR…
They also have Hank Baskett and Greg Lewis ahead of TO and Reggie and Desean ahead of Roy Williams…

by cavortingEagle on Oct 14, 2008 5:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

linky linky

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Oct 14, 2008 5:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks Buddy

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Oct 14, 2008 6:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well – I guess, but a 1, 3, 6 for a #2 or #3 WR is just silly.
Actually, there’s only 1 Wideout in the game I’d give up that much for…
Jerry Rice back in his prime.

by cavortingEagle on Oct 14, 2008 5:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Amen to that

I mean the Boys got raped …

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Oct 14, 2008 5:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Look, there’s no way in hell they were going to win against Jerry Jones in a overpay for a shitty WR contest. I just don’t agree with their decision to not pursue Gonzalez.

Destroyer of Subject Lines :3™

by yomjoseki on Oct 14, 2008 4:49 PM EDT   0 recs

In regards to Williams, Dallas clearly thought they needed him more than the Eagles though they did. I like(d) Roy Williams, but I think to match Dallas’ offer with DeSean Jackson playing so well, Baskett starting to emerge as a legit guy, and Brown and Curtis hopefully coming back after the bye, would have been foolish.

It’d be horrendously stupid if they did so and didn’t re-sign him.

If Dallas doesn’t re-sign him, it’s a shortsighted move, but they perceived that they had less depth at WR (especially now w/Austin hurt) than the Eagles did, it makes more sense for them as a “save the season” type move. Despite their better record, there’s probably no small measure of panic going on at Cowboys HQ right now.

Time's yours, Andy.

by BrianS on Oct 14, 2008 5:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1 I think

This move seemed desperate to me on behalf of the Cowboys … but I think the Eagles should have made a strong move for TG.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Oct 14, 2008 5:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If you are Roy Williams

You can almost name your price in the off season. Figuring that Dallas WILL NOT win the SB this year, that is WAYYYYYY too much to give away for one season. therefore they’re likely to try to pay more to keep the investment in house

IMO, this is worse than the joey galloway move. They stand to lose WAY more

"Watching Big Ben kiss the canvas nine times in Philly was like watching a guy fighting a school of sharks -- with everyone rooting for the sharks."

by 700 Level on Oct 14, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

supposedly Dallas signed him till 2013. Which makes this not a terrible deal if Roy plays well. I don’t think it helps them as much RIGHT NOW as adding a CB would have…their offense isn’t the problem.

Time's yours, Andy.

by BrianS on Oct 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

5-year deal for Roy
The Cowboys and Williams agreed to a five-year extension worth $45 million and including more than $20 million guaranteed, a source told ESPN’s Chris Mortensen. The contract language is still being finalized.

Time's yours, Andy.

by BrianS on Oct 15, 2008 12:07 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

THERE IS NO WAY TO IS A MODEL CITIZEN NOW

it’s over

"Watching Big Ben kiss the canvas nine times in Philly was like watching a guy fighting a school of sharks -- with everyone rooting for the sharks."

by 700 Level on Oct 14, 2008 4:50 PM EDT   0 recs

Lol, all the way 700!

by LeonSA on Oct 14, 2008 5:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

PFT is reporting the Skins signed Shaun Alexander.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Oct 14, 2008 5:10 PM EDT   0 recs

Yeah, he probably got the job because of Zorn.

by LeonSA on Oct 14, 2008 5:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yea I actually forgot Betts hurt his knee this past weekend … must be worse than reported.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Oct 14, 2008 5:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No way we should have payed that much for Roy, good move. I would’ve loved the TG trade, I don’t think a third (or even second) round pick is too much for him. He’ll still be productive for quite a while. Hunt…well it’s true that he hasn’t shown a lot, but he probably never got a chance to. If this new guy shores up ST, then it’s good. But releasing a kid with POTENTIAL instead of someone who is clearly done (Shoebel, even Daniels?) is a bit risky. If we do need him because of injuries later on, he’s hopefully still available, like Andrew B mentioned elsewhere.

by LeonSA on Oct 14, 2008 5:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Roy Williams is pretty much going to be the answer to a trivia question.

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by yomjoseki on Oct 14, 2008 5:26 PM EDT   0 recs

What player traded in detroit lions history

is most like Herschel Walker in terms of effect on the franchises involved?

by cavortingEagle on Oct 14, 2008 5:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

wait, so what are they going to do with the jerseys having two roy williams’s

http://www.libertyballers.com

by Remis on Oct 14, 2008 5:27 PM EDT   0 recs

Call one “Horse Collar” and the other one “Injury Prone”

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by yomjoseki on Oct 14, 2008 5:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL

Time's yours, Andy.

by BrianS on Oct 14, 2008 5:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

POST OF THE YEAR

"Watching Big Ben kiss the canvas nine times in Philly was like watching a guy fighting a school of sharks -- with everyone rooting for the sharks."

by 700 Level on Oct 14, 2008 9:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

dude

as i was scrollin down, i was just waitin to post that.

"I'm embaressed of Andy Ried" - #5

by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dallas got raped on this one… See what happens when Matt Millen isn’t your GM anymore

"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys - there's no better feeling than to have that done." - Matt Stairs 10/13/08

Gold... Pure Gold...

by foos05 on Oct 14, 2008 5:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Dallas has done stupid shit like this before ...

Joey “Galloping” Galloway for 2 first rounders anyone???

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

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